graeme_4 34,347 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 2 hours ago, They Gnu said: He breaks up the opposition play well, at Shrewsbury he proved he has a shot and he’s improving generally. Thing is once some have branded him a dud they’d rather he failed than Rangers profited from his play. Not the case at all. He just isn’t good enough. That’s the reality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
They Gnu 11,553 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 32 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: Not the case at all. He just isn’t good enough. That’s the reality. No that’s simply your opinion, mines different. I think he’ll prove his worth this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted E Bayer 484 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 I think with a run of games he could do well. He has a great engine, great strength and determination but perhaps a little short on the technical ability compared to the other midfielders we have. In turn I don’t think he’ll get the run of games he wants and needs. A definite squad player who, could and most likely will be involved over a busy season stacked with games if our European spell continues after the Polish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Dont think he will play much this season and may be loaned out by January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ready1873 3,869 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Not good enough despite his work ethic. A loan would do him well but doubt he could play for us regularly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcoastbear 1,639 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 19 hours ago, Boybluesy said: Arfield is different class from Docherty. Docherty is a trier and fair play to the boy but he's nowhere near the likes of Davis , Aribo or Arfield. How do you know unless the lad is given the opportunity to play in an advanced role as an attacking mid , I'll reserve judgement on the lad until he is given the chance . As I said Arfield has been poor in that deeper role and has been moved forward does the lad no deserve the same opportunity? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,347 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 15 hours ago, They Gnu said: No that’s simply your opinion, mines different. I think he’ll prove his worth this season. Cool. Let’s revisit in Jan when he goes out on loan to Hearts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
They Gnu 11,553 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 29 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: Cool. Let’s revisit in Jan when he goes out on loan to Hearts. Ok mate we’ll do that🤪 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoatbridgeBear 7,113 Posted August 19, 2019 Author Share Posted August 19, 2019 Gash the day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiserJon 12,392 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, CoatbridgeBear said: Gash the day Wasn't the best performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 On 17/08/2019 at 03:13, southcoastbear said: How do you know unless the lad is given the opportunity to play in an advanced role as an attacking mid , I'll reserve judgement on the lad until he is given the chance . As I said Arfield has been poor in that deeper role and has been moved forward does the lad no deserve the same opportunity? Deserve?? no one deserves anything -- he, same as Halliday and Stewart, was given a chance today which should have been grabbed with both hands and all three failed to do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philiprfc 1,799 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Didn't think he was terrible, did alright the two times he took on their defence in close quarters and should have had an assist with Stewart's chance. Didn't really do too much else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,473 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 You hear this all the time. “Boy will come good if he has a run of games”. But honestly why would you give him a run of games when he looks so poor and Davis, Aribo, and Jack are in such good form? He can come in and do a job now and again like today to get us over the line against poor opposition but he’s never going to be starting in games against celtic or in Europe unless there’s a few injuries. He’s a squad option at best and I don’t think he has the goods or the potential to be a regular starter here ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,344 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 On 16/08/2019 at 20:03, graeme_4 said: Not the case at all. He just isn’t good enough. That’s the reality. It’s the same shite people resort to when people don’t rate a player or manager. Happens with Barisic, happened with Pedro, and with Gerrard last season. Load of fucking shite argument. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 42 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: It’s the same shite resort when people don’t rate a player or manager. Happens with Barisic, happened with Pedro, and with Gerrard last season. Load of fucking shite argument. you at Butlins again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,344 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, siddiqi_drinker said: you at Butlins again Haven Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackrfc95 4,255 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Not at the level of the rest. Jack, Davis, Aribo, Kamara and now King are all ahead of him in the pecking order. Arfield probably is as well despite the fact he's been playing further up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,601 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 18 minutes ago, jackrfc95 said: Not at the level of the rest. Jack, Davis, Aribo, Kamara and now King are all ahead of him in the pecking order. Arfield probably is as well despite the fact he's been playing further up. Early days to consider King above him. He has a better CV and will hopefully prove a shrewd signing but he's a long way to go to be at the level the first 4 mentioned have hit this season (Kamara a bit hot and cold for me). He needs match sharpness obviously but Docherty offered more yesterday than King who showed none of his quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackrfc95 4,255 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Early days to consider King above him. He has a better CV and will hopefully prove a shrewd signing but he's a long way to go to be at the level the first 4 mentioned have hit this season (Kamara a bit hot and cold for me). He needs match sharpness obviously but Docherty offered more yesterday than King who showed none of his quality. I think the fact King was brought in at all is quite telling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,278 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 I’d loan him out in the SPFL. Look at what they’ve done over the years, had their young players develop in the league whilst being able to play against every team bar them and they’ve had a decent success rate in terms of first team starters, not whether they’re good enough which is another debate. I’m excited to see Middleton and McPake out on loan even though I wished McPake went to an SPFL club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,601 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, jackrfc95 said: I think the fact King was brought in at all is quite telling. Think so too and hope he does well. But he's not going to get many games in the next month to get to match sharpness, barring potentially St Mirren the scheduled games aren't ones where we'll carry folk. Might be mid September before he might get a run of games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,513 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Hasn’t been given too many chances and hasn’t really took them but you can always tell can’t you, just feels like he’s going to be way down the pecking order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 In the eyes of fans, there are some who will never be able to do anything right and there are others who can do no wrong. Then there are some who are simply just good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 His best attribute is running powerfully with the ball but he only did that once yesterday (that I can remember). Against East Fife. That's just not good enough and tbh he will be the first to accept that was a poor performance from him. His time at the club is running out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GersInCanada 7,775 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 We have a lot of choice in midfield and Docherty is down the pecking order. However this could easily be a 60+ game season so he will get chances. If he is content to be squad member and fight for a jersey then I would not send him on loan again. See no point in that. He is either good enough or he is not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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