ForeverAndEver 71,348 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Gazza2258 said: I doubt that, or they will be as well chucking it. You can't just down tools at the first hurdle FFS. I think it is because they are not getting what they want, at the moment. I’ve worded it wrongly I think. Obviously not getting safe standing and being told they’re getting BF3 but not getting it is, the silent protests will be to show how shite Ibrox is, and they’re aren’t wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza2258 478 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Jeffrey said: Kinda changed my mind about this a bit. Not really having a go at them and I agree 100% with them wanting safe standing and I agree there should be protests if that's what's required but this wasn't the night Seems to have backfired as haven't seen many people supporting what they did Should have sung for 90 minutes but still done the throwing onto the park imo I agree. I said before that I think most would back them as their current goals are for the benefit of absolutely everyone that attends games, and the team on the pitch. That can't be denied. They just need to be more mature about it and pick their moments better - support will be there if they do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,348 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Captain Hilts said: Aye, very good. So the point of the UB's protest was to prove how bad the atmosphere is without them, therefore having a negative effect on the team's performance, right? With this in mind, why did they choose the most important game of the season to make their point? I'm not saying it's their fault we lost or that there's no difference in atmosphere without them. In fact, I agree with the points they're making. But winning that game on Tuesday was more important than the future of their group. Them singing themselves for 90 minutes would not have made one bit of difference Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza2258 478 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: I’ve worded it wrongly I think. Obviously not getting safe standing and being told they’re getting BF3 but not getting it is, the silent protests will be to show how shite Ibrox is, and they’re aren’t wrong. I get that - I just think that even though those two main issues are important, in regards to Rangers doing well in each and every game we play, ie the big scheme of things, they really aren't that important. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Just now, ForeverAndEver said: Them singing themselves for 90 minutes would not have made one bit of difference Agreed but that goes against the point they're trying to make. They clearly believe the atmosphere in Ibrox spurs on the team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Shaw 30,342 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Captain Hilts said: Aye, very good. So the point of the UB's protest was to prove how bad the atmosphere is without them, therefore having a negative effect on the team's performance, right? With this in mind, why did they choose the most important game of the season to make their point? I'm not saying it's their fault we lost or that there's no difference in atmosphere without them. In fact, I agree with the points they're making. But winning that game on Tuesday was more important than the future of their group. They have chosen both home games to protest since being informed of the decision by the club. The protest ended at half time and made no difference to the teams performance second half and the atmosphere in the other three stands was still shite. The point I’m making is that the people slating the UB for their silent protest are the actual reason we need a singing section in the first place because they can’t be arsed to get up and vocally back the team. It’s a wee bit hypocritical mate. ForeverAndEver 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 13 minutes ago, Tiger Shaw said: They have chosen both home games to protest since being informed of the decision by the club. The protest ended at half time and made no difference to the teams performance second half and the atmosphere in the other three stands was still shite. The point I’m making is that the people slating the UB for their silent protest are the actual reason we need a singing section in the first place because they can’t be arsed to get up and vocally back the team. It’s a wee bit hypocritical mate. I'm not disagreeing with you that by and large the UB's are the only ones who try and create an atmosphere at Ibrox. My point is though is that if they do believe that a great atmosphere spurs the players on, and no atmosphere would have the opposite effect, why did they choose such a big game to make this point? Is that not them admitting that they wanted the game to be shite? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza2258 478 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 16 minutes ago, Tiger Shaw said: The point I’m making is that the people slating the UB for their silent protest are the actual reason we need a singing section in the first place because they can’t be arsed to get up and vocally back the team. It’s a wee bit hypocritical mate. This is not the case. Yes, the atmosphere is generally shite, but they aren't the only ones that sing, thats a fallacy. The first game they protested, I never even realised they were until near the end of the game because the Blue Order started most of the songs that game. The atmosphere was the same from where i sit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
16BlueSherbert90 19,221 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I understand the reasons for the protest. Just really wish it hadn't been Tuesday night. It saddened me deeply not hearing them till the second half. Some say they're sick of hearing the same songs etc...buy they do make the atmosphere better when they're in full flow. Question also....what happened to doing "The Bouncy"? Anyway, other fans should make up for the lack of atmosphere also. When the scaberdeen fans were singing their bile, that was time for all fans across the stadium to drown them out with our own noise. I barely heard anyone in Club Deck although some did try. "We Love to hear the boys all Roar" what has happened to this? Are we all so deflated that we can't be bothered anymore? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 81,946 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, Sweettartangirl said: I understand the reasons for the protest. Just really wish it hadn't been Tuesday night. It saddened me deeply not hearing them till the second half. Some say they're sick of hearing the same songs etc...buy they do make the atmosphere better when they're in full flow. Question also....what happened to doing "The Bouncy"? Anyway, other fans should make up for the lack of atmosphere also. When the scaberdeen fans were singing their bile, that was time for all fans across the stadium to drown them out with our own noise. I barely heard anyone in Club Deck although some did try. "We Love to hear the boys all Roar" what has happened to this? Are we all so deflated that we can't be bothered anymore? We were winning league titles and the atmosphere at a lot of games was still the same Every club in the UK has a shite home atmosphere Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,348 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, Gazza2258 said: This is not the case. Yes, the atmosphere is generally shite, but they aren't the only ones that sing, thats a fallacy. The first game they protested, I never even realised they were until near the end of the game because the Blue Order started most of the songs that game. The atmosphere was the same from where i sit. Lot of shite that mate. Kilmarnock was dreadful, and for the most part they are the only ones that sing. Tiger Shaw 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Shaw 30,342 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, Captain Hilts said: I'm not disagreeing with you that by and large the UB's are the only ones who try and create an atmosphere at Ibrox. My point is though is that if they do believe that a great atmosphere spurs the players on, and no atmosphere would have the opposite effect, why did they choose such a big game to make this point? Is that not them admitting that they wanted the game to be shite? Don’t think they intentionally chose that game, they have protested both home games since the decision by the club. No it’s not them admitting they wanted the game to be shite. They actually put a big effort into the second half to try and drive the team on. ForeverAndEver 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
docspiderman 1,220 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 To me with these protests they are coming across as spoilt brats whodo not really have much interest in the team and think they should have special treatment over the other 48000 regular fans and season ticket holders. I have read here that they wanted season ticket holders to move from their long held seats in Copland so they could move there, now BF3. Why do they want to move from where they are, is it just to be seen more on tv? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 81,946 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, docspiderman said: To me with these protests they are coming across as spoilt brats whodo not really have much interest in the team and think they should have special treatment over the other 48000 regular fans and season ticket holders. I have read here that they wanted season ticket holders to move from their long held seats in Copland so they could move there, now BF3. Why do they want to move from where they are, is it just to be seen more on tv? Being centralised in a stand makes it more likely that the entirety of the stand will feel comfortable to join in more regularly with songs Tiger Shaw 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Tiger Shaw said: Don’t think they intentionally chose that game, they have protested both home games since the decision by the club. No it’s not them admitting they wanted the game to be shite. They actually put a big effort into the second half to try and drive the team on. But they didn't feel the need to do so in the first half. Ok then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Shaw 30,342 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, docspiderman said: To me with these protests they are coming across as spoilt brats whodo not really have much interest in the team and think they should have special treatment over the other 48000 regular fans and season ticket holders. I have read here that they wanted season ticket holders to move from their long held seats in Copland so they could move there, now BF3. Why do they want to move from where they are, is it just to be seen more on tv? Not much interest in the team 🤣 Mate these lads follow home, away and abroad and are genuine passionate Rangers supporters. ForeverAndEver 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Shaw 30,342 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Captain Hilts said: But they didn't feel the need to do so in the first half. Ok then. Aye during a first half that you also sat on yer arse angry doing fuck all to back the team, in fact you done fuck all for 90 minutes. You’re being a hypocrite mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tiger Shaw said: Aye during a first half that you also sat on yer arse angry doing fuck all to back the team, in fact you done fuck all for 90 minutes. You’re being a hypocrite mate. No I'm not. I've already said that I agree that the UB's are really the only ones who make an effort to create an atmosphere, which you are conveniently ignoring to suit your tantrum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Shaw 30,342 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Just now, Captain Hilts said: No I'm not. I've already said that I agree that the UB's are really the only ones who make an effort to create an atmosphere, which you are conveniently ignoring to suit your tantrum. 🤣 ffs Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Tiger Shaw said: 🤣 ffs I'm assuming you were bouncing about and singing for the 90 minutes on Tuesday aye? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Shaw 30,342 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Captain Hilts said: I'm assuming you were bouncing about and singing for the 90 minutes on Tuesdsay aye? Nope but I’m not having a go at the UB for doing exaclty what I was doing. Come on tae fuck mate, you’re just being silly now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
16BlueSherbert90 19,221 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 25 minutes ago, .Williamson. said: We were winning league titles and the atmosphere at a lot of games was still the same Every club in the UK has a shite home atmosphere I remember it differently. I was sat in BF2 for years and it was always quite atmospheric in BF section until I changed to Club Deck(massive regret now) apart from Tuesday night there, ha:) But sure, I agree the away games are far better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Tiger Shaw said: Nope but I’m not having a go at the UB for doing exaclty what I was doing. Come on tae fuck mate, you’re just being silly now. I'm not. You're just failing to understand the point I'm trying to make about the timing of their protest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Enclosure Row N 2,820 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 25 minutes ago, Tiger Shaw said: Don’t think they intentionally chose that game, Pish mate. How can you not intentionally choose a specific game unless you turn up not knowing who the fuck you are playing against? Think first and type afterwards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Shaw 30,342 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 23 minutes ago, East Enclosure Row N said: Pish mate. How can you not intentionally choose a specific game unless you turn up not knowing who the fuck you are playing against? Think first and type afterwards. They started the protests the first home game after the decision by the club to back track and carried that on, who we were playing was irrelevant. I know you’ll struggle with understanding that though 🤣 ForeverAndEver and The Specky Forum Organiser 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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