Bad Robot 21,148 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 I noticed today that all our corners were taking by swinging the ball out and that really goes against every thing I’ve known over the years where the right footer does the inswinger over at the left and vice versa. Is this a new thing in modern football or is it a SG thing ? Warburton always seem to take a short corner which was wrong and again today we never tried this at any point and it was just swing in so surely we need to mix it up a bit with say 1 in 4? ps Davis’s header from outside the box was outstanding 👏🏻👏🏻 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 We’ve scored a number of corners this season. The winner against Kilmarnock. A goal again today. So the conversion rate seems to be there. Also makes sense Barisic puts them in from the left, while Tav puts them in from the right. They can quickly get back in to position after taking the set-piece. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie0202 12,272 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 @Bad Robot I'm not sure mate. There was a spell last season for a good few weeks that Halliday took the corners from the right and Tavernier took them from the left and I remember how dangerous we looked from them. Odd we've changed back to an out-swinger. Another thing I don't like about out-swinging corners is that now and again the assistant flags for the ball drifting out out of play before coming back in, utterly wasting the opportunity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Tav struggles to get back from taking a corner on his side, he’s no chance if he has to get right across the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 We beat the 1st defender regularly so I wasnt too pissed off with them today tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 23 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: Tav struggles to get back from taking a corner on his side, he’s no chance if he has to get right across the pitch. He shouldn't be on the pitch to take any dead ball. Of late, they have been fucking horrendous. Bouncing them off the oppo, over hitting them or a mile off target. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,148 Posted October 20, 2019 Author Share Posted October 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Jamie0202 said: @Bad Robot I'm not sure mate. There was a spell last season for a good few weeks that Halliday took the corners from the right and Tavernier took them from the left and I remember how dangerous we looked from them. Odd we've changed back to an out-swinger. Another thing I don't like about out-swinging corners is that now and again the assistant flags for the ball drifting out out of play before coming back in, utterly wasting the opportunity. I meant to check out the Man U Liverpool game today to see what they were doing but after dropping points my Interest had faded lol but yes if it’s not going out of play the ball is going the opposite direction imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie0202 12,272 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 47 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: Tav struggles to get back from taking a corner on his side, he’s no chance if he has to get right across the pitch. That might not be a bad thing because recently when he has made his way back to a defensive position he has made a cunt of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cogsy69uk 60 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Would like to see it mixed up a bit, I know we’ve scored from a few this season but in general our set pieces are poor. Also think we need to mix it up at throw ins, instead of passing back to the player taking the throw every time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 90,759 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 I quite liked what we where trying in pre season, short corner, passed out then knocked back ten yards n whipped in trying to catch the defenders pushing out, seem to have scrapped them though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35 Yard Dangerman 3,476 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 25 minutes ago, born a blue nose said: I quite liked what we where trying in pre season, short corner, passed out then knocked back ten yards n whipped in trying to catch the defenders pushing out, seem to have scrapped them though Yip. A good ball in and I'm out my seat as soon as it leaves a foot. 9 times out of 10 I'm left looking a numpty though lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,463 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 The problem with having both your set piece takes at full backs. Pretty much leaves you no other option than to take out swinging corners as in swinging corners put that player out of position as soon as the corner is taken. Would like to see someone else further up front take responsibility for set pieces, Davis, Kent or Stewart for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,110 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 3 hours ago, Bad Robot said: I noticed today that all our corners were taking by swinging the ball out and that really goes against every thing I’ve known over the years where the right footer does the inswinger over at the left and vice versa. Is this a new thing in modern football or is it a SG thing ? Warburton always seem to take a short corner which was wrong and again today we never tried this at any point and it was just swing in so surely we need to mix it up a bit with say 1 in 4? ps Davis’s header from outside the box was outstanding 👏🏻👏🏻 They had zonal marking, meaning our players have more space and easier runs onto out swinging corners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,522 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 3 hours ago, Bad Robot said: I noticed today that all our corners were taking by swinging the ball out and that really goes against every thing I’ve known over the years where the right footer does the inswinger over at the left and vice versa. Is this a new thing in modern football or is it a SG thing ? Warburton always seem to take a short corner which was wrong and again today we never tried this at any point and it was just swing in so surely we need to mix it up a bit with say 1 in 4? ps Davis’s header from outside the box was outstanding 👏🏻👏🏻 Really not a modern thing at all. Davie Cooper used to take a lot of outswingers from the left. Off the top of my head Richard Gough's header against celtic in 96 was from an Albertz outswinger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,792 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 1 hour ago, cogsy69uk said: Would like to see it mixed up a bit, I know we’ve scored from a few this season but in general our set pieces are poor. Also think we need to mix it up at throw ins, instead of passing back to the player taking the throw every time. I think we should be mixing it as well, surely we can decide to have a left footer take one form the right and vice versa form the left if the first two have not worked. See throw ins, I wonder why we never try to find someone who can take a long throw, it cannot be too difficult to see who has some natural ability and spend some time improving their technique. I cannot remember when we last had a player that could cause havoc with a long throw ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 90,759 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 47 minutes ago, Bears r us said: I think we should be mixing it as well, surely we can decide to have a left footer take one form the right and vice versa form the left if the first two have not worked. See throw ins, I wonder why we never try to find someone who can take a long throw, it cannot be too difficult to see who has some natural ability and spend some time improving their technique. I cannot remember when we last had a player that could cause havoc with a long throw ?? Something's telling me micheal ball, fuck knows why as I don't remember much of him lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,792 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 29 minutes ago, born a blue nose said: Something's telling me micheal ball, fuck knows why as I don't remember much of him lol You might be right mate I cannot remember but then I do not remember much now that I am on the wrong side of sixty . 😁 I still think it can be another useful thing to have if a player can be found to be good at it. 👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 1 hour ago, esquire8 said: The problem with having both your set piece takes at full backs. Pretty much leaves you no other option than to take out swinging corners as in swinging corners put that player out of position as soon as the corner is taken. Would like to see someone else further up front take responsibility for set pieces, Davis, Kent or Stewart for example. Kent can take corners with either foot, from either side. He always hits inswingers. Once he’s back in the team he’ll be another option to take them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookWorm 4,123 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Our corner taking has been rubbish for years. Middleton is a cracking dead ball striker and took a great corner I always noticed but hey ho. Tav is particularly bad. I would have Davis and Barisic taking all corners and have Tav covering at the back out the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbm26896 995 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I would expect Kent to take all corners when he is on the team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amokachi 3,007 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 15 hours ago, cogsy69uk said: Would like to see it mixed up a bit, I know we’ve scored from a few this season but in general our set pieces are poor. Also think we need to mix it up at throw ins, instead of passing back to the player taking the throw every time. Agree re the throw ins, unreal how easily we surrender possession from throw ins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gj923 1,457 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Sure there was a report done on corners in the EPL over a number of years which showed only 3% lead to a goal. So I don't think its just us where it appears corners often come to nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 12 hours ago, BookWorm said: Our corner taking has been rubbish for years. Middleton is a cracking dead ball striker and took a great corner I always noticed but hey ho. Tav is particularly bad. I would have Davis and Barisic taking all corners and have Tav covering at the back out the way. Just keep Tav away from dead ball situations. In fact just keep him off the fucking park as he is now a man down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Barisic should take all our set pieces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,531 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Quiz: Q: when was the last time the corner taker was accredited with an assist? A: corners always end up 50:50, we should do something that means we retain possession from a corner. This is based on “years’” as the answer to my question Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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