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1 hour ago, Young Bob said:

Nothing new in that really. It would be far better if Jack wrote an article about how these incidents are brought to the Compliance Officers attention. Nobody seems to know this . 

 

Cmon . In this day and age . That is a superb piece by Jack . No other fuckpig in the media would have even gone this far

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Be intetesting to find out what the cited stats are from the start ofthe system being used (11/12 I think). Apparently sellic have had 2, neither for foul play (as in, a challenge). Tonev for racism and Boerrigter for a dive. Sellic have NEVER been cited for a tackle. So they say on FF anyway.

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2 hours ago, scottyscott1963 said:

Conflict of interest from day one,made sure we were going to become a target for the 3 season ticket holders from the paedo dome,who have held this position.
Until some cunt questions this situation,we're on to plums.

our club are a fucking scandal in this . Grow some balls for fuck sake JT and Dave King .

Don't and it will probably bite us up the arse before then end of the season

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1 minute ago, Inigo said:

Be intetesting to find out what the cited stats are from the start ofbthe system being used (11/12 I think). Apparently sellic hsve had 2, neither for foul play (as in, a challenge). Tonev for racism and Boerrigter for a dive. Sellic have NEVER been cited for a tackle. So they say on FF anyway.

Yes and how important were these 2 in the grand scheme of things . It's clever as fuck

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3 minutes ago, Inigo said:

Be intetesting to find out what the cited stats are from the start ofthe system being used (11/12 I think). Apparently sellic have had 2, neither for foul play (as in, a challenge). Tonev for racism and Boerrigter for a dive. Sellic have NEVER been cited for a tackle. So they say on FF anyway.

Griffiths as well for racism I'm sure.

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3 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

Griffiths as well for racism I'm sure.

Is that not the SFA (suspended) two match ban and fine relating to his Skacel song and bringing the game into disrepute? Wasn't an SPFL Compliance Officer thing IIRC. 

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10 minutes ago, eejay the dj said:

Cmon . In this day and age . That is a superb piece by Jack . No other fuckpig in the media would have even gone this far

Far from a superb piece of writing. Modern day journalists are not capable of writing anything remotely superb.

Getting back to the point, Jack would be better employed finding out why Gerrard doesnt understand this complaints procedure business. If it was me I'd start by asking Stewart Robertson how the whole system works and why he hasnt told the manager. That might be a good read rather than regugitated internet forum chat.

 

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2 hours ago, ricksen_da_best said:

Strange one from midweek was the boy from Hibs that went through Izzaguire. He was booked at the time for the challenge. But was then cited by the compliance officer for a red card.

was under the impression, that if you where carded at the time for an offence the compliance officer couldn’t do anything about it. Pretty sure this is how Brown managed to get away with it.

also these fast tracked hearings never seem to exist when it’s a celtic player involved 😂

Re fast track......We wouldn’t know.........no celtic player been cited yet 

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14 minutes ago, Young Bob said:

Far from a superb piece of writing. Modern day journalists are not capable of writing anything remotely superb.

That's why he added the caveat of "in this day and age"

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28 minutes ago, Inigo said:

Is that not the SFA (suspended) two match ban and fine relating to his Skacel song and bringing the game into disrepute? Wasn't an SPFL Compliance Officer thing IIRC. 

Think it still came via compliance channels

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/celtic/10737976/celtic-striker-Leigh-Griffiths-cited-after-singing-about-Hearts-demise-with-Hibs-fans.html&ved=2ahUKEwjr48z14bPgAhUCSRUIHYcgCY4QFjAEegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw2_0RmYOsqUFDd4rziajUm8

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3 hours ago, TEFTONG said:

I'm guessing using this wee Fact would have given the article a "whataboutery" feel to it..??

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Is that accurate? FFS the constsbulary aren't doing a very good job of the "stop 10 in a row campaign"!

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2 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

I stand corrected. Twice on the pitch, never for a challenge (as far as I can tell). 

Someone'll collate the full stats re players being cited eventually. Will make interesting reading. 

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24 minutes ago, Young Bob said:

Far from a superb piece of writing. Modern day journalists are not capable of writing anything remotely superb.

Getting back to the point, Jack would be better employed finding out why Gerrard doesnt understand this complaints procedure business. If it was me I'd start by asking Stewart Robertson how the whole system works and why he hasnt told the manager. That might be a good read rather than regugitated internet forum chat.

 

Regarding your point ive underlined there, there are a large number of fans don't read forums. We are quite an engaged and mobilised part of the fanbase. There are still quite a large number of fans who still get their football spoonfed to them through a paper. 

This type of article can reach those people, and that's surely a good thing. Also good there's a balanced report out there. We all moan there aren't enough of those!

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3 minutes ago, Negri's lovechild said:

Regarding your point ive underlined there, there are a large number of fans don't read forums. We are quite an engaged and mobilised part of the fanbase. There are still quite a large number of fans who still get their football spoonfed to them through a paper. 

This type of article can reach those people, and that's surely a good thing. Also good there's a balanced report out there. We all moan there aren't enough of those!

Fair point.

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18 minutes ago, Negri's lovechild said:

Regarding your point ive underlined there, there are a large number of fans don't read forums. We are quite an engaged and mobilised part of the fanbase. There are still quite a large number of fans who still get their football spoonfed to them through a paper. 

This type of article can reach those people, and that's surely a good thing. Also good there's a balanced report out there. We all moan there aren't enough of those!

Not according to the comments section. Biased against the scum, only printed due to Rangers now suffering, author a Rangers man etc etc.

Typically ignoring the article content and adopting the victim line of debate as usual.  😁

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1 minute ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

Not according to the comments section. Biased against the scum, only printed due to Rangers now suffering, author a Rangers man etc etc.

Typically ignoring the article content and adopting the victim line of debate as usual.  😁

They are always straight into the comments sections with the deflectors on full. They are past masters at it. The guy will be getting some amount of stick. 

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44 minutes ago, Young Bob said:

Far from a superb piece of writing. Modern day journalists are not capable of writing anything remotely superb.

Getting back to the point, Jack would be better employed finding out why Gerrard doesnt understand this complaints procedure business. If it was me I'd start by asking Stewart Robertson how the whole system works and why he hasnt told the manager. That might be a good read rather than regugitated internet forum chat.

 

Interesting read 🤔

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4 hours ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

Chris Jack: Is it time to reassess the role of the Compliance Officer in Scottish football? By Christopher Jack

 IT is eight years since the Scottish FA introduced the role of Compliance Officer as part of changes to its disciplinary procedures. Now, it may be time to get back to the drawing board. When Clare Whyte, the latest incumbent to hold the post following the tenures of Vincent Lunny and Tony McGlennan, is talked about as prominently as she has been at times this season then there is a problem with the system.

The CO position is a thankless task and no matter what decisions are reached on any case that is put forward, there will always be a party involved that are left angry and upset.

Accusations of bias and conspiracies can never be proven and remain the barb of choice of supporters online but real concerns and questions over the protocols can’t be overlooked. It is not just fans that are quickly losing faith with the SFA and those that implement its rulebook and there seems to be a growing feeling within the game that the current way of doing things isn’t fit for purpose.

It was Lunny that played down the talk of ‘trial by Sportscene’ four years ago now but events this season have done nothing to dispel fears over how incidents are raised and dealt with.

Matches that are live on television – like Rangers’ win over Aberdeen at Pittodrie was – automatically generate more public debate and there is greater scope for moments in those games to create headlines, and subsequently be raised as disciplinary matters.

Controversies in others – like celtic’s victory at home to Hibernian – don’t get the same attention, though, and challenges such as the one Scott Brown made on Mark Milligan go unnoticed because it remained on the cutting room floor. It is unfathomable how the Compliance Officer can take no further action against Jozo Simunovic for his appalling elbow on Oli Shaw but Darnell Johnson, whose tackle on Emilio Izaguirre was dealt with at the time as he received a yellow card, now faces a hearing in an attempt to avoid a two-game suspension.

Gers keeper Allan McGregor has the same battle to fight this week but there was no citing of Lewis Ferguson for his retaliation towards the 36-year-old later in the match. For the record, it is understandable why Bobby Madden sent Alfredo Morelos off and why the appeal was rejected. Likewise, it was no surprise that McGregor was cited. It is the process and the lack of clarity and consistency around it that is the issue, however. Just when players, punters and pundits think they have it sussed, a situation comes about that seemingly defies logic and goes against the precedents.

Now, another incident has been thrown into the mix from the weekend. At Rugby Park, Alan Power was booked for a high foot that caught Ryan Jack in the face. It was a nasty incident and one that could have been far more serious.

Steven Gerrard refused to be drawn too much on it post-match, but Rangers will keep an interested eye on the actions of the Compliance Officer in the coming days. Once that drama has subsided, another will almost certainly follow sooner rather than later and the cycle will start all over again. It is already becoming tedious.

Scottish football can’t get itself into the situation where matches are being re-refereed the morning after the night before. That isn’t good for the game. If a referee sees an incident, he deals with it and that is the end of it. If he misses it, these things happen and that’s life. No two moments are the same but it is the lack of consistency that will lead to the whataboutery. Once faith in the system is eroded, the SFA have a real problem.

There should still be a route for players to go down if they feel they have been harshly dealt with and an appeal avenue has to stay in place for red card decisions. But the status quo of some issues being highlighted more than others and some being dealt with differently is causing more problems than it is solving. There seems little consistency in the way that cases are brought and handled. A panel at Hampden shouldn’t have more power than the man in the middle. The referee’s word used to be final, so let’s make that the case once again.

Nothing more than a page filler.

If we must have a CO, then all clubs should vote for their choice from a list of candidates put forward for the role.

The CO should have no connection with any club in Scotland, and therefore should ideally not come from, or be based in the country.

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We are top of the obsession league....no surprise there.

 

They obsess and analyse every single incident involving our players like  a demented deranged dog pawing repeatedly at an imagined  mark on the pavement.Even in live media commentaries  they squeal with excitement ..as Walker did at the McGregor incident with Ferguson.

 

 

 

 

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24 minutes ago, doc holliday said:

We are top of the obsession league....no surprise there.

 

They obsess and analyse every single incident involving our players like  a demented deranged dog pawing repeatedly at an imagined  mark on the pavement.Even in live media commentaries  they squeal with excitement ..as Walker did at the McGregor incident with Ferguson.

 

 

 

 

Speaking of Walker.

Just read an interview where he can't understand why Gerrard  wants power cited. 

"I have no idea why Steven Gerrard wants Alan Power to be cited for that as Kilmarnock’s next game is against celtic.

"Why would you want one of the more important, more influencial players, why would you want him to miss a game against your rivals?

So we should in Walker's world just let him away with it. 

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10 minutes ago, BlueKnight87 said:

Speaking of Walker.

Just read an interview where he can't understand why Gerrard  wants power cited. 

"I have no idea why Steven Gerrard wants Alan Power to be cited for that as Kilmarnock’s next game is against celtic.

"Why would you want one of the more important, more influencial players, why would you want him to miss a game against your rivals?

So we should in Walker's world just let him away with it. 

He has no idea why Gerrard, having seen 2 of his players fall foul to the Compliance Officer retrospective action in the last week, would want a player who kicked Ryan Jack in the face to be similarly held to account.

Is he really this fucking thick? Rhetorical.

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33 minutes ago, BlueKnight87 said:

Speaking of Walker.

Just read an interview where he can't understand why Gerrard  wants power cited. 

"I have no idea why Steven Gerrard wants Alan Power to be cited for that as Kilmarnock’s next game is against celtic.

"Why would you want one of the more important, more influencial players, why would you want him to miss a game against your rivals?

So we should in Walker's world just let him away with it. 

 

20 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

He has no idea why Gerrard, having seen 2 of his players fall foul to the Compliance Officer retrospective action in the last week, would want a player who kicked Ryan Jack in the face to be similarly held to account.

Is he really this fucking thick? Rhetorical.

Why the clamour from every other bastard to get Morelos banned when we had a dodgy cup tie at Rugby Park? 

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1 hour ago, BlueKnight87 said:

Speaking of Walker.

Just read an interview where he can't understand why Gerrard  wants power cited. 

"I have no idea why Steven Gerrard wants Alan Power to be cited for that as Kilmarnock’s next game is against celtic.

"Why would you want one of the more important, more influencial players, why would you want him to miss a game against your rivals?

So we should in Walker's world just let him away with it. 

Maybe cos he thinks all players should be subject to the same scrutiny and punishment as ours.

Just shows walker is too blinkered to look at the bigger picture and is looking to only call out cheats when it's advantageous to do so (or not)!!

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