eejay the dj 31,964 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 hour ago, McEwan's Lager said: Hearts and minds We are not invading Afghanistan. Place has lost its mind. Sometimes I really wonder about you 🤔 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,519 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 minute ago, eejay the dj said: Sometimes I really wonder about you 🤔 Wonder what exactly? ForeverAndEver 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterC 12,269 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 hour ago, McEwan's Lager said: Hearts and minds We are not invading Afghanistan. Place has lost its mind. I just had the thought that I'm surprised nobody has blamed Brexit for this yet You know the British club being punished by those Europeans etc etc. Shame I've retired the old fishing rod.... McEwan's Lager 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsitgoing 4,281 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 I’m finished getting upset about it, Scottish football is set up for one team, they’ll win this latest battle with the refs and their compliant officer will find ways to ban Rangers players, that’s just the way it is. We need to win with that cheating included. If Rangers was to turn around today and say they’ve bought Bury to create a Rangers Bury team in the English league and we’re finished with Scottish football, then I’d be happy. ( obviously not happening) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 17 hours ago, 10pshortof17pound said: This goes back to the St Joseph's tie - do the UEFA punishments dished out today only go back that far or have they included more recent ties - what worries me is that that's the first transgression established and if there is a similar charge pending from the game against the Danes we are looking at games getting played behind closed doors. Two clubs were punished yesterday for similar offences, us and Levski Sofia. Our game took place on July 18th. Levski's on July 11th. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 15 hours ago, MisterC said: I just had the thought that I'm surprised nobody has blamed Brexit for this yet You know the British club being punished by those Europeans etc etc. Shame I've retired the old fishing rod.... There is a post on FF...'UEFA has always been anti-British' Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMe 25,327 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 16 hours ago, MisterC said: I just had the thought that I'm surprised nobody has blamed Brexit for this yet You know the British club being punished by those Europeans etc etc. Shame I've retired the old fishing rod.... Can you delete this idiots post before it ends up all over Twitter mate. 3 hours ago, Chineseboy said: Idiot Laudrupsleftfoot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabc10000 5,061 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, The Dude said: There is a post on FF...'UEFA has always been anti-British' Yep I remember years ago the English claiming they were being victimised when they were banned from Europe for about 5 years. Nothing to do with the death and destruction left in their wake mind u Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabc10000 5,061 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, BlueMe said: Can you delete this idiots post before it ends up all over Twitter mate. No pijt deleting them now as they have been quoted a few times so the quotes I believe will stay published??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMe 25,327 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, rabc10000 said: No pijt deleting them now as they have been quoted a few times so the quotes I believe will stay published??? Admin can hide any post rabc10000 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabc10000 5,061 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, BlueMe said: Admin can hide any post Wasn't sure mate I know I've seen posts deleted or altered before but the quotes text still remains BlueMe 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterC 12,269 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 hour ago, BlueMe said: Admin can hide any post Exactly what I've done with those posts. Thanks for the heads up mate Laudrupsleftfoot, rabc10000 and BlueMe 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterC 12,269 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 hour ago, The Dude said: There is a post on FF...'UEFA has always been anti-British' I can't believe such a post would appear on that bastion of sense and reason...... The Dude 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 19 hours ago, Gascoigne8 said: Funny how this charge raises its head just now, the week that could possibly see us progress to the europa league group stages and also look to consolidate our position as genuine title challengers (celtic v hearts should be tough and gives us a chance v st mirren) then the big one next weekend. The charge is from the 18th of July and now rears its head?? Call me a cynic but i think we are getting drawn into a battle of hearts and minds, we are being painted as the bad guys while the mob from the east are embroiled in a child abuse scandle and have had multiple warnings and even scottish court cases brought against some fans (hanging orangemen). This to me is more than just coincidence and we need to tread really carefully in the next couple of weeks. I have to say a very good post I think as with most things in life timing is everything Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Where the fuck are all the 'defenders of the club' you know the groups 'who saved us' why are they so quiet --- why no comments or protests. A cynic might say because there's no money in it for them thankfully ah'm not a cynic. Corky True Legend 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabc10000 5,061 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, siddiqi_drinker said: Where the fuck are all the 'defenders of the club' you know the groups 'who saved us' why are they so quiet --- why no comments or protests. A cynic might say because there's no money in it for them thankfully ah'm not a cynic. I was just about to post and ask if the SoS had said anything in the matter siddiqi_drinker 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,374 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 On 23/08/2019 at 20:40, Gascoigne8 said: Funny how this charge raises its head just now What? The day after a Euro game where fans sang songs that we had already been warned were deemed unacceptable and ran the risk of punishment by UEFA? Stop being so paranoid. Other clubs have received far greater punishments for contravening Regulation 14. The rules may be flawed but they are the rules. We are well aware of them and have a choice: don’t break them and you won’t got penalised, OR knowingly break them and accept the consequences. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,606 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 minute ago, beararse said: What? The day after a Euro game where fans sang songs that we had already been warned were deemed unacceptable and ran the risk of punishment by UEFA? Stop being so paranoid. Other clubs have received far greater punishments for contravening Regulation 14. The rules may be flawed but they are the rules. We are well aware of them and have a choice: don’t break them and you won’t got penalised, OR knowingly break them and accept the consequences. The report was filed by a former selik employee. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,374 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 15 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: The report was filed by a former selik employee. I’m not arguing about the rights or wrongs or have knowledge of who raised what etc. Just working with hard facts. Does the singing of some of our songs open us up to the possibility of punishment? Yes. Were we made aware this would be the case? Yes. Doesn’t matter what we think TBH. The rules are the rules. I have already posted elsewhere that it can be argued that songs about Fenians aren’t sectarian and are morally acceptable. These songs are however open to interpretation, with interpretation being swayed by us also singing ‘fuck the Pope’ who is the head of the Catholic Church and as such it is a sectarian chant, therefore songs about killing Fenians is, by association, sectarian. Best way to avoid punishment is don't break the rules, that way a former celtic employee can’t report us for actually contravening the regulations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, beararse said: What? The day after a Euro game where fans sang songs that we had already been warned were deemed unacceptable and ran the risk of punishment by UEFA? Stop being so paranoid. Other clubs have received far greater punishments for contravening Regulation 14. The rules may be flawed but they are the rules. We are well aware of them and have a choice: don’t break them and you won’t got penalised, OR knowingly break them and accept the consequences. That'll be except for the club like no other! In their sectarian and so called political song sheet, along with their banners, both punishable by UEFA. We don't ask for special treatment, just a level playing field. We continue to be demonised, torn limb by limb to the point of being more toxic than nuclear waste. If you cannot see that this is a concerted campaign against us perp'd by our haters, you are niave in the extreme. To the rest of the planet we and YOU are now racist. Happy with that?! Our board chose to sit on the complaint for 5 weeks when they could have intervened and warned us off, so nothing to stop more punishments coming our way. Why would that be one could ask?! Maybe nothing more sinister than being utter cowards devoid of a spine and fucking brain cell. Sure, clean up the song sheet, but the attacks on us will not be ending any time soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 14 hours ago, siddiqi_drinker said: Where the fuck are all the 'defenders of the club' you know the groups 'who saved us' why are they so quiet --- why no comments or protests. A cynic might say because there's no money in it for them thankfully ah'm not a cynic. Protest what exactly? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, beararse said: I’m not arguing about the rights or wrongs or have knowledge of who raised what etc. Just working with hard facts. Does the singing of some of our songs open us up to the possibility of punishment? Yes. Were we made aware this would be the case? Yes. Doesn’t matter what we think TBH. The rules are the rules. I have already posted elsewhere that it can be argued that songs about Fenians aren’t sectarian and are morally acceptable. These songs are however open to interpretation, with interpretation being swayed by us also singing ‘fuck the Pope’ who is the head of the Catholic Church and is a sectarian chant, therefore songs about killing Fenians is, by association, sectarian. Best way to avoid punishment is don't break the rules, that way a former celtic employee can’t report us for actually contravening the regulations. This is not about rule breaking and sectarian singing ffs. If it were, nonce fc would have been shut down long ago. This is about undermining our very existence. Get out of the dross ffs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said: That'll be except for the club like no other! In their sectarian and so called political song sheet, along with their banners, both punishable by UEFA. We don't ask for special treatment, just a level playing field. We continue to be demonised, torn limb by limb to the point of being more toxic than nuclear waste. If you cannot see that this is a concerted campaign against us perp'd by our haters, you are niave in the extreme. To the rest of the planet we and YOU are now racist. Happy with that?! Our board chose to sit on the complaint for 5 weeks when they could have intervened and warned us off, so nothing to stop more punishments coming our way. Why would that be one could ask?! Maybe nothing more sinister than being utter cowards devoid of a spine and fucking brain cell. Sure, clean up the song sheet, but the attacks on us will not be ending any time soon. Including the UEFA disciplinary committee? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,374 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 13 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said: That'll be except for the club like no other! In their sectarian and so called political song sheet, along with their banners, both punishable by UEFA. We don't ask for special treatment, just a level playing field. We continue to be demonised, torn limb by limb to the point of being more toxic than nuclear waste. If you cannot see that this is a concerted campaign against us perp'd by our haters, you are niave in the extreme. To the rest of the planet we and YOU are now racist. Happy with that?! Our board chose to sit on the complaint for 5 weeks when they could have intervened and warned us off, so nothing to stop more punishments coming our way. Why would that be one could ask?! Maybe nothing more sinister than being utter cowards devoid of a spine and fucking brain cell. Sure, clean up the song sheet, but the attacks on us will not be ending any time soon. Mmmm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, The Dude said: Including the UEFA disciplinary committee? Firstly there is still no clarity in exactly what we done ie was it certain words or songs in their entirety? We can all make up rules and have definitions, interpretations and misinterpretations to favour one over another Secondly the committee have to act based on the observer's report. Garry two 'r's the killy taig ffs! FARE, Nil by mouth ffs! Yes we're getting a fare hearing right enough. No bias there then eh?! Then we have the whisperers and influencers and one not very far from here. As I said if it were about sectarian and political singing, nonce fc would have been closed down long ago. We don't ask for special treatment, just a level playing field. Easier for the board to go with the narrative and throw fans under a bus than do their job. Need I say more?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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