Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 We badly need to have at least 2 of them further up the park forcing back opposing midfielders and generally pushing the game towards the opponents box, davis, Jack and aribo play far too deep and not only does it invite players on to us, meaning one slack pass puts us in trouble, but it also isolates our main striker, especially when arfield is stuck wide left or right I dont think davis and jack are too similar, id drop davis, play arfield and aribo right up the park and id actually play halliday out left, jones just hasnt clicked yet for me Look at arfields goal against the tarriers, a midfield runner going beyond the striker, we dont have that now as all 3 centre mids want to be the one playing the initial pass theredhandofNewcastle 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theclothmonster 1,707 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Our midfield looks like a defence playing the offside trap when we have the ball, so many times the last two games you could draw a straight line through them going across the park. Don't know how Gerrard expects to break teams down if this is the shape that's being drilled into them. Vanoli, Teddybear123 and HG5 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjim1690 4,534 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 What has happened to the midfield formation towards the end of last season, that was working a treat ? MillwallLoyal, hawkeye and theredhandofNewcastle 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KeyserSoze 14,531 Posted August 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, slimjim1690 said: What has happened to the midfield formation towards the end of last season, that was working a treat ? Speed that’s what was working Blumhoilann, HG5, docspiderman and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub Genius 33 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, slimjim1690 said: What has happened to the midfield formation towards the end of last season, that was working a treat ? It did rely on Kent being an out ball though, a player we don’t appear to have replaced in terms of what he brought to the team. I’d like to see Davis and Kamara in the same midfield though - I thought they complemented each other really well. It would then allow Aribo to play in the more advanced role. I’d also go with Arfield playing off Defoe and stick Jones out left to see how balanced that looks. MillwallLoyal, slimjim1690, jjbscotty12 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,820 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 I'm a fan of Kamara always have been and not just because we were poor today. BillStruthBear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, bluenoz said: I'm a fan of Kamara always have been and not just because we were poor today. Seems to play well with Davis and gives us balance Sub Genius 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,361 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Aribo and Arfield in the middle in front of Jack next week for me. Hibs will be hard to break down, those 3 are solid enough to match Hibs physically, good on the ball to outplay them and creative enough with Arfield and Aribo to beat them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbscotty12 3,560 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Jack offers fuck all in the position he’s playing in. SK Rfc 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ForeverAndEver 71,457 Posted August 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 4, 2019 Just now, jjbscotty12 said: Jack offers fuck all in the position he’s playing in. Despite being our best player the day. Teddybear123, Mr Soprano, Howsitgoing and 10 others 13 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,361 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Just now, jjbscotty12 said: Jack offers fuck all in the position he’s playing in. He’s frustrating as fuck in these types of games. Hasn’t a creative bone in his body. Blue Avenger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLYBOY50 1,638 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 We just don't seem to have the same balance going forward at one point we had three midfielders and a defender near the touchline playing tippy tappy with the ball. We need to be more direct but more worrying for me is the manager thought we played well. I thought we were slow and one paced with us giving the ball away a lot or playing the ball side to side and very wasteful in front of goal and it was boring to watch a lot of the time. Happy with the win but we need big improvements throughout the team if we are to be successful this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrup1690 1,064 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Got to play arfield,Davis and aribo against teams like killie who just defend all game. that gives us much more of a attacking threat then our midfield today even though I thought jack had a good game. what is evident is we still need a attacking player added but window closes MillwallLoyal and BILLYBOY50 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted August 4, 2019 Author Share Posted August 4, 2019 15 minutes ago, Sub Genius said: It did rely on Kent being an out ball though, a player we don’t appear to have replaced in terms of what he brought to the team. I’d like to see Davis and Kamara in the same midfield though - I thought they complemented each other really well. It would then allow Aribo to play in the more advanced role. I’d also go with Arfield playing off Defoe and stick Jones out left to see how balanced that looks. Who plays right mid lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub Genius 33 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Who plays right mid lol Davis, or Arfield, depending on your viewpoint. We played this way at the end of last season - the Xmas Tree formation - with Davis and Kamara sitting deeper and Jack getting forward, but I think Aribo looks far more suited to that role. It’s not 4-3-3, more 4-3-2-1, or if you like, 4-2-1-2-1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddybear123 215 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 hour ago, King Jela said: He’s frustrating as fuck in these types of games. Hasn’t a creative bone in his body. Imo today is exactly the type of game jack is suited to. Tough team on a plastic pitch who want to make it a scrap, he picks up a lot of loose balls, battles their shitey midfielders etc. I’d drop him for the games against smaller teams at Ibrox as, like you say, he isnt very creative. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted August 4, 2019 Author Share Posted August 4, 2019 30 minutes ago, Teddybear123 said: Imo today is exactly the type of game jack is suited to. Tough team on a plastic pitch who want to make it a scrap, he picks up a lot of loose balls, battles their shitey midfielders etc. I’d drop him for the games against smaller teams at Ibrox as, like you say, he isnt very creative. I wouldnt, he provides the centre half cover for when the defence have to cover the maurading fullbacks, Jack, aribo, arfield is my midfield 3, but we need wingers, i think the candeias sale will haunt us the now Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Davis or Jack, you can’t have both of them in the midfield. Personally I would play Jack. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbscotty12 3,560 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 hour ago, ForeverAndEver said: Despite being our best player the day. If he’s playing further forward he needs to create more and he created absolutely nothing today. Ibroxric72 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbscotty12 3,560 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: I wouldnt, he provides the centre half cover for when the defence have to cover the maurading fullbacks, Jack, aribo, arfield is my midfield 3, but we need wingers, i think the candeias sale will haunt us the now How will it haunt us? He was here for two seasons and we won nothing with him playing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddybear123 215 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: I wouldnt, he provides the centre half cover for when the defence have to cover the maurading fullbacks, Jack, aribo, arfield is my midfield 3, but we need wingers, i think the candeias sale will haunt us the now That’s a fair point re centre backs, but to be honest I’d hope that a midfield of Davis kamara/docherty and aribo would mean we can get a few goals regularaly at Ibrox and Davis being the only sitting midfielder won’t be too much of a problem. Definitely need another winger. Can’t think of a single positive thing ojo did today. Not writing him off but it’s still cause for concern judging by the last 3 games. Would like to see jones start the next game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted August 4, 2019 Author Share Posted August 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, jjbscotty12 said: How will it haunt us? He was here for two seasons and we won nothing with him playing. Because imo ojo is a different winger to candieas, jones is the same as him and isnt playing well, if you think cause he didn't win anything with us means we wont miss him, then the same can be said for morelos etc If we had candieas the now id play ojo on the left, make him and candieas play right on the touchline and stretch teams, ojo on the right cutting in, and arfield on the left cutting in narrows the game and stifles the space for others Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbscotty12 3,560 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Because imo ojo is a different winger to candieas, jones is the same as him and isnt playing well, if you think cause he didn't win anything with us means we wont miss him, then the same can be said for morelos etc If we had candieas the now id play ojo on the left, make him and candieas play right on the touchline and stretch teams, ojo on the right cutting in, and arfield on the left cutting in narrows the game and stifles the space for others Candeias was chronic last season domestically. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 When we press high up the park, we are almost unplayable. It must be hard to keep that pressure up for 90 minutes a game though. Mr Soprano 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 22 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: i think the candeias sale will haunt us the now I'm glad I am not the only one seeing this. We have missed his workrate in midfield since he left. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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