Smile 26,600 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 22 minutes ago, Bronzy said: Worth saying that at this point last season we were 9 points behind celtic and by the time we went into the next OF game we would have only been 3 points behind if we hadn't shat it and actually won like we should have. Only because this season the filth have been poor and have fewer points this is the only reason we have got near them this season as we have been poor overall.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Just now, Cedrick said: I’ve liked him so far but it looks as though he’s giving himself 18 months of problems trying to shoehorn a player in ,that in no way fits our system or style in Defoe , if you look at all the facts before we agreed to take him , we can’t play anything other than 4-5-1 without the ball 4-3-3 with , Defoe can’t play that roll , Defoe is a penalty box through ball on the shoulder striker , our midfield play it square to a player 5 yards away all game and create nothing , our best player in the buffalo is most effective and at his best in our most comfortable system and that’s taking away when he plays in a 2 , so I ask myself why did Gerrard sign Defoe Because sadiq was a disaster and lafferty is fucking abysmal Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,606 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Jimbeamjunior said: This is the worst tarrier team since deila, we should have blown them out the water this season and guaranteed the title, their recent results showed what lacking CL money did to them, so why not lump everything in this season and match them Instead we've likely gave them another CL windfall to keep their financial advantage over us, Match them how? By spending £9m on one player? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 minute ago, BridgeIsBlue said: Match them how? By spending £9m on one player? No but by spending money this window for example on decent players, davis is a disaster in the sadiq mould so far, we should have actually bought quality that can make a difference in games like yesterday We have 3 strikers in the first team squad, one needs a partner, one is garbage, so we rely on one guy up front who is volatile at best Ivybank 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrick 8,048 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Because sadiq was a disaster and lafferty is fucking abysmal Lafferty is better at what we need and how we play than Defoe by a fucking mile , you seen that yesterday , at least he tried to work their back 4 a bit , Defoe’s done fuck all bar miss a guilt edge chance that he supposedly buries every time at rugby park in the last 2 games because we’ve played our usual most joy system and he can’t play it eejay the dj and plumbGER 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy Vandenbroucke 26,146 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Compare our points this year to last, has the outlay gerrard has spent been worth it 6 minutes ago, Smile said: Only because this season the filth have been poor and have fewer points this is the only reason we have got near them this season as we have been poor overall.. Don't have a particular opinion on it tbh, just an observation Smile 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,606 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: No but by spending money this window for example on decent players, davis is a disaster in the sadiq mould so far, we should have actually bought quality that can make a difference in games like yesterday We have 3 strikers in the first team squad, one needs a partner, one is garbage, so we rely on one guy up front who is volatile at best The January window is horrendous for buying players at the best of times. We were never going to go out and spend a shit ton of money when the markets inflated to fuck because teams don't want to sell halfway through the season. Historically we've never spent much in January, and it won't be changing anytime soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bronzy said: Don't have a particular opinion on it tbh, just an observation It's frustrating in that don't think all our players are that bad and if managed correctly we could have been leading this league. I don't think the filth is a great team probably one of their poorest teams in years. Davy Vandenbroucke, crazy bob swollenbaws and dougie76 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Cedrick said: Lafferty is better at what we need and how we play than Defoe by a fucking mile , you seen that yesterday , at least he tried to work their back 4 a bit , Defoe’s done fuck all bar miss a guilt edge chance that he supposedly buries every time at rugby park in the last 2 games because we’ve played our usual most joy system and he can’t play it Lafferty is a better lone striker than defoe aye, but he's still shite, really shite, eejay the dj 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy bob swollenbaws 1,865 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Smile said: It's frustrating in that don't think all our players are that bad and if managed correctly we could have been leading this league. Correct. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: The January window is horrendous for buying players at the best of times. We were never going to go out and spend a shit ton of money when the markets inflated to fuck because teams don't want to sell halfway through the season. Historically we've never spent much in January, and it won't be changing anytime soon. We got naismith in january, ferguson in january, weir as well, Aye its a shite time but the tarriers so far done it miles better this january, davis is a disaster (that many of us predicted) defoe isnt fitting into gerrards system, kamara is a position we don't need, polster? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovanFrontSince96 315 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Yes Gerrard has and will make mistakes but it is down to the players attitude that We are not top of the league and he can only do so much he can’t drop them all every week. We are first to have a go at other teams raising their games against us then dropping standards the next week, well we are just as culpable. Arfield was sensational against celtic, what a shift he put in and the rest of the team too, is it too much to ask them to put in that effort in every game? Why are they back to strolling about the park and sitting off average players a few weeks later, if the likes of Arfield got in the faces of other players the way he did Scott Brown we wouldn’t be drawing against St Johnstone or Dundee. Its so frustrating, the team that wins this league will be the worst in a long time and it could easily have been us, sickening. Bad Robot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, GovanFrontSince96 said: Yes Gerrard has and will make mistakes but it is down to the players attitude that We are not top of the league and he can only do so much he can’t drop them all every week. We are first to have a go at other teams raising their games against us then dropping standards the next week, well we are just as culpable. Arfield was sensational against celtic, what a shift he put in and the rest of the team too, is it too much to ask them to put in that effort in every game? Why are they back to strolling about the park and sitting off average players a few weeks later, if the likes of Arfield got in the faces of other players the way he did Scott Brown we wouldn’t be drawing against St Johnstone or Dundee. Its so frustrating, the team that wins this league will be the worst in a long time and it could easily have been us, sickening. Your first paragraph is pish given guys have played well and been dropped, then you go on to mention arfield and our draw against st johnstone when he wasnt in the matchday squad Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 18,592 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Have to laugh at all the fucking Mystic Megs here talking about how bad Davis and Defoe signings were. When we signed them we all thought they were great signings who could make a difference so lets not kid ourselves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Malkytfp1 said: Have to laugh at all the fucking Mystic Megs here talking about how bad Davis and Defoe signings were. When we signed them we all thought they were great signings who could make a difference so lets not kid ourselves. They are NOT the problem. I await your view as to why. I am in need of a laugh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovanFrontSince96 315 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Your first paragraph is pish given guys have played well and been dropped, then you go on to mention arfield and our draw against st johnstone when he wasnt in the matchday squad We have dropped plenty of points, 26 in fact, wasnt talking about just yesterday. hows it pish Gerrard has made mistakes, dropping Mcrorie at Killie being one of them, but it’s not his fault players are upping their efforts in some games and not others is it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 18,592 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said: They are NOT the problem. I await your view as to why. I am in need of a laugh. Not sure what youre actually saying here never mind my response. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, GovanFrontSince96 said: We have dropped plenty of points, 26 in fact, wasnt talking about just yesterday. hows it pish Gerrard has made mistakes, dropping Mcrorie at Killie being one of them, but it’s not his fault players are upping their efforts in some games and not others is it? Yes we've dropped 26, have a look back at how many came due to gerrard changing the starting 11 Players.not upping their efforts is harsh given they can play a blinder and still get dropped, look at katic for example Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrick 8,048 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 42 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said: Have to laugh at all the fucking Mystic Megs here talking about how bad Davis and Defoe signings were. When we signed them we all thought they were great signings who could make a difference so lets not kid ourselves. I didn’t , I thought how’s defoe going to play , we don’t play the system he needs surly he won’t drop the buffalo , then first game back after the break and our best performance of the season against celtic , he drops mcrorrie and Candias who were excellent against celtic , moves Kent and moves Artfeild into a system we hadn’t played all season away to a difficult close rival , I then thought there’s how he’s going to play we’re gonny change the full fucking team to get him in , I think I’m in the minority but I see 18 months of mayhem ahead with this signing Lord Lockin 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBufalo20 7,887 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Gerrard has great potential. But that’s not what we need to win the league. We need a tried and trusted manager who can get results not someone who is up for work experience. Yet another wasted season. Ivybank 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLYBOY50 1,638 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Smile said: It's frustrating in that don't think all our players are that bad and if managed correctly we could have been leading this league. I don't think the filth is a great team probably one of their poorest teams in years. True mate look.at how they were when our whole team was up for it against them they could not hack it. If you stand off them they will punish you but if you get in their faces they are not that good. This is the most frustrating thing for me I can't understand how we can play like that against them then how shit we have been in others. Smile 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 18,592 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, Cedrick said: I didn’t , I thought how’s defoe going to play , we don’t play the system he needs surly he won’t drop the buffalo , then first game back after the break and our best performance of the season against celtic , he drops mcrorrie and Candias who were excellent against celtic , moves Kent and moves Artfeild into a system we hadn’t played all season away to a difficult close rival , I then thought there’s how he’s going to play we’re gonny change the full fucking team to get him in , I think I’m in the minority but I see 18 months of mayhem ahead with this signing This whole Defoe not playing the lone striker deal is a bit of an enigma. He played up top on his own for Sunderland and bagged 16 goals, arguably one of his most consistent runs of matches in that time. For me the problem is our lack of creativity which heavily resorts around our lack of a number 10 or at least someone to support the striker. We simply flood the wings and punt the ball (usually hopelessly) into the box where our striker is somehow supposed to het onto it. writingranger, Bristol loyal and crazy bob swollenbaws 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,148 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 4 hours ago, ForeverAndEver said: It's not one bad result though is it Warburton Warburton Gerrard Gerrard Gerrard Gerrard Youth Gerrard Caixinha Gerrard Gerrard Gerrard Gerrard Murty 9 of the 14 players used were signed by Gerrard, those imposters were signed by him so you should aim frustration at him. Do you think we’ll get anywhere under SG? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lockin 3,909 Posted February 17, 2019 Author Share Posted February 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said: This whole Defoe not playing the lone striker deal is a bit of an enigma. He played up top on his own for Sunderland and bagged 16 goals, arguably one of his most consistent runs of matches in that time. For me the problem is our lack of creativity which heavily resorts around our lack of a number 10 or at least someone to support the striker. We simply flood the wings and punt the ball (usually hopelessly) into the box where our striker is somehow supposed to het onto it. Morelos can play without a so called number 10 Defoe can't and are you putting us on a par with Sunderland - fuck sake Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Jimbeamjunior said: We got naismith in january, ferguson in january, weir as well, Aye its a shite time but the tarriers so far done it miles better this january, davis is a disaster (that many of us predicted) defoe isnt fitting into gerrards system, kamara is a position we don't need, polster? The irony is If we had Naismith .We probably top this league and it's so true Ivybank 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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