Hadron Collider 30,314 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, ForeverAndEver said: Like Kilmarnock earlier in the season? What happened yesterday then? Never a captain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheriffHood 535 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I'm old enough to have some great captains and great full backs. Tavernier couldn't lace their boots. The fact that so many on here actually think he's Rangers quality baffles me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 70,943 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 26 minutes ago, Hadron Collider said: What happened yesterday then? Never a captain. He was rotten, but which player did pull us out the gutter? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 30,314 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, ForeverAndEver said: He was rotten, but which player did pull us out the gutter? There was only 2 players for me that got pass marks yesterday. Alfie and Borna. Not only did Tav fuckup for the goal, but he had numerous chances to put a decent ball in for us. Never happened though. Yes, I agree mate, he was rotten yesterday, but this is now becoming a theme with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,548 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 45 minutes ago, jbm26896 said: The Tav bashing continues. Rightfully so at this point. He’s been fucking honking this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.E.C. 18,633 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 hours ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Worse one was the free kick right at the end. I was begging for Barisic to swing it in with his left but no our captain had to be in charge and again fucked it miles from the danger area. My 10 year old strikes a better dead ball and cross than that clown yesterday. Worst thing is as soon as we got that free kick you knew straight away it would be a shite ball. Barisic should have hit it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhW 4,669 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 59 minutes ago, jbm26896 said: The Tav bashing continues. Do you think he should be praised for his performance yesterday? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackAlex93 10,914 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Tav has been very poor this season so far Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.E.C. 18,633 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 hours ago, DBBTB said: I really wonder if he wanted a move in the Summer and his form is suffering because he didn’t get it. As an Englishman I imagine he will want to play in the Premiership at some point and at 27 (28 by the time the season ends) he probably knows he’s only got one big contract left in him and the opportunity might be slipping away from him. Usually a player would get their head down and get on with it, but he’s never come across as a player with a strong and determined will. I’m not trying to play armchair psychologist, but it’s clear that there is something way off with him. Would any Premiership team realistically go for him? Apart from Newcastle I’ve never known any other clubs to be linked with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,359 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 hours ago, DBBTB said: I really wonder if he wanted a move in the Summer and his form is suffering because he didn’t get it. As an Englishman I imagine he will want to play in the Premiership at some point and at 27 (28 by the time the season ends) he probably knows he’s only got one big contract left in him and the opportunity might be slipping away from him. Usually a player would get their head down and get on with it, but he’s never come across as a player with a strong and determined will. I’m not trying to play armchair psychologist, but it’s clear that there is something way off with him. I think it isnt as in depth than that, tav has always been fucking howling defensively, i remember kiernan screaming at him for losing his man at ibrox and costing us a goal against the tarriers under Warburton, he's been pish at the back his whole Rangers career and probably beforehand given his career to date What will be affecting him is the lack of someone proper on the right hand side he can work off, last season candieas used to cover when tav went overlapping, hence the number of assists and goals, now he doesn't have that cover his attacking threat is neutralised and he's is forced into playing more defensively, which he is shit at Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbm26896 995 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, OhW said: Do you think he should be praised for his performance yesterday? No ,but the criticism is over the top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,359 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, G.E.C. said: Would any Premiership team realistically go for him? Apart from Newcastle I’ve never known any other clubs to be linked with him. None would, given his age and what a semi decent scout would spot he'd get a championship team at best, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,548 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, G.E.C. said: Would any Premiership team realistically go for him? Apart from Newcastle I’ve never known any other clubs to be linked with him. I think he could easily play in that league tbh. There are full backs who are a lot worse than him that get a game every week. If Kenny McLean is good enough to play in the Premier League then Tav, despite his deficiencies, is too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,548 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, jbm26896 said: No ,but the criticism is over the top. He’s the captain of Rangers. There’s always going to be more pressure and spotlight on him than there is on other players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbm26896 995 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 32 minutes ago, DBBTB said: Rightfully so at this point. He’s been fucking honking this season. Poor yesterday yes , honking all season, no Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbm26896 995 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, DBBTB said: He’s the captain of Rangers. There’s always going to be more pressure and spotlight on him than there is on other players. He is the captain and should shoulder the responsibility for the mistakes he is making. However I just don't get the personal abuse aimed at Rangers players, from our own so called " supporters" . Being bitter towards our own, does us no favours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,562 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Blue Avenger said: Gerrard needs to intervene and drop him as is deserved, otherwise he sends a message to the rest that falling standards are acceptable and that would be the end of any title challenge. I really want Stevie to succeed B A, but I am starting to wonder if he will get it right if he continues to play his favourite players no matter how shite they perform, it is a real concern. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbm26896 995 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, Bears r us said: I really want Stevie to succeed B A, but I am starting to wonder if he will get it right if he continues to play his favourite players no matter how shite they perform, it is a real concern. Every manager in the game has his favourite players, SG is no different . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhW 4,669 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, jbm26896 said: He is the captain and should shoulder the responsibility for the mistakes he is making. However I just don't get the personal abuse aimed at Rangers players All the criticism has been about his footballing and leadership qualities. Haven’t seen any personal abuse at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, OhW said: All the criticism has been about his footballing and leadership qualities. Haven’t seen any personal abuse at all. Correct Seen nothing personal myself . The big fans of Tav can be a bit precious at times And every player gets criticism. It has to be expected when its consitantly poor form Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbm26896 995 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, OhW said: All the criticism has been about his footballing and leadership qualities. Haven’t seen any personal abuse at all. Try reading the beginning of the thread. Prick , wanker, idiot are not personal . Usual posters with the usual nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,017 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 41 minutes ago, jbm26896 said: He is the captain and should shoulder the responsibility for the mistakes he is making. However I just don't get the personal abuse aimed at Rangers players, from our own so called " supporters" . Being bitter towards our own, does us no favours. What personal abuse? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangeclement 569 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I'm pretty sure ALL the goals we have conceded this year have been down to mistakes from 2 players ...... Tav and Goldson the only 2 who never get taken out the team after bad performances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,592 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 He's one of our best player but his form has dipped, we were not up for the game yesterday at all the players approached the game like it ws the first game of the season after a long layoff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Orangeclement said: I'm pretty sure ALL the goals we have conceded this year have been down to mistakes from 2 players ...... Tav and Goldson the only 2 who never get taken out the team after bad performances. You aren't wrong Goldson has a very big game in front of him this Thursday He does not deal well with franetic pace in a match. Another stinker from him and we may have a problem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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