lau03143 84 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, ricksen_da_best said: There was definite booing mate cause it got a reaction from a few around me I heard it too, and my mate at work I was talking to heard it too. Definitely from the numpty element of our support. Luckily it wasn't widespread. He also got a bit of a round of applause from some too. Mostly the reaction was one of disappointment in him, as hes bang out of form and seemingly undroppable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, King Jela said: Pish I heard it so did others. 100% happened in the SJ rear. Not loads of people, but enough for it to be audible. Why do you think Gerrard asked the fans to get behind him? think I even have a recording of it on my phone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 You're fishing @King Jela Plenty on here heard it. You are either full of pish or weren't there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 41 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said: He was given a chance against East Fife and struggled. One game 😂😂😂😂 Did he cost us the game? Did he make goal conceding mistakes? If not then he is a better right back than tav Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,781 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 52 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said: He was given a chance against East Fife and struggled. Don’t even know why you are bothering mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 "Rangers captain James Tavernier could be taken off penalty duty after he failed from the spot for the third time this season. The right-back stepped up against Motherwell yesterday but saw his effort come back off the post, adding to misses against Progres and Feyenoord in the Europa League. Manager Steven Gerrard is considering handing spot kick responsibility to someone else but Tavernier is far from the only player to blunder from 12 yards multiple times in one season. On average penalties are converted 76 per cent of the time so Tavernier's record of six misses and 20 goals is almost exactly par. Indeed, even the best players in the world regularly get it wrong from the spot. Last season Paul Pogba missed three penalties for Manchester United - who missed twice from the spot in Sunday's win over Norwich, Marcus Rashford and Andreas Pereira the guilty parties on this occasion. Like Tavernier, Rashford has missed three penalties this season and plenty of star names have similar or worse records. Juventus superstar Cristiano Ronaldo missed five in the 2015-16 season, three for Real Madrid and two for Portugal - including in a 0-0 draw with Austria at Euro 2016. His great rival Lionel Messi missed four La Liga spot kicks in the same season and has failed to score with 25 of his 110 penalty kicks - a success rate of about 77 per cent. It seems Argentines in general aren't great from the spot. Sergio Aguero missed three in the 2016-17 season, including two in one Champions League game against Steaua Bucharest. Gonzalo Higuain has scored more than 100 goals in both La Liga and Serie A, but in the 2014-15 season he missed four penalties for Napoli. He's scored 19 and missed eight in a career which has so far brought 329 goals in 682 matches. And spare a thought for poor Martin Palermo. The former striker is the top scorer in the history of Boca Juniors, has six league titles to his name and two Copa Libertadores. He scored in the Intercontinental Cup final against Real Madrid and got nine goals in 15 Argentina caps. Mention his name though and all anyone will remember is the three penalties he missed in one game against Colombia at the 1999 Copa America. Even the ice-cold Mario Balotelli, who has converted 88 per cent of his 42 spot kicks, missed two in the 2013-14 season. The first was saved by Napoli goalkeeper Pepe Reina and was the first the Italian had ever missed after 21 successful efforts. Tavernier may or may not remain on penalty duty for Rangers but he's hardly alone in getting it wrong from 12 yards." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,781 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 His conversion rate might be the average but if you miss as many as he has in such a short space of time then you should step away from them for a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 That's all good stats and that, but none of Tavs kicks have been saved if I remember correctly. He's missed the target with all of his penalty misses this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumhoilann 6,712 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, DBBTB said: His conversion rate might be the average but if you miss as many as he has in such a short space of time then you should step away from them for a bit. Think he's trying to play himself out of his poor form but he should be man enough to drop himself from the penalties,they're too important. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, DBBTB said: His conversion rate might be the average but if you miss as many as he has in such a short space of time then you should step away from them for a bit. They should let Barisic take them IMO. Penalties are as much about confidence as anything else. Barisic's confidence is high and he's a dead ball specialist. Barisic took the penalties for Osijek so he has experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZed 4,510 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 I just wish we would get a proper right back who can defend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 18 hours ago, ZZed said: I just wish we would get a proper right back who can defend. The 4-3-3 requires attacking full-backs. Tavernier is arguably the best in the country in that role. Flanagan is better defensively but what good is that against teams like Motherwell who sit back for 90mins? We need full-backs who can get forward and make a difference. Barisic and Tavernier can make the difference this season. They have been making a positive difference this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, DBBTB said: Don’t even know why you are bothering mate. He's decided a players Rangers career on one game, morelos was shite in his first game for the club, imagine we had that thinking back then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, TMB said: The 4-3-3 requires attacking full-backs. Tavernier is arguably the best in the country in that role. Flanagan is better defensively but what good is that against teams like Motherwell who sit back for 90mins? We need full-backs who can get forward and make a difference. Barisic and Tavernier can make the difference in this season. Or you have fullbacks who simply support the midfielders and attackers from the halfway line, whats the point in playing 2 sitting midfielders and asking two defenders to do the attacking, get the midfield 5 attacking and have the backline supporting them by winning the ball back on the halfway line Ffs walter finished his career here by playing 2 centre halves at fullback, scottish football isn't that intelligent that requires overlapping fullbacks and wide strikers that drift inside to make a midfield triangle or whatever funky idea they wanna call it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: He's decided a players Rangers career on one game, morelos was shite in his first game for the club, imagine we had that thinking back then No one on here decides anything. Gerrard watches these players everyday in training. If Polster can’t get near the squad there’s a reason for that. Same with guys like King. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, TMB said: No one on here decides anything. Gerrard watches these players everyday in training. If Polster can’t get near the squad there’s a reason for that. Same with guys like King. Aye cause gerrard has favourites, gerrard has rotated everyone bar goldson and tav, both of whom have had shockingly poor form spells, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Or you have fullbacks who simply support the midfielders and attackers from the halfway line, whats the point in playing 2 sitting midfielders and asking two defenders to do the attacking, get the midfield 5 attacking and have the backline supporting them by winning the ball back on the halfway line Ffs walter finished his career here by playing 2 centre halves at fullback, scottish football isn't that intelligent that requires overlapping fullbacks and wide strikers that drift inside to make a midfield triangle or whatever funky idea they wanna call it The whole point of a narrow front three is that the full-backs overlap, become wingers, and overload the opposition defense. It would be great if we could let the midfield 5 do all the attacking but they’re not delivering on that front. Gerrard said it against Hearts - “they didn’t show up to the party”. We lack a creative player in the midfield three and the wide players don’t contribute enough goals. We need the full-backs going forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Aye cause gerrard has favourites, gerrard has rotated everyone bar goldson and tav, both of whom have had shockingly poor form spells, If you dislike Gerrard that’s fine. I think the guy has been great for us and we’ve come on considerably since his arrival. I trust his judgment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,781 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: He's decided a players Rangers career on one game, morelos was shite in his first game for the club, imagine we had that thinking back then That is a terrible comparison tbh. We signed Polster nearly a year ago, Gerrard, McAliistair, Beale & Milsolm have watched him in training every single day since then and have decided that he was only good enough to play against East Fife and St Joseph’s. Do you really think he’s just being held back because Tav is a favourite or do you think he’s maybe just not a very good player, because I know which one I think is the more likely scenario? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricksen_da_best 2,034 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 hours ago, King Jela said: Pish. Give it a rest mate if you can’t contribute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,835 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said: Morelos or Defoe should take them when on the field , if not then Barisic. I'm not sure why but I wouldn't feel overly confident if Morelos took penalties. Granted, I have no reason to base this on. Just a gut feeling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Will just be glad when he leaves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 47 minutes ago, TMB said: The whole point of a narrow front three is that the full-backs overlap, become wingers, and overload the opposition defense. It would be great if we could let the midfield 5 do all the attacking but they’re not delivering on that front. Gerrard said it against Hearts - “they didn’t show up to the party”. We lack a creative player in the midfield three and the wide players don’t contribute enough goals. We need the full-backs going forward. Of course the midfield 3 won't deliver, 2 of them inevitably need to hang back to cover the fullbacks, while the 3rd is taking the ball off the centre halves to pass to said fullbacks We have Kent, barker, ojo, jones, hastie, middleton, all actual get the ball down and take on their man wingers, and we dont play a system that allows that, we play so narrow at times it stifles us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 46 minutes ago, DBBTB said: That is a terrible comparison tbh. We signed Polster nearly a year ago, Gerrard, McAliistair, Beale & Milsolm have watched him in training every single day since then and have decided that he was only good enough to play against East Fife and St Joseph’s. Do you really think he’s just being held back because Tav is a favourite or do you think he’s maybe just not a very good player, because I know which one I think is the more likely scenario? The poster i replied to never said anything about Gerrard etc, it was his own opinion based on one game against east fife, which is laughable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,781 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: The poster i replied to never said anything about Gerrard etc, it was his own opinion based on one game against east fife, which is laughable And I’m saying that if the guy hasn’t been able to get into the team for nearly a year then that opinion, while slightly harsh, probably isn’t unfounded Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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