Bronzy 25,953 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 hour ago, LaudrupsPatrickBoots said: Tav has been pish at worst and bang average at best for most of this season so far. Good game against Aberdeen and we've got a thread claiming he's a £15m+ player. Love this forum You just don’t like him because he’s black/toffee-coloured Racist imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,438 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 6 hours ago, WGOH said: Tavernier a cap for England I think Tav is quality and irreplaceable for Rangers, but a call up got England is la la land stupid It’s la la stupid to not want the best for our players including the recognition a cap does for them both in monetary terms and self esteem he’s good enough ya fool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 46 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: It’s la la stupid to not want the best for our players including the recognition a cap does for them both in monetary terms and self esteem he’s good enough ya fool He’s nowhere near that level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,438 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 10 minutes ago, Lloyd said: He’s nowhere near that level. He’s better than Kyle Walker and he’d be pushing Kieran Trippier for RB imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,308 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Kk thinks Mike Bassett is the England manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Hobbs 2,053 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: He’s better than Kyle Walker and he’d be pushing Kieran Trippier for RB imo No he's not. Then there's Alexander Arnold and Wan Bissaka. He's got no chance of getting near the England squad. I just can't wait until he actually starts playing well. He must be pushing double figures between goals and assists, so it's going to be mega when he's not poor anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie0202 12,006 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 7 hours ago, hammer93 said: Croatia are picking from a small crop of players....tav is good for the spl....but England...never That's actually a reasonable point but I still think Tav is good enough for international recognition. Tav has been good in Europe as well so it isn't just games in Scotland that he can be judged. Having said that I dare say that if we were to get in to the Champions League next season an Tav was performing well on that stage it would increase his chances of an international cap but also at that point we would lose him as a Rangers player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLaudrup 4,437 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Let’s focus more on how he showed fantastic character as a Rangers captain to step up after two bad misses and score two penalties that beat one of our most bitter rivals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighorse 91 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Was going to put a long boring post on how good a player Tav is but fu-k it all i can say is he is brill we are very lucky to have him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 14,208 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Gerrard has already said Tavs won't be leaving unless we get a crazy offer. Can't see Tavs wanting to leave any time soon either. He has unfinished business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,507 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 4 hours ago, KeyserSoze said: It’s la la stupid to not want the best for our players including the recognition a cap does for them both in monetary terms and self esteem he’s good enough ya fool He's absolutely not good enough to play for England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,109 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Love Tav and he’s a great asset for us but nowhere near Alexander Arnold level ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronzy 25,953 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, LaudrupsPatrickBoots said: He's absolutely not good enough to play for England. Wouldn’t be totally impossible for him to get into an experimental friendly squad (à la Alan Thompson), I reckon he’s probably the 5th best English right back at the moment (behind Alexander-Arnold, Walker, Wan-Bissaka and Trippier, maybe 6th if you count Joe Gomez as a RB but I don’t). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 81,469 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Capped for England Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 He’s a good player that has found his level in the SPFL, he has huge flaws in his game that stop him going onto the next level imo. Why can’t folk just accept that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
five stars 1,606 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: He’s a good player that has found his level in the SPFL, he has huge flaws in his game that stop him going onto the next level imo. Why can’t folk just accept that. What are his huge flaws? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,438 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: He’s a good player that has found his level in the SPFL, he has huge flaws in his game that stop him going onto the next level imo. Why can’t folk just accept that. Cos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 minute ago, five stars said: What are his huge flaws? He still has problems defending, (although he has improved) his positional awareness is suspect to say the least at times and his final ball is very inconsistent. Now Im sure you’re going to disagree on all that and I can’t be arsed in another pointless Tav debate so have a nice day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,507 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 10 minutes ago, Bronzy said: Wouldn’t be totally impossible for him to get into an experimental friendly squad (à la Alan Thompson), I reckon he’s probably the 5th best English right back at the moment (behind Alexander-Arnold, Walker, Wan-Bissaka and Trippier, maybe 6th if you count Joe Gomez as a RB but I don’t). If the others were unavailable then Gomez, and probably a few others, would be considered as a RB before Tav even came into consideration. Alan Thomson's cap for England was farcical and iirc was nothing more than a token gesture from England because it came about at a time when there was talk of the likes of him, Amoruso, Didier Agathe etc being considered eligible to play for Scotland if they weren't getting a look in for their own national teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronzy 25,953 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, LaudrupsPatrickBoots said: If the others were unavailable then Gomez, and probably a few others, would be considered as a RB before Tav even came into consideration. Alan Thomson's cap for England was farcical and iirc was nothing more than a token gesture from England because it came about at a time when there was talk of the likes of him, Amoruso, Didier Agathe etc being considered eligible to play for Scotland if they weren't getting a look in for their own national teams. That’s what I meant by an experimental squad tbf, possibly one where it’s a meaningless game and Southgate doesn’t want to call up too many PL players. I know you don’t particularly rate Tavernier, and I do understand where you’re coming from (he’s frustrating as fuck at times), but I honesty think he’d be good enough for a Leicester or Bournemouth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,548 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 11 hours ago, Jamie0202 said: Barisic gets a game for Croatia. Let's just say our players are shite though and not good enough for international recognition. Sad times. Ahead of who? England have Walker, Alexander Arnold, Trippier & Wan Bissaka competing for the right back position as it is and they all play for elite level clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,548 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Kyle Walker Trwnt Alexander Arnold Kieran Trippier Aaron Wan Bissaka Joe Gomez Ainsley Maitland-Niles Max Aarons Seven right backs who would get called up for England before Tav would. People need to be realistic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,507 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bronzy said: That’s what I meant by an experimental squad tbf, possibly one where it’s a meaningless game and Southgate doesn’t want to call up too many PL players. I know you don’t particularly rate Tavernier, and I do understand where you’re coming from (he’s frustrating as fuck at times), but I honesty think he’d be good enough for a Leicester or Bournemouth. It's not that I don't rate him. On his game it's easy to see what he brings to our team and it would obviously be extremely difficult to replace that if he was to leave but he can also be horribly inconsistent which gets overlooked at times on here. He probably could go and do a job for a mid to lower table Premier League side but the claims that he's better than the likes of Trippier and Walker and that he should be getting capped for England are just lunacy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,507 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Just now, Rangers_no1 said: So does Savic as he's weak. Darren Fletcher played regularly for Man United. Gravesen played for Real Madrid. Otamendi for Man City. Just because a player starts for a top side doesn't mean the are a great player. Don't care if I get slagged but Walker and Trippier wouldn't offer anything better for us than Tav. Neither defend well at all and Walkers producitivy in a City side is a shambles. Are you saying Tav does? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,548 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 I think this will be Tav’s last season with us. He turns 28 in a few weeks time and come the end of the season he probably has one big contract left in him and he will want to Premier League payday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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