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[Blue Avenger 22,567]

24 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said:

Completely understand the criticism but still ask the same question.

If we drop him then were does the creativity come from in our team.

He has now managed to be as bad going forward as he is as a defender. Has been dug shite since the start of the season. Not his fault as Gerrard keeps picking him. If we were relying on creativity from Tav, we'd be sitting mid table at this point. 

He neither does Tav nor the team any favours in this. It's a serious flaw in his judgement and WILL cost us. He either stops playing favourites and gets ruthless or he will be seen to be a loser as we will win nothing.

At this point in time, Tav is the best right back in the North Pole and no disrespect to Polar Bears

 

[STEPPS BOY 73,890]

1 minute ago, Blue Avenger said:

He has now managed to be as bad going forward as he is as a defender. Has been dug shite since the start of the season. Not his fault as Gerrard keeps picking him. If we were relying on creativity from Tav, we'd be sitting mid table at this point. 

He neither does Tav nor the team any favours in this. It's a serious flaw in his judgement and WILL cost us. He either stops playing favourites and gets ruthless or he will be seen to be a loser as we will win nothing.

At this point in time, Tav is the best right back in the North Pole and no disrespect to Polar Bears

 

He has the most assists in our squad..

[King Jela 20,361]

1 minute ago, Bakbear said:

Arent assist creative by definition ?

 

Not really. Would you consider a corner kick creative? 

[G.E.C. 18,751]

Just now, STEPPS BOY said:

He has the most assists in our squad..

For the opposition?

[mark1963 900]

I'd like to try him as the wide midfielder in the 4,3,3, play a more defensive right back 

[King Jela 20,361]

Just now, STEPPS BOY said:

He has the most assists in our squad..

And the most mistakes. 
 

[Blue Avenger 22,567]

10 minutes ago, jbm26896 said:

He did and he was poor, but as a team we were poor today, 

Only certain players carry the can after a bad result.

Don't recall any standout performers.

 

There is no defending him, as he has been dug shite all season ffs. The fucking whole of Scottish football laughing at us in how Gerrard continues to play him

As for captain, my fucking arse. He was shit and bottled it yet again. He doesn't do pressure and we win fuck all with this serial loser.

Gerrard carries the can for this in picking him, no one else

[STEPPS BOY 73,890]

7 minutes ago, King Jela said:

Interesting. What were the ‘creative’ assists? 

Hamilton last game..

livingston at home

St Johnstone away

Aberdeen at home

That’s just the past few games.

I’d hazard a guess that Tav has created more goals from Right back than Ojo and Arfield put together.

[bluenoz 30,821]

8 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said:

Over the course of season he has the most assists in team.

so i’ll ask again, were does creativity come from in team if replaced by, say, Flanagan?

People said before the game a 1-0 boring win at Tynecastle would be good. He cost us points once again. He had about 25 attempts at crossing today and failed every single time and then fucks up defensively. How that keeps you on the park time and time again is beyond me.

[Laudrup1984 25,100]

Tav was really poor today, I don't think anyone can defend him today. That said he wasn't the only one. Morelos, Borna and maybe 1 or 2 apart we were very poor collectively.

What I would say is though, so far as I can remember Tav has had 3 pretty poor games that stand out this season and in every game we have not only failed to win but we have been arguably our least creative in terms of chances. More often than not, when Tav has a poor game we create almost nothing and collectively as a team we are poor also. However, when Tav is on it, our attacking threat is night and day.

I think he's now at a stage where it's a bit of an issue. Some are starting to really turn on him within the support and also in the media. I think anyone can almost forgive a player having a bad game, it's the magnitude of his defensive errors that are quite concerning. They have been pretty basic and a little too regular. He also looks to have lost a bit confidence and at times it seems to be effecting his attacking threat. He's going through a tough spell at the most critical time. His mistakes are hard to ignore. He's under real pressure.

How Tav and Gerrard deal with it will be interesting. It's a tough situation to handle. Hopefully Tav can rediscover his top form soon enough. We really need him to.

[Blue Avenger 22,567]

3 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said:

He has the most assists in our squad..

Away and have a lie doon ffs.

[STEPPS BOY 73,890]

Just now, bluenoz said:

People said before the game a 1-0 boring win at Tynecastle would be good. He cost us points once again. He had about 25 attempts at crossing today and failed every single time and then fucks up defensively. How that keeps you on the park time and time again is beyond me.

Drop him then for Flanagan.

I’d give it 3/4 games before almost everyone would be screaming for him back in team.

[STEPPS BOY 73,890]

1 minute ago, Blue Avenger said:

Away and have a lie doon ffs.

Happy for you to prove me wrong.

[To Be A Ranger 4,032]

Just now, STEPPS BOY said:

Drop him then for Flanagan.

I’d give it 3/4 games before almost everyone would be screaming for him back in team.

Not if we win them all

[bluenoz 30,821]

1 minute ago, STEPPS BOY said:

Drop him then for Flanagan.

I’d give it 3/4 games before almost everyone would be screaming for him back in team.

maybe that's what he needs. A rest.

[Dan Deacon 55,156]

Any cunt got stats on failed crosses

[CoplandRoad83 3,251]

19 minutes ago, ScottBF2 said:

But his assists mean hes been brilliant.

Sadly he has started getting assists for our opponents.

[plymouthranger 3,867]

1 minute ago, STEPPS BOY said:

Drop him then for Flanagan.

I’d give it 3/4 games before almost everyone would be screaming for him back in team.

Sometimes players need dropped to make them realise their performances aren’t acceptable. 

It wouldn’t be accepted anywhere else on the pitch, so our captain shouldn’t be exempt 

[Hadron Collider 30,860]

It’s time Gerrard pulled him into the office and told him it’s not good enough. He looks slower this year and his decision making is horrendous.  It’s a lot easier to win games when you don’t concede fucking goals. He’s costing us.  Time to give Polster a chance and tell the boy just to defend. We will find other options as far as creating scoring chances. Fucksakes I hope we don’t depend on only Tav to make chances for us. 

[Laudrupsleftfoot 10,868]

3 minutes ago, Laudrup1984 said:

Tav was really poor today, I don't think anyone can defend him today. That said he wasn't the only one. Morelos, Borna and maybe 1 or 2 apart we were very poor collectively.

What I would say is though, so far as I can remember Tav has had 3 pretty poor games that stand out this season and in every game we have not only failed to win but we have been arguably our least creative in terms of chances. More often than not, when Tav has a poor game we create almost nothing and collectively as a team we are poor also. However, when Tav is on it, our attacking threat is night and day.

I think he's now at a stage where it's a bit of an issue. Some are starting to really turn on him within the support and also in the media. I think anyone can almost forgive a player having a bad game, it's the magnitude of his defensive errors that are quite concerning. They have been pretty basic and a little too regular. He also looks to have lost a bit confidence and at times it seems to be effecting his attacking threat. He's going through a tough spell at the most critical time. His mistakes are hard to ignore. He's under real pressure.

How Tav and Gerrard deal with it will be interesting. It's a tough situation to handle. Hopefully Tav can rediscover his top form soon enough. We really need him to.

Great, balanced post that. And the bit highlighted in bold is what half the cunts who want him punted for Polster or Flanagan are overlooking.

[Blue Avenger 22,567]

1 minute ago, Laudrup1984 said:

Tav was really poor today, I don't think anyone can defend him today. That said he wasn't the only one. Morelos, Borna and maybe 1 or 2 apart we were very poor collectively.

What I would say is though, so far as I can remember Tav has had 3 pretty poor games that stand out this season and in every game we have not only failed to win but we have been arguably our least creative in terms of chances. More often than not, when Tav has a poor game we create almost nothing and collectively as a team we are poor also. However, when Tav is on it, our attacking threat is night and day.

I think he's now at a stage where is a bit of an issue. Some are starting to really turn on him within the support and also in the media. I think anyone can almost forgive a player having a bad game, it's the magnitude of his defensive errors that are quite concerning. They have been pretty basic and a little too regular. He also looks to have lost a bit confidence and at times it seems to be effecting his attacking threat. He's going through a tough spell at the most critical time. His mistakes are hard to ignore. He's under real pressure.

How Tav and Gerrard deal with it will be interesting. It's a tough situation to handle. Hopefully Tav can rediscover his top form soon enough. We really need him to.

Agree with all that, except Morelos. Apart from one decent play, he got fuck all today. Arfied is just what Morelos does not need near him, as he doesn't have the ability or brains to be anywhere near him. He fucks up every move and could't hit a barn door at 10 yards when he gets the chance.

Morelos needs someone with a deft touch and guile around him, not a work horse with little ability. Stewart would be much better foil for him.

[Blue Avenger 22,567]

5 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said:

Happy for you to prove me wrong.

What was today's result again?! Oh we dropped two points and by no other than Tav who gifted them!

Be great if stat's won you games.

He's been a fucking embarassment all season.

[BookWorm 4,120]

Very poor again today and Gerrard really needs to find a way to fix this. First step would be passing on the armband then bite the bullet and try Flanagan or Polster properly.  This needs sorting out urgently.

[Bakbear 3,586]

16 minutes ago, King Jela said:

Not really. Would you consider a corner kick creative? 

Hmm... there are definitely good corners and bad corners... he had some awful corners today.... but he hasn't got a corner assist this season has he? His assists in the last few weeks have been excellent.

 

Still poor though... but lets not overcook it needlessly because it detracts from the point that he is weak minded and weak defensively and when off form like he is now he is not worth his jersey

[Laudrup1984 25,100]

10 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said:

Agree with all that, except Morelos. Apart from one decent play, he got fuck all today. Arfied is just what Morelos does not need near him, as he doesn't have the ability or brains to be anywhere near him. He fucks up every move and could't hit a barn door at 10 yards when he gets the chance.

Morelos needs someone with a deft touch and guile around him, not a work horse with little ability. Stewart would be much better foil for him.

I thought first half Morelos was quite good,  got 2 of their guys booked breaking away with cute play (possibly could have got another one of their players booked), always looking to roll players and then obviously got the goal. Start of the second half he played a nice cross field pass to get Arfield in. Also the one he squared to Arfield, I probably wish he was a little more greedy and smashed it. Some loose and sloppy play too but I thought  he was one of our better player, which wasn't difficult. Not really much to take from today in all honesty though.