Gman36 3,455 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 As a microcosm of the Rangers "entity" philosophical confusion, arguably the majority of the "staunchest" posters on this forum are also staunch dogmatic atheists. Which is confusing when you consider the fact that Rangers as a concept and culture is utterly steeped in CoS Protestantism. When these guys kids have grown up and they're the ones setting the agenda, perhaps then there will be a shift as philosophy is fully detached from the religious culture it was developed from. ayrshireranger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamibianBear 1,851 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 hours ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: A very apt selection of words. I would guarantee that those statements would be a hell of allot more applicable in Scotland if you were from a minority rather than if you were a straight white man. Given this, I really dont understand why people have a problem with a programme to try and entice people from ethnic backgrounds to come and experience Rangers. The idea that straight white men in Scotland are being oppressed is just a bit ludicrous to be honest. I agree with you but racism affects every single race (including Scottish straight white men). I don't have any issue with trying to encourage more fans in but why target people based on ethnicity, sexuality/religion or anything else? Why not just target human beings? SUrely targetting a specific race (or races/religions etc) is, in its very wording, racist/seist/etc/etc. Get the kids in regardless of who they are and encourage them. Not mant people, anywhere, can say they truely are oppressed. They Gnu and googglebot 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougie76 15,359 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 21 hours ago, shaka said: People are always coming up to me and saying why do you support Rangers it's a racist club... whatever that means! At the end of the day image matters and if Rangers are able to show itself to be a club open to all fans of all backgrounds then we'll have more fans! Sure they do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted January 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2019 You want to increase your fan base then start winning the league year after year. People want to follow winning teams it’s that simple. ger4life_1872, Goggs, sRcFoCt and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,519 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 48 minutes ago, Gman36 said: As a microcosm of the Rangers "entity" philosophical confusion, arguably the majority of the "staunchest" posters on this forum are also staunch dogmatic atheists. Which is confusing when you consider the fact that Rangers as a concept and culture is utterly steeped in CoS Protestantism. When these guys kids have grown up and they're the ones setting the agenda, perhaps then there will be a shift as philosophy is fully detached from the religious culture it was developed from. wit Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman36 3,455 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jeffrey said: wit The guys who do the most shouting in here about what it means to be Rangers, also tend to do a lot of shouting on what it means to be an atheist. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Bronzy said: We're a racist support though so it should be ok I think We can have cross burnings at half time when playing at Ibrox. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sRcFoCt 7,661 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Gman36 said: No. None of us remember that as we weren't born in mid 19th century. EDIT plumbGER beat me to it So what were you watching yesterday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 34 minutes ago, sRcFoCt said: So what were you watching yesterday. You're not getting this are you? He'd have been watching Rangers participate in a football match, The Rangers who we have all grown up knowing are more than just a football club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sRcFoCt 7,661 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 46 minutes ago, plumbGER said: You're not getting this are you? He'd have been watching Rangers participate in a football match, The Rangers who we have all grown up knowing are more than just a football club. How I'm I not getting it. Did you start to support Rangers because of a stadium tour or a focus group. Na your were probably born into it like me when a football club cared more for its fans than people who in all honest probably won't spend a penny in Rangers just for a PR stunt unlike me and you and the other guy and the majority of the bears den come rain sleet or snow we're always there ready. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin 13,611 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Guard those Delhi's walls 2nd Flute 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, sRcFoCt said: How I'm I not getting it. Did you start to support Rangers because of a stadium tour or a focus group. Na your were probably born into it like me when a football club cared more for its fans than people who in all honest probably won't spend a penny in Rangers just for a PR stunt unlike me and you and the other guy and the majority of the bears den come rain speed or snow we're always there ready. That's not the point I am debating with you though, you asked if anyone can remember when a football club was just about football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sRcFoCt 7,661 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, plumbGER said: That's not the point I am debating with you though, you asked if anyone can remember when a football club was just about football. Yeah that is the point when a football club was just about football and the fans, no PR bullshit a football club playing football for its loyal base. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lidorfc 6,665 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Courtyard Bear said: You won’t reverse it by getting a handful of ethnic’s on a Stadium Tour. Until the club actively fight back against the media perception of the knuckle dragging Rangers fan that hates every cunt then nothing will change no matter how many tours you give anyone. That might be case on a broader scale, I dont know but for people that don't hold the view strongly but just have a skewed perception due to overhearing "racist Rangers" or something to that effect, you might change their mind with a simple gesture. And that's what this is, a simple gesture. If it changes a just a few peoples minds, then it's a start at least. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sRcFoCt 7,661 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, lidorfc said: That might be case on a broader scale, I dont know but for people that don't hold the view strongly but just have a skewed perception due to overhearing "racist Rangers" or something to that effect, you might change their mind with a simple gesture. And that's what this is, a simple gesture. If it changes a just a few peoples minds, then it's a start at least. It will do nothing it won't change anyone's mind Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,606 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Free Plasticine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lidorfc 6,665 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, sRcFoCt said: It will do nothing it won't change anyone's mind What is the harm in trying? Besides upsetting cunts like you? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
They Gnu 11,553 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 18 hours ago, shaka said: I already said earlier I play football every week with friends from uni and most of them support celtic. Also my Dad, uncle and sister all support them. They're always telling me that as a muslim of Pakistani background I shouldn't support Rangers because it's a racist team. Well tell them to get properly informed instead of talking shite, fucking silly cunts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sRcFoCt 7,661 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, lidorfc said: What is the harm in trying? Besides upsetting cunts like you? First of all it isn't upsetting me I just remember a time when a football club was a football club not a PR machine so that wee cunts like you can feel better about themselves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
They Gnu 11,553 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Malvern said: We can have cross burnings at half time when playing at Ibrox. Your not allowed to have fiery cross anymore, health and safety banned it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 25 minutes ago, lidorfc said: That might be case on a broader scale, I dont know but for people that don't hold the view strongly but just have a skewed perception due to overhearing "racist Rangers" or something to that effect, you might change their mind with a simple gesture. And that's what this is, a simple gesture. If it changes a just a few peoples minds, then it's a start at least. That just shows them we a great stadium then they pick up a paper and it’s Rangers fans this and Rangers fans that. They think fuck that I’m not going to go to an actual game with these idiots. sRcFoCt 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 minute ago, They Gnu said: Your not allowed to have fiery cross anymore, health and safety banned it. Spoil sports. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 If they want more ethnic minority at games maybe the whole football organisation in Scotland should ask why there is so little of them playing the game at a high level. Gypsy’s over at the Saville Dome don’t count. sRcFoCt 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lidorfc 6,665 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Courtyard Bear said: That just shows them we a great stadium then they pick up a paper and it’s Rangers fans this and Rangers fans that. They think fuck that I’m not going to go to an actual game with these idiots. On a broader scale that is probably the case, but on the small you could probably encourage some people to go to a game with this sort of gesture. That's a start man, I don't get why people are so against this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lidorfc 6,665 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, sRcFoCt said: First of all it isn't upsetting me I just remember a time when a football club was a football club not a PR machine so that wee cunts like you can feel better about themselves. Sounds like you're just living in the past mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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