The Dude 20,026 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, Thermopylae said: Roman catholicism is the biggest and most powerful religion in Europe the thought that it needs protection from uefa is laughable It's not just RC, it's every religion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Just now, pollok-bear said: I'm not debating that mate. I just feel the world we live in now is a joke. 100%. It is the world we live in though, so we have to at least try to live in it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, pollok-bear said: It's the most evil religion in the world and uses its power to control everything. Brain washes cunts to the max. Offended by everything and wants to divide themselves from everyone who arent a catholic. Perhaps it's just the price we have to pay for being attached to a mostly catholic continent? tbh I would say to any Bear on these trips cut it out because we have worked too hard to throw it all away for a couple of songs but I still think it's obscene for uefa to be defending the vatican Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddistonKnight 1,567 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 minute ago, 2nd Flute said: Mate, honestly, I'm an auld Loyalist, but the fact that Rangers fans, watching Steven Gerrards team, our team, getting a great result against Feyenoord, need to sing about the pope and Catholicism is laughable You think like this because you are a sensible adult. We have enough great songs without scrapping the bottom o the barrel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,824 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, pollok-bear said: It's the most evil religion in the world and uses its power to control everything. Brain washes cunts to the max. Offended by everything and wants to divide themselves from everyone who arent a catholic. I think there is a far more evil religion than RC in today's world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, The Dude said: It's not just RC, it's every religion. Yes but they can't make out as if they are defending the weak and vulnerable when it's the roman church Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 minute ago, gogzy said: The law is an ass when it comes to things like this. You're right, but it shouldn't be that way. It's a difficult one for me because (without going TOO far OT) everyone should have the right to choose whatever religion they wish with being abused for it but people also must absolutely have the right to oppose said religion. Although, not sure fitting 'fuck the pope' to a pop song would ever really fit that second one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Thermopylae said: Yes but they can't make out as if they are defending the weak and vulnerable when it's the roman church They aren't doing that, they are just saying everyone has theright to choose a religion without being abused for it at a fitba game. You can't sing 'fuck the pope' in the pictures, why would you sing it at a fitba game in Holland? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, The Dude said: They aren't doing that, they are just saying everyone has theright to choose a religion without being abused for it at a fitba game. You can't sing 'fuck the pope' in the pictures, why would you sing it at a fitba game in Holland? But we abuse the church not the people Sectarianism is a big part of life in this part of the world ... we even have sectarian schools thanks to oh yes the catholic church Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, pollok-bear said: I'm not debating that mate. I just feel the world we live in now is a joke. How so? Do you think Islamists should be allowed to preach their hatred of 'infidels' on our streets? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Just now, Thermopylae said: But we abuse the church not the people But by attachment you're abusing the people. And again, it's a fitba game in holland which you've been told for the last 20 years could hurt the club. This season we've been punished several times for it. Is your hatred of the catholic church more important than the club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Thermopylae said: But we abuse the church not the people Sectarianism is a big part of life in this part of the world ... we even have sectarian schools thanks to oh yes the catholic church Sectarianism is a big part of life (not as big as many portray it tbh) but that doesn't mean that it's acceptable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, The Dude said: But by attachment you're abusing the people. And again, it's a fitba game in holland which you've been told for the last 20 years could hurt the club. This season we've been punished several times for it. Is your hatred of the catholic church more important than the club? Well you can say that about abusing anything that has people attached. I did make the point earlier if I was there I would tell them to cut it out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, The Dude said: Sectarianism is a big part of life (not as big as many portray it tbh) but that doesn't mean that it's acceptable. Why it is not acceptable to dislike the vatican? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Just now, Thermopylae said: Well you can say that about abusing anything that has people attached. I did make the point earlier if I was there I would tell them to cut it out You can, abusing Rangers FC can be seen as anti-Rangers, attacking the Orange Order can be seen as Anti-OO an attack of the Church of Scotland can be seen as anti-protestant/presbyterian. That doesn't take away from the fact that we have been told since last century to chuck it or it's going to hurt us and people still persist. Whatever you, I or anyone else think about the RC church, the Wee Frees, the Buddhist, the Moonies or any other religion, it is utterly irrelevant to UEFA. They view anything discriminatory as falling under their anti-racism rules. If you (not you literally) don't like it don't go to UEFA games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd Flute 14,036 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Thermopylae said: Why it is not acceptable to dislike the vatican? Jesus wept,It is acceptable, just don't sing about it inside a stadium where Rangers are playing, or it, under UEFA rules, like them or loathe them, will seriously damage Rangers!!!!! Aye? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, Thermopylae said: Why it is not acceptable to dislike the vatican? You ca dislike it all you want but disliking the vatican isn't sectarian in and of itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendofCoop 17,273 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 2 hours ago, The Dude said: Of course it's targeted. It's a Scottish-regional news section of a UK news website. It's always going to be presented as a Rangers-focused story as there aren't likely hordes of Feyenoord fans checking BBC Scotland for news Scottish-regional news section of a UK news website reporting trouble with Dutch fans??? You don't see anything wrong or misguided in this? Hmmmm...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Bin this nonsesne. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,436 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Blue Avenger said: So we have 12 pages of back stabbng roasters on sectarian singing, based on nothing but speculation. At least they're outed. I rest my case. I fail to see how when the club, the manager and the UEFA rules ask us not to sing it or the team will face punishment that criticising it makes it ‘back stabbing’. No one is naming names or identifying them. The ones doing the signing of banned songs are the ones doing the real damage. It’s not speculation. It’s been confirmed by a number of Rangers people at the game. If UEFA act on it is another issue. I don’t think people not wanting these songs being sung for fear of a stadium closure or worse is being ‘outed’. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, LegendofCoop said: Scottish-regional news section of a UK news website reporting trouble with Dutch fans??? You don't see anything wrong or misguided in this? Hmmmm...... Its not just Dutch fans though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,457 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Got boring as fuck this now. Same posts getting made over and over Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,436 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Just now, ForeverAndEver said: Got boring as fuck this now. Same posts getting made over and over Bit like singing banned songs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,457 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: Bit like singing banned songs. When was the last time a banned song was sung? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_r_sole 366 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Depressing stuff, do we get a refund on the tickets if uefa close the ground? Not sure why it's so difficult to understand what you can and can't sing without getting the club into trouble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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