BillySimpson 117 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Watched Betis v Barca on Sunday. In the absence of the injured Dembele and out of form Coutinho they went 4-4-2 from their normal 4-3-3. Messi and Suarez up front with a 4 player diamond shape in midfield. Busquets holding , Rakitic middle right , Arthur middle left and Vidal furthest forward . The width came from the attacking full backs. One of their best performances in a long time in a 1- 4 win. We have the players to try this 4-4-2 shape . CoopsLaud 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillySimpson 117 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 4-4-2: McGregor Tav Goldson Katic Borna McCrorie Jack Kamara Arfield Defoe Morelos Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus 1,378 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 5 hours ago, Lloyd said: I think Katic has decent pace and Goldson isn’t that slow Goldson is extremely slow as it was shown on Saturday! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,089 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 hour ago, BillySimpson said: 4-4-2: McGregor Tav Goldson Katic Borna McCrorie Jack Kamara Arfield Defoe Morelos We did try this formation (Killie?). We werent good at all. Probably due to not having played it a lot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reformation Bear 6,453 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 24 minutes ago, johanhentze said: We did try this formation (Killie?). We werent good at all. Probably due to not having played it a lot. ……………..if I recall correctly it was the first game after the winter break, away from home and on an artificial pitch. All in all not exactly an ideal set of circumstances for the experiment. Whether or not we have the personnel with enough footballing nous, skill, concentration and application to make it work well is also maybe another matter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillySimpson 117 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 33 minutes ago, johanhentze said: We did try this formation (Killie?). We werent good at all. Probably due to not having played it a lot. Yes mate but we played Davis in that game which negated everthing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 6 hours ago, Reformation Bear said: Will be interested to see what Gerrard decides (a) for the next OF game and then (b) for the rest of the season. For the OF game I wonder if he will try to play an open game or whether he picks a defensively minded team and relies on counter-attack. The last thing he - or we - need is a form slump to continue and in continuing it ends up a hammering (shades of last season for example). For the remaining games after that maybe he might have another go at 2 up front and give some game time to Defoe and maybe Lafferty. Partly because the assumption is Morelos goes in summer so we need to get at least the existing strikers contributing far more and also see how well a change to 2 up front could be made to work for at least some of the games. And maybe partly to protect Morelos. As the biggest value transfer asset we have and where we rely on that money to fund some better quality players for next season maybe its becoming time to be a lot more selective about which games Morelos plays in. We would presumably want him to finish the season without being on the wrong end of the trend this season of ridiculous and malicious challenge(s) that opposition managers wave away as just being competitive but which risk causing serious injury to Morelos if one of them really connects with him. Fuck sake if we are planning on having Lafferty next season just give it up, tallest midget to hardly head a ball. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,089 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Reformation Bear said: ……………..if I recall correctly it was the first game after the winter break, away from home and on an artificial pitch. All in all not exactly an ideal set of circumstances for the experiment. Whether or not we have the personnel with enough footballing nous, skill, concentration and application to make it work well is also maybe another matter. That might be so.. but at least we did try. In my opinion.. I think a big part of our problem is that our CBs are too deep when we are attacking.. It might be a bit risky, but f your CBs are the ones spreading the passes around a bit higher up the pitch, then your midfield can push up closer to you striker and you will have more options around the box. You see this a lot with teams that face a packed full team defence. This would definitely help us in creating chances. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,089 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, BillySimpson said: Yes mate but we played Davis in that game which negated everthing. He looked lost that game, but we looked slow and out of ideas all over the pitch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillySimpson 117 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 minute ago, johanhentze said: He looked lost that game, but we looked slow and out of ideas all over the pitch. Yes mate but we played Davis , McAuley, Kent and Worral who gifted them a goal. If you are going to play this formation you need to use the correct players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy bob swollenbaws 1,865 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 We shoyld defo not play alfredo. Make him a sub. Change formation or else we will get the same shit. 352 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,089 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 minute ago, BillySimpson said: Yes mate but we played Davis , McAuley, Kent and Worral who gifted them a goal. If you are going to play this formation you need to use the correct players. What would the correct players be? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillySimpson 117 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Just now, johanhentze said: What would the correct players be? McGregor Tav Goldson Katic Borna McCrorie Jack Kamara Arfield Defoe Morelos Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,089 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Just now, BillySimpson said: McGregor Tav Goldson Katic Borna McCrorie Jack Kamara Arfield Defoe Morelos I just dont see where the creativity comes from. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillySimpson 117 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, johanhentze said: I just dont see where the creativity comes from. At the moment we have two front players in Kent and Candeais who provide few assists and score even less goals , we have to do try something different . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,089 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, BillySimpson said: At the moment we have two front players in Kent and Candeais who provide few assists and score even less goals , we have to do try something different . That might be so, but we need players to run with the ball to move defenders out of position. I just dont see your team doing that. Not that our current team does it a lot.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillySimpson 117 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, johanhentze said: I just dont see where the creativity comes from. Creativity will come from full backs and balls to Alfies feet and over the top for Defoe and to a lesser extent for Arfield to chase. Jack and Kamara would have to help out their respective full backs. I think SG is reluctant to change from 4-3-3 as he does not want to lose the midfield battle as is understandable. With this shape you will still have the battlers in midfield. The problem maybe that he is reluctant to drop a few favourites. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,581 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 McGregor Tav Katic Worrall Halliday Arfield McCrorie Jack Kent Morelos Defoe Would like to see something like this tried Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 23 minutes ago, BillySimpson said: At the moment we have two front players in Kent and Candeais who provide few assists and score even less goals , we have to do try something different . Not good enough at the moment hope after the break they come back flying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Going 3-5-2 and asking Tavernier and Barisic to supply the width would be interesting. Would get Katic a run of games as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 8 hours ago, j1mgg said: I would go for a 5-0-5 Toward the end of the Kilmarnock game it was going that way........ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 2,991 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 This is a bit out there but bear with me. I think our problem is linking midfield and attack and offering some creativity. I'd like to try Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Do we have one to swap? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbscotty12 3,560 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Fucking yes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalfollower 1,543 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 I think SG should spend this full week trying a new formation but it’s probably too late and would it really have an effect on the terrible decision making of our supposedly creative players?? I highly doubt it. If as we’ve seen away at killie the players can’t really adapt then parkhead with a new formation would be warburtonesque. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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