backup 4,724 Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 5 hours ago, backup said: Progress is winning trophies, that we aren't shows that we aren't winning the crunch games (back in the day all were crunch games), we totally lack a winning mentality, a prerequisite of The Rangers. SG had better instill the winning mentality and quickly.....the honeymoon is well and truly over ! 29 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: I'd agree that his summer signings need to be better quality but also importantly have the mentality needed to succeed here. you got there in the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,752 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said: Why did you delete your post about finals? Because I decided that I couldn’t even be arsed to have a discussion about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,495 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 22 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: I think he'd more to offer but his stubbornness at sticking to a particular style without the calibre of player needed was his downfall. Thought he was punted a bit soon but not particularly bothered by it now or at the time. Edit. Who cost 3.5m? Goldson As for sticking to a particular style, gerrard has been criminal with that as well, and its cost us big time as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,615 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 20 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Goldson As for sticking to a particular style, gerrard has been criminal with that as well, and its cost us big time as well Gerrard refuted claims it was over 3m, I think he said it was 2m. Re styles, nowhere near as much as demanding centre halves run to full back position and leave a channel an armada could sail through between them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,615 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 59 minutes ago, backup said: you got there in the end. Do hurry and catch up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,495 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 1 hour ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Gerrard refuted claims it was over 3m, I think he said it was 2m. Re styles, nowhere near as much as demanding centre halves run to full back position and leave a channel an armada could sail through between them. Does it matter, gerrards style has seen us get put out of cups earlier than his predecessors managed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 18,579 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Genuine question, what gives him more leeway than the previous 2 managers? The fact that the team have been better under Gerrard than the 2 previous managers..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 18,579 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Does it matter, gerrards style has seen us get put out of cups earlier than his predecessors managed Yeah. Progres Niederkorn. That style worked well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy Vandenbroucke 26,132 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Does it matter, gerrards style has seen us get put out of cups earlier than his predecessors managed It's also seen us beat celtic in 90 minutes for the first time in god knows how long as well as getting us into the Europa League Group Stages (making us a great deal of money, I should add). His predecessor's "styles" saw us lose 4-0 in a cup semi as well as 5-1 and 5-0 in league games, not to mention being eliminated at the first hurdle in Europe against Luxembourgish part-timers. I know which style I prefer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,615 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 35 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Does it matter, gerrards style has seen us get put out of cups earlier than his predecessors managed It matters if you're complaining and quoting Gerrard is spunking 3.5 million on a player. The style that's also seen us finish higher in the league than predecessors which is more important than cups to most of us I'd imagine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,495 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 35 minutes ago, Bronzy said: It's also seen us beat celtic in 90 minutes for the first time in god knows how long as well as getting us into the Europa League Group Stages (making us a great deal of money, I should add). His predecessor's "styles" saw us lose 4-0 in a cup semi as well as 5-1 and 5-0 in league games, not to mention being eliminated at the first hurdle in Europe against Luxembourgish part-timers. I know which style I prefer. Didnt warburton beat celtic with his style? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,495 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: It matters if you're complaining and quoting Gerrard is spunking 3.5 million on a player. The style that's also seen us finish higher in the league than predecessors which is more important than cups to most of us I'd imagine. Finishing 2nd is more important than winning cups? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,495 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 37 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said: Yeah. Progres Niederkorn. That style worked well. We'll never win a euro trophy again, if someone says domestic honours or europa group stages and tarrier clean sweep in Scotland id take domestic honours every time Who'll feel worse, us seeing them win the treble again, or that mob when we got to the europa league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backup 4,724 Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 Just now, Jimbeamjunior said: Finishing 2nd is more important than winning cups? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,615 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Didnt warburton beat celtic with his style? They drew over 90 minutes but won in penalties. Under Gerrard we've now won a league game, ie a game over 90 minutes. Improvement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,615 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Finishing 2nd is more important than winning cups? No. League is more important than cups. Or is the league not more important than cups? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,615 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, backup said: Rome wasn't built in a day. This is fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy Vandenbroucke 26,132 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Didnt warburton beat celtic with his style? "It's also seen us beat celtic in 90 minutes for the first time in god knows how long" I'm not saying that what Warburton did (in that one game) wasn't an achievement, but it was against Ronnie Deila and done on penalties. Gerrard did it without the need for penalties and against Rodgers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,495 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bronzy said: "It's also seen us beat celtic in 90 minutes for the first time in god knows how long" I'm not saying that what Warburton did (in that one game) wasn't an achievement, but it was against Ronnie Deila and done on penalties. Gerrard did it without the need for penalties and against Rodgers. Warburton did it with rob kiernan, nicky law, nicky clark, cant disregard just how inferior warburtons team was compared to gerrards in December Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,495 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: They drew over 90 minutes but won in penalties. Under Gerrard we've now won a league game, ie a game over 90 minutes. Improvement. So there should be, he's spent more than warburton did by a country mile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,615 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: So there should be, he's spent more than warburton did by a country mile Good. Glad we agree there has been. But let's keep it real with the country mile aspect rather than quoting false figures👍 And tbh, you need to get over Warburton mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,495 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 14 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: No. League is more important than cups. Or is the league not more important than cups? We didnt win the league, 2nd or 3rd means fuck all between them tbh Id rather win a cup and finish 3rd than win fuck all and finish 2nd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,495 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 20 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Good. Glad we agree there has been. But let's keep it real with the country mile aspect rather than quoting false figures👍 And tbh, you need to get over Warburton mate. You dont think the difference in cost between decembers team and warburtons semifinal tean isn't a country mile? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 18,579 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 @Jimbeamjunior youre nothing but fucking negative. So what do you want? You sack Gerrard then what? Who you want brought in? If he doesnt win the league in his first year despite progress, do you sack them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,615 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 29 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: We didnt win the league, 2nd or 3rd means fuck all between them tbh Id rather win a cup and finish 3rd than win fuck all and finish 2nd I've not been talking about where we finish in any the competitions. I'm saying the league is more important than cups, and that's where we've improved. No? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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