Bigsasasfloppyhair 13,310 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 The big man is first choice for me GA1972 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpicyJelly 10 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Big Niko would run through a brick wall for Gerrard as would most of the players Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGM_72 3,630 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 He has a great physical presence but real intelligence to his defending too. Been superb since returning to the team for the last 5 or so games last season. GA1972 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 It's easy to compare Katic to Goldson and say one is better than the other, i.e. Katic has more strength, athletiscism, heading ability, the spirit of youth, whereas Goldson has the composure, the experience, an ability to read the game, and leadership qualities. Maybe best to say they complement each other and may have the potential to be a very reliable centre back combination ? siddiqi_drinker and doonald 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brackley Bluenose 4,479 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 He’s fucking outstanding, he’ll make us a lot of money when he eventually moves on but I hope that’s not for a little while yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 The lad will play at the very top before he is finished with football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,056 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Rangers_no1 said: Was a myth. He was unfairly dropped for the 1st league game away to Villarreal...the whole chop and change thing done him no favours whatsoever and it affected his form.....I hope I'm wrong but we could see something similar this season again if we win next week Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbscotty12 3,560 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Number5 said: I think he looks far better on the ball, more composed, still got a mistake in there, but overall far more confidence in him. Disagree with that, he loses possession quite often with his aimless long balls. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denton 15 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Always liked the Goldson and Katic combo. There is simply no reason to change it at the moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,450 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 He’s good. Can we stop pretending he’s better than Goldson though please, thank you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,805 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Katic is a good young player still prone to the odd error. he is getting better every week but Goldson has experience and composure the young man is yet to fully develop. I love the partnership and would rather not compare. Denton 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denton 15 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, bluenoz said: Katic is a good young player still prone to the odd error. he is getting better every week but Goldson has experience and composure the young man is yet to fully develop. I love the partnership and would rather not compare. Different styles. Katic attacks everything in the air and Goldson plays more as a sweeper. Also Katic is more error prone at this time. Young player still needing to develop. Both play very well together and no reason to change as it currently stands as far as I’m concerned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjim1690 4,534 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 There will be injuries and suspensions over the course of the season hence the signings of Helander and Edmundson, although it is fair to assume that Helander was intended as a starter, fortunately the form of Katic has probably caught Gerrard off guard but has also allowed him the time to let Helander get up to speed and not been rushed into playing him before he was ready, but he is now in the pleasant position of having a CH in Katic who is undroppable. I bet Helander must be thinking "WTF I thought I was going to be starting, here I go again ". Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwallowsHisOwnSpunk 7,798 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Denton said: Different styles. Katic attacks everything in the air and Goldson plays more as a sweeper. Also Katic is more error prone at this time. Young player still needing to develop. Both play very well together and no reason to change as it currently stands as far as I’m concerned. That’s a myth! Goldson makes just as many mistakes as Katic. Tonight for instance he messed up a few times and Katic had to bail him out. Luckily for us neither of them make that many mistakes in the grand scheme of things. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,791 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, SwallowsHisOwnSpunk said: That’s a myth! Goldson makes just as many mistakes as Katic. Tonight for instance he messed up a few times and Katic had to bail him out. Luckily for us neither of them make that many mistakes in the grand scheme of things. Thought Niko was better tonight Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiserJon 12,393 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 56 minutes ago, Rfc52 said: Thought Niko was better tonight Katic has made a big say in being one of two first picks and on this form we cannot drop him, makes me wonder why did we pay, for us, a big sum for Helander, makes no sense overall, keep Katic and Goldson but buy in a relatively big purchase in the same position and we already brought in cover?🙄😜🙄 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakbear 3,586 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 We have four very good CHs all who are pretty young for the position. Helander gets all the headlines because of the fee paid for him but Edmondson is a very handy player as well. Its a very interesting problem to have and I am not sure we have ever been so well endowed with Centre halves? It always seems to have been a position where the first choice pairing was obvious and we had one solid back up and a youth player. We have 4 very strong first team players and Gerrard has a job keeping them all happy siddiqi_drinker 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 16 hours ago, MisterC said: Big man was superb tonight, man of the match for me. Bossed it at the back, solid in the air at both ends. As was said in commentary hes come back this season looking way more assured than he was before. We have a great player in the making there, here's hoping he keeps this good form going Agreed - Flannigan did really well tonight as well as did David but Katie stood out. err Thanks to @siddiqi_drinker I would like to add that Flanagan, Davis and Katic also had good games. siddiqi_drinker 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bluepeter9 said: Agreed - Flannigan did really well tonight as well as did David but Katie stood out. Why do I get the feeling you might have been, or are, on the swally? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueteeth 2,185 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 The guy was excellent, really impressive this season. His attacking threat is definitely a welcome bonus. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrick 8,048 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 I don’t think he’s done anything different from the start of last season , started both brilliantly and was at the receiving end of the most baffling decision in world football 😂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,425 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 10 hours ago, AlCapone said: Why would he be dropped? It’ll happen eventually. Gerrard will want to get Helander in there, and he loves Goldson. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozblue 4,331 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 8 hours ago, hammer93 said: He was unfairly dropped for the 1st league game away to Villarreal...the whole chop and change thing done him no favours whatsoever and it affected his form.....I hope I'm wrong but we could see something similar this season again if we win next week Katic was subbed at half-time in the 7-1 win against Motherwell on 11th November after getting rag dolled by Bowman leading to their goal scored by Main. He wasn't even in the squad for the next 6 games against, Livingston, Hearts, Aberdeen, Dundee., Hamilton, Hibs. Then was on the bench against St. Johnstone, Hibs (where he replaced the injured Goldson on the 60th minute) celtic, and Kilmarnock. He returned to the team against Livingston and St. Mirren, than was back on the bench against Aberdeen, St. Johnstone, Hamilton, Dundee, Hibs. He returned again to the side against Kilmarnock, then dropped again against celtic and Hearts. Back in the team against Motherwell, Hearts, Aberdeen, Hibs, celtic, and released early for the final game against Kilmarnock. In Europe, Katic played every minute of our eight qualifiers for the Europa League but in the group stages was dumped to the bench against Villarreal and Rapid Vienna; brought back against Spartak Moscow in our 4-3 defeat, then wasn't even in the 18 man squad to play in the home tie to Villarreal, but was an unused sub in the final match against Rapid Vienna. I often wonder if his dropping from the Group stages games had anything to do with his loss of form that coincided with him being hooked at half-time in that 7-1 victory against Motherwell? Whether it had or not, the young kid had a massive confidence loss, so all credit to Niko for bouncing back and proving to our manager and coaching staff that he never gives up. magic8ball, hammer93 and fernando0606 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,771 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 11 hours ago, tannerall said: It's easy to compare Katic to Goldson and say one is better than the other, i.e. Katic has more strength, athletiscism, heading ability, the spirit of youth, whereas Goldson has the composure, the experience, an ability to read the game, and leadership qualities. Maybe best to say they complement each other and may have the potential to be a very reliable centre back combination ? Almost like a budget version of Vidic & Ferdinand. graeme_4 and Denton 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,771 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 If we don’t make millions of pounds further down the line for Katic then we are doing something seriously wrong. He’s every bit as good as Ajer & McKenna and we know what their respective clubs value them at. Denton 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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