RangersMedia 35,961 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-50087600 This needs investigating as a matter of urgency. - updated with statement from the club: Quote ‘BBC Scotland’s reporting on these horrific incidents and, in particular, its sensationalist and unfair accusation of a cover up by Rangers is disgraceful. 'Rangers based its prior description as to what occurred on trusted first-hand accounts from those with personal knowledge of what took place and the appropriate steps taken at that time. To suggest, as BBC Scotland’s Mark Daly has done, that these are invalidated by a short, filler piece in the Rangers News written almost 30 years ago by someone who clearly had no knowledge of the events, or the reasons for Neely’s sacking is nonsense. Indeed, it is shameful. 'BBC Scotland has a history of inaccurate reporting when commenting on Rangers and a string of apologies given to Rangers by BBC Scotland in recent times is clear evidence of this. However, on a matter of such gravity we do not think it is unreasonable to expect better than Mr Daly’s report. 'The important people here are the victims of abuse and we owe it to them to deal sensitively and supportively with the issues they raise. 'Rangers will do all it can to assist in offering support and counselling to anyone affected. Their wellbeing should be at the centre of every right thinking person’s concern.’ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookWorm 3,997 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Needs investigated pronto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,002 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Just heard that on the tv, cunts trying to drag us down along with them. Wonder what the complaint’s after or who’s working them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,762 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, ritchieshearercaldow said: Just heard that on the tv, cunts trying to drag us down along with them. Wonder what the complaint’s after or who’s working them It would appear the complainant is after money because according to the article he is pursuing a claim against Rangers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 So we sacked him for threatening to spank a 14 year old. Whether we phoned the police or not they wouldn’t have done anything This is a new low for the BBC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted October 17, 2019 Author Share Posted October 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, ritchieshearercaldow said: Just heard that on the tv, cunts trying to drag us down along with them. Wonder what the complaint’s after or who’s working them He is suing Rangers and if this is a legitimate claim we need to be sincerely apologising to him and compensating him Just now, Courtyard Bear said: So we sacked him for threatening to spank a 14 year old. Whether we phoned the police or not they wouldn’t have done anything This is a new low for the BBC. Threatening to spank a 14 year old? Really? You'd be ok with a coach telling your 14 year old to drop their pants? This is absolutely fuck all to do with those cunts on the other side of this city ffs. This is a very, very serious accusation that we covered up paedophilia at our football club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,762 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 The BBC web site article about Gordon Neely alleges that RFC covered up his abuse. Now let me say at the outset that such abuse is disgusting and the perpetrators should be punished in a way far more severe than is currently legal. However, the way the BBC has reported this is deliberately trying to show up the Club in a bad light. When you read the actual story the truth is considerably different to the headlines. A youngster alleged abuse by Neely and Rangers sacked him immediately. Rangers had no prior knowledge of Neely's behaviour but sacked him anyway. If the boy and his parents weren't happy at that outcome then why didn't they take it further at the time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,203 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Can I suggest moving this to general sports. Whilst its Rangers related, its fundamentally wrong to discuss it in the main, most visited section of the forum when we aren't allowed to debate the rest of the country's abuse in here too. It would be like doing the haters work for them. That's not to say I want it covered up, or dont want the truth to prevail. Any complicit club or individual should be hammered for their actions if proven. Which an independent enquiry has more chance of uncovering than a joke sfa one. So let's debate away, but lets do it where the other debate is then the paedo lurkers and journalists can see the full discussion. Edit: if it wanted, this is the time for the club to speak out about this and other allegations and convictions and demand independent review countrywide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BouncyBluenose87 1,538 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Already had a taig message me trying to point score by claiming we’re just as bad as them because of this. Comparing the cover up of an isolated incident with the cover up of industrial scale paedophilia...he’s dumber than I thought 🤦🏻♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,289 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I thought this boys dad was a policeman? Its sickening if that article is true though and heads should roll Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie1963 2,347 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: So we sacked him for threatening to spank a 14 year old. Whether we phoned the police or not they wouldn’t have done anything This is a new low for the BBC. Threatening to or did ? Did he actually do anything physical ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgally 452 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Just read it,we need to come out with a statement with the truth or they're going to try and tar us with the same brush as them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,002 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, psb07158 said: He is suing Rangers and if this is a legitimate claim we need to be sincerely apologising to him and compensating him Em...why now, it all seems a bit Me Too, when we look across the city and we see the potential pay outs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted October 17, 2019 Author Share Posted October 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, JCDBigBear said: The BBC web site article about Gordon Neely alleges that RFC covered up his abuse. Now let me say at the outset that such abuse is disgusting and the perpetrators should be punished in a way far more severe than is currently legal. However, the way the BBC has reported this is deliberately trying to show up the Club in a bad light. When you read the actual story the truth is considerably different to the headlines. A youngster alleged abuse by Neely and Rangers sacked him immediately. Rangers had no prior knowledge of Neely's behaviour but sacked him anyway. If the boy and his parents weren't happy at that outcome then why didn't they take it further at the time? 2 years ago our club said we reported it to the police immediately. Now it has come to light we may not have and instead we gave him a nice send off in our official club magazine. The BBC are definitely making the most of it given the relationship between us but I think it warrants an investigation and as a fan I absolutely expect our club to do the right thing here and investigate this thoroughly. If we didnt report it to the police why did we say we did? 2 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Can I suggest moving this to general sports. Whilst its Rangers related, its fundamentally wrong to discuss it in the main, most visited section of the forum when we aren't allowed to debate the rest of the country's abuse in here too. It would be like doing the haters work for them. That's not to say I want it covered up, or dont want the truth to prevail. Any complicit club or individual should be hammered for their actions if proven. Which an independent enquiry has more chance of uncovering than a joke sfa one. So let's debate away, but lets do it where the other debate is then the paedo lurkers and journalists can see the full discussion. No. It's Rangers related. There's absolutely no reason to discuss them and their disgusting cover up at the same time as our own alleged one. 2 minutes ago, BouncyBluenose87 said: Already had a taig message me claiming we’re just as bad as the Taigs because of this. If he believes that then he’s dumber than I thought 🤦🏻♂️ Has your friend just admitted they abused children and covered it up? Wow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, JCDBigBear said: The BBC web site article about Gordon Neely alleges that RFC covered up his abuse. Now let me say at the outset that such abuse is disgusting and the perpetrators should be punished in a way far more severe than is currently legal. However, the way the BBC has reported this is deliberately trying to show up the Club in a bad light. When you read the actual story the truth is considerably different to the headlines. A youngster alleged abuse by Neely and Rangers sacked him immediately. Rangers had no prior knowledge of Neely's behaviour but sacked him anyway. If the boy and his parents weren't happy at that outcome then why didn't they take it further at the time? The club reported it to the police against the wishes of the parents, one of whom was a copper himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted October 17, 2019 Author Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, ritchieshearercaldow said: Em...why now, it all seems a bit Me Too, when we look across the city and we see the potential pay outs. If the allegations are true, and as I've posted above, the club has to investigate this immediately as a matter of urgency, then the timing of the claim is irrelevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, psb07158 said: He is suing Rangers and if this is a legitimate claim we need to be sincerely apologising to him and compensating him Threatening to spank a 14 year old? Really? You'd be ok with a coach telling your 14 year old to drop their pants? This is absolutely fuck all to do with those cunts on the other side of this city ffs. This is a very, very serious accusation that we covered up paedophilia at our football club Nope I wouldn’t but I also wouldn’t expect the police to charge him for that back in the late 80’s early 90’s. So what is to say the club didn’t phone the police and the police simply said there is nothing to investigate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodRunsBlue 1,303 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: So we sacked him for threatening to spank a 14 year old. Whether we phoned the police or not they wouldn’t have done anything This is a new low for the BBC. I agree. It sounds pretty insignificant and stinks of a set up. Or at least a cynical grab for cash. However, this will be on the BBC news in about 10 minutes. It could prove to be very damaging to the club. Its time for Dave King to ask openly why the pedo ring at the scum is being ignored while the media are attacking Rangers as usual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted October 17, 2019 Author Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Getstiffed said: The club reported it to the police against the wishes of the parents, one of whom was a copper himself. ...that's the part being challenged mate and the club have to come out and address this. It's being claimed we did not actually report it to the police. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dickie1963 said: Threatening to or did ? Did he actually do anything physical ? According to the guy he never touched him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Just now, psb07158 said: 2 years ago our club said we reported it to the police immediately. Now it has come to light we may not have and instead we gave him a nice send off in our official club magazine. The BBC are definitely making the most of it given the relationship between us but I think it warrants an investigation and as a fan I absolutely expect our club to do the right thing here and investigate this thoroughly. If we didnt report it to the police why did we say we did? No. It's Rangers related. There's absolutely no reason to discuss them and their disgusting cover up at the same time as our own alleged one. Has your friend just admitted they abused children and covered it up? Wow. No, we never gave him a "nice send off" in the club newspaper. A junior reporter gave the standard best wishes pish that most inconsequential staff members leaving would receive. Don't try and make out we put out a 10 page pull out lording the cunt up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bydo 3,192 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 If he was sacked, he should not have had A nice wee parting of the ways paragraph under the Rangers News, under any circumstances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 90,245 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I'll just pretend it didn't happen in the name of our great club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Just now, psb07158 said: ...that's the part being challenged mate and the club have to come out and address this. It's being claimed we did not actually report it to the police. Easy claim to make considering it was 30 years ago and the Police back then would have binned any record of it after speaking to the parents and being told not to pursue it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Has anyone asked this guy if his parents at the time wanted it all kept quiet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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