ianb1547 3,767 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 I appreciate the differences in age/size of pitches/11 a side etc.....but this research was based on medical findings. It should therefore follow that there be a medical reason why age 11 is chosen - not the fact they move to a bigger pitch etc. Don't think everyone will ever agree on this one and I just feel it has been a knee-jerk reaction from a governing body. ...and @Courtyard Bear........ hope your son recovers well (and remembers the wee nasty that did the kick) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 1 hour ago, ianb1547 said: I appreciate the differences in age/size of pitches/11 a side etc.....but this research was based on medical findings. It should therefore follow that there be a medical reason why age 11 is chosen - not the fact they move to a bigger pitch etc. Don't think everyone will ever agree on this one and I just feel it has been a knee-jerk reaction from a governing body. ...and @Courtyard Bear........ hope your son recovers well (and remembers the wee nasty that did the kick) Back to training on Monday hopefully no step backs, they still have to play them again so he will get his chance. Dad here got sent to the car park so don’t know yet if I’m to appear in front of the league committee. 😂😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopsleftboot 5,512 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Spent 10 years in Germany, and coached the local "brits" boys team, from Bambini's to Under 11. Although heading wasn't banned, 99% of coaching was always on the ground, improving technique, movement and game awareness. Even in games, keepers (or players taking by-kicks) are not allowed to kick the ball beyond the half way line. Takes away the "shell" pass and forces kids to play. It was only the brit parents who it seemed to upset! Anyway, fast forward to today, my son now plays in a Highland League U17s team and is one of the very few in the squad who can, with regularity, bring a ball quickly under control and find a pass. Most of that goes unnoticed until he wins a tackle....then you hear the encouragement. Banning heading for youngsters might be the best thing to happen to our game in years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbertzLoyalRSC 18,036 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 1 hour ago, coopsleftboot said: Spent 10 years in Germany, and coached the local "brits" boys team, from Bambini's to Under 11. Although heading wasn't banned, 99% of coaching was always on the ground, improving technique, movement and game awareness. Even in games, keepers (or players taking by-kicks) are not allowed to kick the ball beyond the half way line. Takes away the "shell" pass and forces kids to play. It was only the brit parents who it seemed to upset! Anyway, fast forward to today, my son now plays in a Highland League U17s team and is one of the very few in the squad who can, with regularity, bring a ball quickly under control and find a pass. Most of that goes unnoticed until he wins a tackle....then you hear the encouragement. Banning heading for youngsters might be the best thing to happen to our game in years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotstopper 765 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Has anyone on here ever watched or been involved in eleven and under football? Firstly, most of these games are seven aside and played on these awful plastic pitches. Secondly, youngsters at that age can hardly kick a ball any distance, let alone kick the ball up in the air. Therfore, heading the ball is not common at all and very rarely, if ever, coached at training. Out of the gazillions of players throughout the decades, I wonder how many have suffered brain damage by heading a football. No doubt there may be a few but let's man up and be sensible, heading is a major part of the game, just as tackling is. Christmas is just around the corner, plenty of snowflakes then. We don't need them ruining our beautiful game now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,308 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 17 hours ago, shotstopper said: Has anyone on here ever watched or been involved in eleven and under football? Firstly, most of these games are seven aside and played on these awful plastic pitches. Secondly, youngsters at that age can hardly kick a ball any distance, let alone kick the ball up in the air. Therfore, heading the ball is not common at all and very rarely, if ever, coached at training. Out of the gazillions of players throughout the decades, I wonder how many have suffered brain damage by heading a football. No doubt there may be a few but let's man up and be sensible, heading is a major part of the game, just as tackling is. Christmas is just around the corner, plenty of snowflakes then. We don't need them ruining our beautiful game now. Yip, what would doctors know about brain injuries Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Taking heading out of the game will ruin it although given the gather weight of medical evidence against it once it's gone no one will believe it was ever allowed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumhoilann 6,712 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Maybe the problem is wi the ball rather than the heading.The modern ball is hard as a rock where as years ago the ball was heavier but had a bit of give in it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueteeth 2,185 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 So giving the kids a heading helmet then? Why be surprised when people are approving over 100 gender selections, guys getting changed in female changing rooms in M&S and people trying to ban clapping. People go on about it being the Lefties fault, but this has all happened under a Conservative government, in charge since 2010. Either the Conservatives are allowing this bullshit to cross pollinate because they're not strong enough, or they support this type of shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue Legend 61,037 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 BBC Scotland main news had a big picture of Maradona’s Hand of God as a reference to this. Ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Hurlock Loyal 12,133 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 It will be televised with VR/augmented reality participation E-sports for the future generations. Physical contact sports like MMA, Boxing, Football and Rugby will change so dramatically that it will be impractical to develop the game - and will slide out of the public domain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue 9,282 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Moody Blue Legend said: BBC Scotland main news had a big picture of Maradona’s Hand of God as a reference to this. Ffs. I was gonna say the same, what a riddy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,024 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 There are 50million people in the world that suffer from dementia, the percentage of dementia sufferers that will have played football I would imagine would be a very minuscule percentage in the grand scheme of things. I think their is a lot of scaremongering going on over this, if you again think of the number of ex players that don't suffer from dementia then again the numbers will totally outweigh the percentage who do, it's a terrible illness which can be triggered by different things, to say heading a ball puts you at a greater risk is of no consolation the millions who will never have headed a football in their life. Interestingly this heading the ball debate has gathered pace since Billy (he knew) McNeill passed away, Frank Kopels wife had been campaigning for this for years now but never received this level of publicity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterD 7,430 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 If heading the ball causes issues later in life then banning heading at age ranges that 9/10 only head a ball from a throw in when there’s not much force pressing against the head won’t make any difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue 9,282 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 12 hours ago, hammer93 said: There are 50million people in the world that suffer from dementia, the percentage of dementia sufferers that will have played football I would imagine would be a very minuscule percentage in the grand scheme of things. I think their is a lot of scaremongering going on over this, if you again think of the number of ex players that don't suffer from dementia then again the numbers will totally outweigh the percentage who do, it's a terrible illness which can be triggered by different things, to say heading a ball puts you at a greater risk is of no compensation to the millions who will never have headed a football in their life. Interestingly this heading the ball debate has gathered pace since Billy (he knew) McNeill passed away, Frank Kopels wife had been campaigning for this for years now but never received this level of publicity. So so true, but he ”wuz a pure legend n’at”. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 On 28/10/2019 at 19:18, siddiqi_drinker said: then there were the occasions where you headed the laces 😮 - mouldemasters were the best invention ever -- well except when they smacked you on the thigh on a freezing cold day. Sorry mate, I'll only slap your thighs on those summer days from now on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 15 hours ago, hammer93 said: There are 50million people in the world that suffer from dementia, the percentage of dementia sufferers that will have played football I would imagine would be a very minuscule percentage in the grand scheme of things. I think their is a lot of scaremongering going on over this, if you again think of the number of ex players that don't suffer from dementia then again the numbers will totally outweigh the percentage who do, it's a terrible illness which can be triggered by different things, to say heading a ball puts you at a greater risk is of no compensation to the millions who will never have headed a football in their life. Interestingly this heading the ball debate has gathered pace since Billy (he knew) McNeill passed away, Frank Kopels wife had been campaigning for this for years now but never received this level of publicity. There are millions of people in the world who unfortunately fall ill to cancer. Very few if them will have been exposed to Chernobyl levels of uranium poisoning. Does not mean that uranium is safe. What you have to look at is the % of people in general that suffer an illness compared to the % in the group you are studying. Obviously with radiation poisoning, the cancer rates will be far higher. I've not looked into it, but from what I have head, the rates of footballers with these brain illnesses are higher than the normal rate, which is worth looking at. Gut feeling is that I agree with the proposal, but would have to investigate the findings of the survey to be more confident. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluekev 43,202 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 I think it's a bit late for the SFA to start thinking about the welfare of kids. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin 13,594 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 The sanctimonious bastards who turned a blind eye to child abuse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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