Thermopylae 15,286 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 No matter how good our football is if we don't have this we will never win anything. The truth is we just never looked the same team after conceding and that is a worry ... I think the next 2 games will tell us a lot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 70,938 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Yes. Have done for ages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted December 5, 2019 Author Share Posted December 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Yes. Have done for ages. Perhaps it's the one thing that you just can't buy? I do know that the history of football is littered with teams who play the beautiful game and yet don't win much because they just don't have the mental toughness to do the business when it really maters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa6995 3,620 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Yes we do, we also lack quality in important areas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stunels 1,171 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Certain players lack in a winning mentality, I guess this is similar to what you mean by killer instinct? Because Morelos certainly has killer instinct in front of goal. Its players like Tav, serial losers, who worry me the most when it comes to instinct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaunchLondonGer 1,651 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 55 minutes ago, Thermopylae said: I do know that the history of football is littered with teams who play the beautiful game and yet don't win much because they just don't have the mental toughness to do the business when it really maters Or in any sport tbh. Colin Montgomerie in golf (5 times runner up in majors); Jimmy White in snooker (7 time runner up at World Championship). Hugely gifted bottle merchants sadly. We have mental toughness in the team. You can see the hunger in Kent & Morelos particularly. Those guys believe in themselves 100% and, just as important, believe they can be winners this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,438 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Killer instinct- no attacking important areas - yes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I dont think we have a true leader on the park nor a core of players with that born belief they are winners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaunchLondonGer 1,651 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Thermopylae said: Perhaps it's the one thing that you just can't buy? Yeah, agreed. I don't think you can buy it. So it's up to the manager to identify the players that DO have the mental toughness and bring them forward whilst gently pulling back the guy who simply doesn't have the ability to rally the troops and lead by example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,287 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 At 2-0, we were top of the league. I think it lasted all of about 15 minutes. So I will say yes we do lack the killer instinct. Other than McGregor and Davis, no-one has tasted success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 We lack a killer, never mind instinct. We need the midfield general who takes no prisoners. Good ability, but cynical, with the badness running through him. Let it rub off on the others and those not showing a spine can fuck off. Slap those two girl's blouses in central defence. They'd never be off the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrick 8,048 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 We all need to be at it or we toil , situations like the second half last night when we’re having a stinker nobody can pull something out the bag individually to win us the game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Shaw 30,120 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said: We lack a killer, never mind instinct. We need the midfield general who takes no prisoners. Good ability, but cynical, with the badness running through him. Let it rub off on the others and those not showing a spine can fuck off. Slap those two girl's blouses in central defence. They'd never be off the bench. What I would give for a player like this in our midfield again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Devil 350 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I know it has been covered in other threads but we look much tougher, mentally, with Katic at the back. Yes, he has made the odd mistake but the mentality looks better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangerswuls 60 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 we lack passion, attitude, leadership, ability a winning mentality, how do we get that fuck knows but we need to get it for sunday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 We lack leaders. We lack fight. We're playing a first eleven week in and week out that is at least 2 or 3 men down. The manager and the other 7 or 8 players must be amazing considering we're 2 points off the mental strength champions of the world, in 2 cups and a home draw away from the next round of the second biggest club competition in Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, Tiger Shaw said: What I would give for a player like this in our midfield again Aye, that's THE man! No cunt is bullying us with that in the team! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Shaw 30,120 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Just now, Blue Avenger said: Aye, that's THE man! No cunt is bullying us with that in the team! Shame they don’t make them like Souness anymore mate and even if they did in the modern game he’d end up spending more time in the stands than on the pitch through suspension. We can dream though 😆 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurrayWilson 3,269 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 The player who should be the leader is always youre captain. Unfortunately our captain isn't and never will be a leader. If we had rightfully been given that penalty its even money that he would even have scored it under the pressure. He isn't maybe as bad a player as some make out but you would be doing him a favour taking the captaincy off him, its too heavy a burden for him. Youre either cut out for it or you aren't. Not picking on him specifically but he perfectly epitomises whats wrong mentally with the whole team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumhoilann 6,712 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 23 minutes ago, Tiger Shaw said: What I would give for a player like this in our midfield again While I agree wi the sentiment,can you imagine the red cards Souness would get in today's game? He'd end up in BarL,lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalfollower 1,543 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 We lack a player or 2 that no matter how poor of a game they’re having they never hide. A player like Baz- even if he was having a poor game he would still let others know if they weren’t doing their own jobs. That’s what captains and winners do. Now and I don’t like singling out or players but when Davis is having an off game or goldson all I seem to see is heads down and looking for the easy way out. I don’t see this hard working grafter in the middle that keeps trying to keep the standards high, I rarely see a player that demands the ball when the going gets tough. Barry Ferguson, Ian Ferguson, Stuart McCall would’ve relished that game last night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,592 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 We need a Richard Gough we have pretenders just now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,242 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Game management more than killer instinct imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandblue 366 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I think Bertent is right. When things aren’t going well we have nobody to take command and kick arses. Last night Jack was awful and Davis and Arfield disappeared for about 20 minutes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue 9,282 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 We lack a sheer will to win. We won’t play great football for 90mins or every game but our previous title winning teams would have got 3pts last night, even if dragged back to 2-2, we would have still gotten it over the line. Also, sick of any pish suggesting it’s a tough away fixture, they are gash with zero tactics other than punt and rush and we got dragged down to their level. We should have murdered them last night and in a tight title race you just cannot give up points like that. It wasn’t from anything they did or create, we fucked it up. There’s clearly lots of positives this season and we are much stronger but SG’s inability to change things when it’s going against us is bordering on Warburton now. Drop the offenders, kick their arses big style, stop persevering with shite bags when we need to tough games out and make the captain someone who won’t accept second best cos he can still drive his Lambo home whatever the result. Don’t even need to go as far back as Souness, Barry and Fernando as captains wouldn’t have accepted that shite last night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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