2nd UEFA Charge

[Getstiffed 8,863]

Just now, Cedrick said:

If we give them a towing on Sunday Aggadoo will be offensive, always the same , referees and songs whenever their shitting themselves, famine song was banned coz we beat them 4v2 at the piggery , the Pedro mendes goal game , that’s fact to 

And once that was banned they were wanting Penny Arcade removed.

And on and and on

[mitre_mouldmaster 21,509]

Just now, Negri's lovechild said:

Hence my listing of every other saturday. If we go back to those songs then great. 

I just have that same sinking feeling I had back in 2012 where the eyes and fingers were aimed directly at us.

It is only a matter of time before we start getting punished for singing them in the domestic scene as well. Better to cut it out regardless.

If we keep normalising it in the domestic game, there will be cases where we take a pumping in Europe and the fans will belt something out in defiance or something. 

[KingKirk 25,623]

3 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said:

It kinda is the context.

This is why they can possibly get away with their 'fenian army' shite, although I dont think that will last either.

Im pretty sure that every one of our uses for the word are derogatory though.

Not really sure I have heard many 'Ah thats one cute little fenian!', or 'He is giving the fenians a good name!'.

Aye I thought that as long as it's no used in an offensive way then it's no issue. So that's it fucked unless we find away round it.

That's no happening

[Cedrick 8,048]

1 minute ago, Getstiffed said:

And once that was banned they were wanting Penny Arcade removed.

And on and and on

Absolutely no doubt the offence our songs cause is deemed by our results 

[mitre_mouldmaster 21,509]

1 minute ago, Getstiffed said:

And once that was banned they were wanting Penny Arcade removed.

And on and and on

Like it or not, but calling someone a 'fenian bastard' is sectarian. This is why we are being punished.

They cant and wont start banning us for singing non offensive songs. Saying otherwise is just stupid to try and point the balme for the current situation at other folk rather than our own support.

[Negri's lovechild 13,931]

Just now, mitre_mouldmaster said:

It is only a matter of time before we start getting punished for singing them in the domestic scene as well. Better to cut it out regardless.

If we keep normalising it in the domestic game, there will be cases where we take a pumping in Europe and the fans will belt something out in defiance or something. 

It's 100% going to happen at some point domestically. If UEFA are doing this now then the domestic leagues and authorities will follow suit at some point.  

[LochendBilly 8,410]

Simply the best is a no-no then?

[A.T.G 10,773]

Just now, LochendBilly said:

Simply the best is a no-no then?

That’s been off for a while. 

[gogzy 31,195]

Just now, LochendBilly said:

Simply the best is a no-no then?

The song yes, the "fuck the pope and the IRA" add on, not so much

[Coop 654]

12 minutes ago, gogzy said:

How would that work?

What would we be taking them to court for?  Not letting us do something that is clearly against the rules we signed up to isn't a reason to take them to court.

I don't even know how we could begin arguing in favour of letting us sing songs that denigrate a religion ( like it or not, that is how some of our songs are seen by UEFA)

Challenge them on what is racist/sectarian and what's just political.

[DMax399 3,690]

I only listened to the game on the radio so can’t comment on what (if anything) was sung, but, I do hope that the club have asked for evidence of the said offence to be provided.

[pollok-bear 7,537]

Is anyone trying to tell us that the beasts haven’t sung ira songs or shouted fuck the queen in Europe this season. Seems to be ok for they bastards to do what the Fuck they want. 

[Bears r us 30,782]

1 hour ago, RFC RYAN said:

Slo has just said the hour before and after the game in the stadium is taken into it.

 

We are held in the ground for an hour after it and are advised to go into the ground as early as possible. 

Were fans told this by either the SLO or anyone from Rangers  before away games ?? Not much point in him telling fans that now ffs. 

[DavieCooper74 1,301]

I despair, its fucking bad enough that this has happened. Whats worse is cunts now checking what songs are okay and whether or not fucking Penny arcade will be safe!

[Jb85 1,783]

13 minutes ago, A.T.G said:

Club 1872 have issued an email. 

Fenians, add ons, anything regarding pope etc etc is not allowed.

FARE are videoing our supporters and sending it to UEFA. Doesn’t have to be a large section but only a few which was the case in Warsaw.

Doesn’t help there’s fans posting videos on twitter etc of being at games singing songs. 

[Bluekev 43,719]

1 minute ago, gogzy said:

The song yes, the "fuck the pope and the IRA" add on, not so much

But that's the best part

[.Williamson. 82,031]

@mitre_mouldmaster views himself as some sort of spokesperson on this subject clearly 

 

[KingKirk 25,623]

8 minutes ago, falkirkNS said:

Or let's bend over and take the witch hint against our club from a CORRUPT UEFA and fenian tinted fare.

Like it gogzy...

This board wouldn't have the baws anyway, too busy appeasing EVERYONE and ANYONE apart from Protestant, Unionist Rangers supporters of whom they are shamed of...

FFS mate c'mon usually agree with most of what you say but ffs your way off.

Just because some group might hate Catholic people mate we can't just sit back and just let them batter away its 2019 ffs. 

[James Rolle 514]

1 hour ago, fanaticCR said:

Can you please enlighten us all what songs they are?

I wish people would stop asking this.

Why don’t you write down all the songs that the fans sing and then go through each one’s lyrics and have a think which ones you think would be unacceptable. It’s not hard mate. 

[mitre_mouldmaster 21,509]

3 minutes ago, KingKirk said:

Aye I thought that as long as it's no used in an offensive way then it's no issue. So that's it fucked unless we find away round it.

That's no happening

Ajax tried in their defence of the 'fenian' banner punishment to claim that as celtic fans referred to themselves as 'fenians' the banner was not offensive.

UEFA replied by saying that although some of the celtic fans took pride in the 'fenian' tag, others were offended by it.

For this reason, it was deemed to be offensive and Ajax were punished.

Going by this logic, I would argue that if celtic hold up any banners or do any chants about Fenians, it would be a shame if any unnamed celtic fans wrote in to complain about their deep offence caused by their fellow fans.

[gogzy 31,195]

1 minute ago, Coop said:

Challenge them on what is racist/sectarian and what's just political.

Pretty sure this was tried by a team before and they failed to convince UEFA to change their stance.

I don't see court as a valid option.  They will hold us to the rules we signed up to.  The interpretation of those rules will be up to the people in charge.

[BlueVanguard 6,616]

With the amount of eyes watching us just now and the charges the club we love could face. I wont be singing the add ons at the weekend or the game tomorrow night. This season is the most important in my years watching Rangers. I do respect other fans who wish to sing the add ons though.

[bluenoz 30,729]

The second punishment is a stitch-up. It happened before we were found guilty of the first crime.. I'm sure they could find crimes when we played the Danes and  Progess if they wanted, to find reason to close the stadium but they didn't.  It is done with the sole intention to disrupt tomorrow's game. Nothing more. If we a guilty again, we deserve what comes our way but this second one blows!

[eejay the dj 31,964]

1 hour ago, MarzM said:

Because it's also against SPFL rules. Trust me...there's going to be a witch hunt if this continues. That wee cunt Stewart will be happy to highlight it

Every hater will have a say on it . Just about every one in the media . Count on that

 

[BridgeIsBlue 66,604]

12 minutes ago, gogzy said:

Got a link to that charge?  I'd need to see the wording to it to make sure we go charged under the same section for the same thing.

If not then we aren't comparing apples to apples.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/13218273

Widely known at the time it was BMG we were done for.