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Can it be used as a reason for our relatively average Scottish League campaign?

Definitely a hell of alot of games for so early in the season, and with a new, young and inexperienced squad.

On the other hand, it was a huge success, and surely the players should have took great encouragement from it, and took that confidence into domestic matters?

Thoughts?

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The players can't possibly still be tired from a Europa League campaign that ended 3 months ago.

Really don't see how it's related, the performance at Ibrox in the OF was the best of the season IMO and that was after it. The players have had a winter break and a pretty light schedule since then, and the whole thing has turned to shit.

If anything it's in their minds, they might well think they're better than they are because of the Europa run.

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Many of our players have never played top level football, with the demands of Rangers, or anywhere near 40+ games per season. Plus many are on loan so don't know the club ethos or environment.

When they're good they're very fucking good. Can beat any team in the league. That they're running out of steam and are inconsistent shouldn't be a surprise. But to those it is, it seems to be a sack Gerrard stick that goes with it which is mental.

Problem is those who were deluded and expected us to win the league are the noisy lot..

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2 minutes ago, theblueoysterbar said:

The players can't possibly still be tired from a Europa League campaign that ended 3 months ago.

Really don't see how it's related, the performance at Ibrox in the OF was the best of the season IMO and that was after it. The players have had a winter break and a pretty light schedule since then, and the whole thing has turned to shit.

If anything it's in their minds, they might well think they're better than they are because of the Europa run.

Go through every player and the average number of games they've played before this season compared to this one then reflect on tiredness.

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No can't be used as an excuse.

 

A. Because players should be fit enough to cope with 2 games In 7 days.

 

B. How did a squad not used to each other manage to play better and get better results than the same team 6 months later?

 

If they can't cope with the demands then WE are signing the wrong people.

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17 minutes ago, theblueoysterbar said:

I will not. They're supposed to be professional athletes.

It's not about professionalism. It's about experience in the game, the demands of lengthy seasons. Our squad is severely lacking. To an extent, that's why we can afford the likes of Worrall and Kent.

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Just now, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

It's not about professionalism. It's about experience in the game, the demands of lengthy seasons. Our squad is severely lacking. To an extent, that's why we can afford the likes of Worrall and Kent.

Didn't mean professionalism, I meant being a professional athlete, ie paid well to be fit.

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5 minutes ago, theblueoysterbar said:

Didn't mean professionalism, I meant being a professional athlete, ie paid well to be fit.

I know what you mean.

But the demands of playing twice a week plus training is something half our first team aren't used to. It's been too long a season already. 

 

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20 minutes ago, theblueoysterbar said:

The players can't possibly still be tired from a Europa League campaign that ended 3 months ago.

Really don't see how it's related, the performance at Ibrox in the OF was the best of the season IMO and that was after it. The players have had a winter break and a pretty light schedule since then, and the whole thing has turned to shit.

If anything it's in their minds, they might well think they're better than they are because of the Europa run.

A build up of games over the course of a season causes fatigue and tiredness in players, today was the 55th game of the season to date, that includes 2 friendlies, thats a lot of games, injuries and size of our squad has seen players lile kent, candieas, tav, etc not getting roatated as much as we would like. We are a good team, they have showed that this season, as a says in another thread, gerrard deserves another transfer window to get his own players in and a crack at next season.

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41 minutes ago, theblueoysterbar said:

I will not. They're supposed to be professional athletes.

54th game of the season today.

A season & a quarter for most people.

8 games still to go.

This lot aren’t ready for that.

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41 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

Many of our players have never played top level football, with the demands of Rangers, or anywhere near 40+ games per season. Plus many are on loan so don't know the club ethos or environment.

When they're good they're very fucking good. Can beat any team in the league. That they're running out of steam and are inconsistent shouldn't be a surprise. But to those it is, it seems to be a sack Gerrard stick that goes with it which is mental.

Problem is those who were deluded and expected us to win the league are the noisy lot..

The tims got bossed about at Easter Road like they did against us and Hearts and Kilmarnock were also well worth their wins over them, we keep holding this Old Firm game as some kind of landmark occassion when the truth is only the rom the top 6 haven't beaten them at home in the League.

 

They don't panic or at least didn't under Rodgers, they lose a game they bounce back straight away, they don't dwell on shite results, we and the rest of the league do.

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Only problem with the Europa run is it gives people an opportunity to say that Gerrard is in ok manager when we went through the infamous unbeaten 11.

All it actually proved was of things yet to come as we can’t beat teams but the majority of fans are happy being unbeaten yet the draws we keep getting have hindered our season.

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1 hour ago, The Ibrox Derry said:

Can it be used as a reason for our relatively average Scottish League campaign?

Definitely a hell of alot of games for so early in the season, and with a new, young and inexperienced squad.

On the other hand, it was a huge success, and surely the players should have took great encouragement from it, and took that confidence into domestic matters?

Thoughts?

No. I can’t add much more than that.

Since when did We accept we need an excuse? Too many passively accept what we have become. 

If this level is to be expected without challenge then we really are not living up to our reputation and standards have dropped significantly 

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made good cash from the EL but half (or more)  of our players have never played so many games in one season --- some of our squad almost at 50 games already and when you are used to 10 -15 game seasons that's a helluva lot.  

Excuse - no  --- valid reason = possibly   

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The europa league helped us realise our talent, along with pumping they bead rattlers at Ibrox on the 29th. We have the capeability, just the mindset isn’t always 100%.

we all know a good few of the players ‘have it’, but only preduce it one week in 3? Is that the gaffers fault or the players? 

Lets SG build his team in the summer then judge him. He got a rotten team (going on last seasons performance) to the group stages and the beating the vermin, wait till he can get the type of squad he wants.

The mans got the right, no bullshite approach. 

FTP

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3 minutes ago, siddiqi_drinker said:

made good cash from the EL but half (or more)  of our players have never played so many games in one season --- some of our squad almost at 50 games already and when you are used to 10 -15 game seasons that's a helluva lot.  

Excuse - no  --- valid reason = possibly   

A few of us predicted this - and it’s bloody awful being proved right.

Players look fit enough getting up and down the park (Tav excepted!) and piling pressure on, but there’s no sharpness of thought and the touch that turns aimless crosses / through balls into scoring passes seems to have deserted most of them.

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52 minutes ago, ElBufalo20 said:

Only problem with the Europa run is it gives people an opportunity to say that Gerrard is in ok manager when we went through the infamous unbeaten 11.

All it actually proved was of things yet to come as we can’t beat teams but the majority of fans are happy being unbeaten yet the draws we keep getting have hindered our season.

No I think the problem with that run was that we could hold on to a lead with 10 men and then put in decent performances against teams that were at least as good as the shite we play week in week out.

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