Popular Post SeparateEntityMyArse 53,613 Posted February 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2019 Was a bit fucked off the thought of describing Morelos conduct as "dark side" but he's not said that it's click bait. I reckon Jig pretty much nails it. ========================== Lee McCulloch: Alfredo Morelos has time to work on his dark side - Steven Gerrard can bring out the best By Lee McCulloch ALFREDO MORELOS’ reputation went before him and counted against him at Pittodrie last week. I don’t think there is any doubt about that. When the incident with Scott McKenna happened, you watch it for the first time and you think that he has kicked him. When you see it again, it is as if he is trying to take his leg away and there is no malice in it. He has realised what is going to happen and tries to stop it and then he gets caught in the face by McKenna. He went down holding his face to get McKenna sent off, but that was always going to happen because there was intent when he lashed out. Rangers fans feel that Morelos has been treated unfairly this season and the problem for him is that, whether it is right or wrong, he now has this reputation. That is an issue for Steven Gerrard. If he listens to what Steven is saying to him and takes on board the coaching and the chats, there is no doubt he will get a move for serious money in the future. This is where you will see Steven’s abilities as a man manager come in. It can be difficult when you have a big personality and big figure like that in a dressing room. From my own playing career, the one that stands out like that is El Hadji Diouf when he came in under Walter Smith. That was a ticking time bomb! Diouf was quite a character. His situation is different to that of Morelos but the predicament is the same for Steven as it was for Walter in terms of man management. He liked to go out and do whatever he was doing. In training, he was quite huffy but he wanted to play every game. The big thing we had at Rangers at that time was a really close-knit dressing room and you didn’t want a big personality changing that dynamic. Walter managed him tremendously. He had him in one-on-one and spoke to him in front of the rest of the players. He was a different personality to a lot of that squad but the boys helped Walter manage him as well. Now, I am sure the likes of Allan McGregor and Steven Davis will be helping Steven manage Morelos in the dressing room. The players know that they need Morelos on the pitch. So the messages don’t always come from the manager, they can come from big figures in the dressing room as well. As a manager, you don’t want to change Morelos because he is an unbelievable talent and his goal scoring record is terrific. He is strong, powerful, he works hard and he can finish. But he needs to go through a run of games of not making daft fouls and getting involved in silly incidents. Then, people might look at him differently. The danger with that is that you take the fire out of his belly and you might not get the same player, so it is a tough one for Steven to manage. If he tells him to calm down too much, he loses a bit of the player. If he lets him go, you run the risk of losing him through suspension. When Morelos is on the pitch, he is unplayable at times. So Rangers need him to be on the park as often as possible in what is left of the season. The incidents he gets involved in at times aren’t exactly heinous crimes and there is no dangerous streak to him when he is on the park. It is daft things, though. I don’t think he will be like this for the rest of his career. He is still relatively young as a player and he still has time to grow as a person and a professional. People and players mature at different rates on the football pitch. I am not saying he is immature, but he will realise that he has this reputation and he needs to stop the petulance. He is not getting sent off for elbowing people in the face or flying into lunging tackles that threaten careers. It is just petulant, and he has that in him. Steven has got to try and manage that side out of him while not taking the edge off his game. That could be a slow process. The manager said after the game at Pittodrie that Alfredo had to control his aggression if he wanted to reach the level that he thinks he can play at and prospective buyers will be looking at him in terms of his temperament and his disciplinary record. Nobody is perfect. That is a flaw that Alfredo has in his game but it can be worked out of him with the help of those round about him. He seems like the type of boy that wants to get better. He listens and he has that work ethic to improve, which he has done a lot this season. That side of the game can’t be taken out of him completely. When you are playing up front yourself, you have got to be aggressive when you have big centre-halves breathing down his neck. There is pressure on him to get goals for Rangers every single week and he has done extremely well once again this season. If he can get that petulance out of him, what a player he could become and he would then be the all-round package. https://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/17424269.lee-mcculloch-alfredo-morelos-has-time-to-work-on-his-dark-side-steven-gerrard-can-bring-out-the-best/ Gman36, 1690tamRFC, Bears r us and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Why would you be fucked off at describing it as dark arts. That’s literally what it is, I see it as a compliment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,613 Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, Siwel said: Why would you be fucked off at describing it as dark arts. That’s literally what it is, I see it as a compliment. Because for me it's not dark arts that he's being punished for. It's for being Morelos, in a Rangers jersey. Edit. Dark side is what the headline is. cascadeshrimp, Blumhoilann, JCDBigBear and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 81,992 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Steven Davis will be doing fuck all to help anyone Courtyard Bear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,426 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Really well said. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Prso's headband 35,340 Posted February 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2019 Go on a run of games without picking up silly bookings? He’s literally booked for who he is. Why are tarrier players allowed to celebrate with their fans with no booking? At the same fucking venue Morelos doesn’t leave the pitch and gets booked! His only deserved red card was the one against Aberdeen at home. I’d be willing to bet if you looked at all his yellow cards this season at least half nobody else gets booked for. In fact why is the focus on him with how many cards he picks up anyway? Shinnie is a combative player and picked up more cards than Morelos last season, he isn’t labelled a fruitcake is he? Na. See how contradictory it is? ger4life_1872, Jamie0202, cascadeshrimp and 27 others 30 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,809 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, Prso's headband said: Go on a run of games without picking up silly bookings? He’s literally booked for who he is. Why are tarrier players allowed to celebrate with their fans with no booking? At the same fucking venue Morelos doesn’t leave the pitch and gets booked! His only deserved red card was the one against Aberdeen at home. I’d be willing to bet if you looked at all his yellow cards this season at least half nobody else gets booked for. In fact why is the focus on him with how many cards he picks up anyway? Shinnie is a combative player and picked up more cards than Morelos last season, he isn’t labelled a fruitcake is he? Na. See how contradictory it is? Good post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,613 Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Prso's headband said: Go on a run of games without picking up silly bookings? He’s literally booked for who he is. Why are tarrier players allowed to celebrate with their fans with no booking? At the same fucking venue Morelos doesn’t leave the pitch and gets booked! His only deserved red card was the one against Aberdeen at home. I’d be willing to bet if you looked at all his yellow cards this season at least half nobody else gets booked for. In fact why is the focus on him with how many cards he picks up anyway? Shinnie is a combative player and picked up more cards than Morelos last season, he isn’t labelled a fruitcake is he? Na. See how contradictory it is? He's saying Morelos is getting done now based on reputation. He acknowledges we think Morelos has been unfairly treated. When he's talking about Morelos ability on the park he's right that it he can be unplayable. But he has to be on the park. His suggestion is Alfie goes on a run of games not picking up booking, he's right. You're comparing to the scum celebrating, or the Shinnie bookings but that's covered in the Alfie being treated differently. Complaining about others won't change the reputation Morelos has and the treatment he's given by refs, mcculloch is right that Morelos staying out of disciplinary limelight might. I think few would disagree, I don't, that Morelos is unfairly treated and the comparisons you give are justified. But when looking at how to make sure he continues to be unplayable Jig is right about Morelos having to address it himself because things aren't going to change in his favour otherwise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,426 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Not many people will argue he gets treated differently but he needs to stop getting involved off the ball with players. It gives us no advantage and and is giving referee's an opportunity to punish him. McEwan's Lager 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,340 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: He's saying Morelos is getting done now based on reputation. He acknowledges we think Morelos has been unfairly treated. When he's talking about Morelos ability on the park he's right that it he can be unplayable. But he has to be on the park. His suggestion is Alfie goes on a run of games not picking up booking, he's right. You're comparing to the scum celebrating, or the Shinnie bookings but that's covered in the Alfie being treated differently. Complaining about others won't change the reputation Morelos has and the treatment he's given by refs, mcculloch is right that Morelos staying out of disciplinary limelight might. I think few would disagree, I don't, that Morelos is unfairly treated and the comparisons you give are justified. But when looking at how to make sure he continues to be unplayable Jig is right about Morelos having to address it himself because things aren't going to change in his favour otherwise. Mate it’s literally getting to the point where Morelos can no so much as go in for a tackle. He got booked, wrongly again, against St Mirren at home and he had two 50/50s he pulled out of after it because he knew he’d be off because his opponent would’ve made a big drama over it, the ref knows it’s Morelos therefore he’s in the wrong etc. SeparateEntityMyArse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,613 Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jeffrey said: Not many people will argue he gets treated differently but he needs to stop getting involved off the ball with players. It gives us no advantage and and is giving referee's an opportunity to punish him. Keep doing what you always do, you'll keep getting what you always got. Rightly or in Alfies case wrongly, unless he adapts then he'll continue to get persecuted and prosecuted. As much as we are justified in comparing with leniency shown to others, contradictions etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,613 Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Prso's headband said: Mate it’s literally getting to the point where Morelos can no so much as go in for a tackle. He got booked, wrongly again, against St Mirren at home and he had two 50/50s he pulled out of after it because he knew he’d be off because his opponent would’ve made a big drama over it, the ref knows it’s Morelos therefore he’s in the wrong etc. I agree. See my post above. He's getting fucked over big time but unless we change the external influence short term (refs and compliance officer retrospective action) which we show little appetite or ability to do so then there's 2 alternatives. One we continue as things are or 2 Morelos adapts sufficiently. Its fucking bang out of order, but that's the reality of it. Prso's headband and Sweetheart 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 28 minutes ago, Prso's headband said: Go on a run of games without picking up silly bookings? He’s literally booked for who he is. Why are tarrier players allowed to celebrate with their fans with no booking? At the same fucking venue Morelos doesn’t leave the pitch and gets booked! His only deserved red card was the one against Aberdeen at home. I’d be willing to bet if you looked at all his yellow cards this season at least half nobody else gets booked for. In fact why is the focus on him with how many cards he picks up anyway? Shinnie is a combative player and picked up more cards than Morelos last season, he isn’t labelled a fruitcake is he? Na. See how contradictory it is? Have to be honest I'm sick of reading the rent a mob ex bears who offer up their opionions on all things Rangers just to appease the scum and their beggar minded bosses When I see the words " witch hunt " and clear bias then I'll show interest Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,613 Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, eejay the dj said: Have to be honest I'm sick of reading the rent a mob ex bears who offer up their opionions on all things Rangers just to appease the scum and their beggar minded bosses When I see the words " witch hunt " and clear bias then I'll show interest I actually think it's a fairly accurate and pro Morelos piece. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,340 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: I agree. See my post above. He's getting fucked over big time but unless we change the external influence short term (refs and compliance officer retrospective action) which we show little appetite or ability to do so then there's 2 alternatives. One we continue as things are or 2 Morelos adapts sufficiently. Its fucking bang out of order, but that's the reality of it. I don’t know how he can change tbh mate, what can he change? Literally never go in for a tackle or 50/50 again? That’s the way it’s going. dougie76, True Hair Bear, Negri's lovechild and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri's lovechild 13,824 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I'm in two minds about this one. It's a pretty much spot on article, and I agree that Morelos does need to cut out the petulance. He does at times have the "daft" head on, but the point is he is referreed to a different standard than most. But, he does get bookings for things that we know other players dont, and I'm not too sure that keeping your head down for a few games will change that, especially when some bookings are for celebrating ON the pitch. We have a special talent here who plays on that edge. if he dilutes that edge then we have half the player. Jamie0202 and Blumhoilann 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBOO72 4,358 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Fuck off "Jig". Cedrick, Supersonic, BridgeIsBlue and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStruthBear 125 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Good article from Lee. Wish more of our own would come out and defend us/our players in the press. Blumhoilann 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman36 3,455 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Really good article that, think mcculloch pretty much nailed it. He seems to manage to keep his head down for a few games, and folk start to forget about his "dark arts". But then it's like he feels compelled to start kicking off again and starts doing the daft stuff. It then becomes a vicious circle where he's targeted more, theres more focus, and then he gets more cards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,613 Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Prso's headband said: I don’t know how he can change tbh mate, what can he change? Literally never go in for a tackle or 50/50 again? That’s the way it’s going. There is undoubted petulance, ie the scum game kick at Browns baws. He can get involved a bit late or off the ball. That for me is the stuff. If he gets warned about looking at the defender and jumping into him after warnings then he's going to get booked. If he's going to get booked, make it a justified one rather than a needless one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman36 3,455 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: There is undoubted petulance, ie the scum game kick at Browns baws. He can get involved a bit late or off the ball. That for me is the stuff. If he gets warned about looking at the defender and jumping into him after warnings then he's going to get booked. If he's going to get booked, make it a justified one rather than a needless one. Lets face it this latest ban is probably a bit of penance for him getting away with a few sneaky boots during OF game. And cumulatively he's done enough stupid things to draw attention to himself. It's undoubtedly petty shite he's doing. It's so needless that's the frustrating thing. Get it up the opposition by being on the park and scoring goals, not getting sly digs in and getting sent off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Just now, SeparateEntityMyArse said: I actually think it's a fairly accurate and pro Morelos piece. It's obviously not a bad piece but it there's never anyone on the attack Again it's just a defensive offering for me Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Just now, SeparateEntityMyArse said: There is undoubted petulance, ie the scum game kick at Browns baws. He can get involved a bit late or off the ball. That for me is the stuff. If he gets warned about looking at the defender and jumping into him after warnings then he's going to get booked. If he's going to get booked, make it a justified one rather than a needless one. The Brown incident in The OF game happened after 3 mins Brown came from behind him and it was strategically caught on camera as I don't think Alf was aware when he was kicking for the ball what about years back when Papic was cleaned out with Stokes after 3 minutes We never heard a dicky bird after that game See I honestly think bears are now buying into this and we are now having to defend rather than go on the attack Negri's lovechild 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumhoilann 6,712 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Because for me it's not dark arts that he's being punished for. It's for being Morelos, in a Rangers jersey. Edit. Dark side is what the headline is. In todays libtard society it could be classed as racist but then again,he plays for the Rangers😊 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,613 Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, eejay the dj said: The Brown incident in The OF game happened after 3 mins Brown came from behind him and it was strategically caught on camera as I don't think Alf was aware when he was kicking for the ball what about years back when Papic was cleaned out with Stokes after 3 minutes We never heard a dicky bird after that game See I honestly think bears are now buying into this and we are now having to defend rather than go on the attack I get the comparisons, I get the contrasts in how he's treated compared to others. By refs and media. I reckon hes the most wronged player in Scotland for both things he's done for and what others do to him and get away with. But the brown one? Come on mate 😁 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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