glasgow argyle 1,093 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 I haven't read thread through. I believe some progress has been made. 3 old firm games so far. 1st and our poorest I.m.o. lost 0-1. 2nd skelped them 1-0. 3rd terrible defending at both goals lost 1-2. 4th at home I expect us to win. So honours even if that's the case. But our form against the other teams that have let us down badly. It does show a lack of character & mental toughness In our current side. But we have never looked like getting a real doing against septic this season. A real class playmaker & striker should see us challenge for the title. So it's a yes for me. I believe S.G. will deliver. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backup 4,724 Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 53 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Which cold hard facts? trophyless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 14 minutes ago, backup said: trophyless. Building blocks and foundations needed over petulance and impatience 👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backup 4,724 Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 42 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Building blocks and foundations needed over petulance and impatience 👍 You asked, there is a cold hard fact...trophyless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 1 hour ago, backup said: You asked, there is a cold hard fact...trophyless. That is indeed a fact, the reason for which is understandable to those who dont demonstrate petulance and impatience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickness 4 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Gerrard needs to bring in 2/3 quality new players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 1 hour ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Building blocks and foundations needed over petulance and impatience 👍 Why can't building blocks and winning trophies happen together? Gerrard has spent more than enough that we should have been at least in a final, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,874 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 1 hour ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Building blocks and foundations needed over petulance and impatience 👍 Patience will run out if next season we win fuck all again. He has 1 more season to get it right (the majority wouldn’t even get that after a season like this one). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Why can't building blocks and winning trophies happen together? Gerrard has spent more than enough that we should have been at least in a final, Part of the progress is improving consistency, getting more quality in, and reducing the individual errors. Gerrard has commented on that and needs to make sure it happens as these factors largely cost us in the cup games against a team that has done well in countering us. To suggest teams cant be seen to have progressed unless they win silverware, as Backup suggests, is simply ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, The Godfather said: Patience will run out if next season we win fuck all again. He has 1 more season to get it right (the majority wouldn’t even get that after a season like this one). The impatient folk will become noisier, that's for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 20 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Part of the progress is improving consistency, getting more quality in, and reducing the individual errors. Gerrard has commented on that and needs to make sure it happens as these factors largely cost us in the cup games against a team that has done well in countering us. To suggest teams cant be seen to have progressed unless they win silverware, as Backup suggests, is simply ridiculous. If 8million quid and easily increasing our wage budget by quite a bit is worth what we got, i wonder if we'll have the funds to win anything, gerrard has wasted a good chunk of cash this season, ge wont get that leeway again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,874 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 21 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: The impatient folk will become noisier, that's for sure. And they will be entirely justified. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,874 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: If 8million quid and easily increasing our wage budget by quite a bit is worth what we got, i wonder if we'll have the funds to win anything, gerrard has wasted a good chunk of cash this season, ge wont get that leeway again For the money we have spent it’s an embarrassment we have not got to a domestic final or looked close to doing it. Didn’t even play the favourites in any of them either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Just now, The Godfather said: And they will be entirely justified. Maybe so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 24 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: The impatient folk will become noisier, that's for sure. Soundbites and his name has gotten him off the hook a fair bit this season, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: If 8million quid and easily increasing our wage budget by quite a bit is worth what we got, i wonder if we'll have the funds to win anything, gerrard has wasted a good chunk of cash this season, ge wont get that leeway again I'd agree that his summer signings need to be better quality but also importantly have the mentality needed to succeed here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Just now, Rangers_no1 said: Don't you know that losing to Aberdeen in both cups was not embarrassing as they finished above us the past two seasons... Lol, use that excuse for the tarriers pumping us last season when we had murty in charge and it doesn't count though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Soundbites and his name has gotten him off the hook a fair bit this season, I'm happy to discuss his failings, there have been a few. But equally folk saying theres been no progress or that he deserves bulleted the now are fuck wits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Just now, SeparateEntityMyArse said: I'd agree that his summer signings need to be better quality but also importantly have the mentality needed to succeed here. Unfortunately we probably can't afford a combination of both, probably why we are looking at the likes of soutar etc, guys that know scottish football abd have proved they can handle the roughnesa of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Just now, SeparateEntityMyArse said: I'm happy to discuss his failings, there have been a few. But equally folk saying theres been no progress or that he deserves bulleted the now are fuck wits. Genuine question, what gives him more leeway than the previous 2 managers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Unfortunately we probably can't afford a combination of both, probably why we are looking at the likes of soutar etc, guys that know scottish football abd have proved they can handle the roughnesa of it Not convinced theres anything in that but yeah that's part of the difficulties he's going to have to overcome whilst likely spending less than the scum on transfer and salaries yet again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Genuine question, what gives him more leeway than the previous 2 managers? The progress I see being made. I can see improvement so far, and believe he not only knows what's needed to improve further but will also be able to deliver success. That hasn't been there for me since before McCoist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: The progress I see being made. I can see improvement so far, and believe he not only knows what's needed to improve further but will also be able to deliver success. That hasn't been there for me since before McCoist. Surely warburton deserved a proper crack at the spfl given what he was allowed to spend was buttons The board fannied about with warburtons targets, we ended up with senderos, gerrard came in abd got 3.5mill to spend on one player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Surely warburton deserved a proper crack at the spfl given what he was allowed to spend was buttons The board fannied about with warburtons targets, we ended up with senderos, gerrard came in abd got 3.5mill to spend on one player I think he'd more to offer but his stubbornness at sticking to a particular style without the calibre of player needed was his downfall. Thought he was punted a bit soon but not particularly bothered by it now or at the time. Edit. Who cost 3.5m? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,775 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Warburton’s downfall was him trying to snake out of the club and join Nottingham Forest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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