Spencer65 83 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Are we so blind that we cannot see......unfathomable why people can't see that Tav isn't a leader.......he was reasonable today but has let us down defensively repeatedly. I honestly think people are blinded by the way he got everything his own way in championship. It's different now.....he has to do more defensively. in any case we have many areas on the park we can improve on and Mayo Barjonas Dickson Kelly and Edmundson should be filtered into the team as I believe they are better than those currently in front of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,701 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Spencer65 said: Are we so blind that we cannot see......unfathomable why people can't see that Tav isn't a leader.......he was reasonable today but has let us down defensively repeatedly. I honestly think people are blinded by the way he got everything his own way in championship. It's different now.....he has to do more defensively. in any case we have many areas on the park we can improve on and Mayo Barjonas Dickson Kelly and Edmundson should be filtered into the team as I believe they are better than those currently in front of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanjo 26,327 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Said it before. I love Tav and he's integral to what we do. He is one of our better players... but a captain he is not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkirkNS 6,298 Posted December 8, 2019 Author Share Posted December 8, 2019 Jack fucked his knee in that last ditch.. look sore wan, looked like he should have cane off... he was telling Gerrard was he fuck coming off... Helander was caught on the foot and couldn't wait to come off. Tgats the difference folks... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jintybear 8,536 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 27 minutes ago, falkirkNS said: How long do we wait until jacko is Captain? It may just rejuvenate tavernier? That picture has brought a tear to my eyes. He is feeling why we are. Definitely future captain material. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blues 375 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Tav had a good game today. The penalty thing was strange but. I thought we had that worked out. It wasn’t a friendly or end of season game. Why have a new penalty taker unless this had already been decided in training. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer65 83 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, DBBTB said: You will not be saying that when we win the caramel wafer cup😀 But seriously I watch most of the development games and I honestly beleve they are better than what's on show...btw I missed out the right back I think it's patterson. personally I would rather play these guys who are regular winners than the limited players we have in first team. Then again some on here didn't think Barry ferguson shouldnt been given a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, jintybear said: That picture has brought a tear to my eyes. He is feeling why we are. Definitely future captain material. That picture changed my mind completely on him being captain.......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper 155 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 26 minutes ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said: Why the fuck do people repeatedly want to destabilize the club but changing captains midway through a season? Absolute mind-boggingly moronic. Ask the players if they want to change the captain - can't imagine there'd be many takers. You can have multiple leaders in a dressing room who lead in similar or different ways - no need to be Julius Caesaring cunts left right and centre. What’s “mind-boggingly moronic“ is how tav was given the fucking armband in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrblue1 2,042 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Just now, Spencer65 said: You will not be saying that when we win the caramel wafer cup😀 But seriously I watch most of the development games and I honestly beleve they are better than what's on show...btw I missed out the right back I think it's patterson. personally I would rather play these guys who are regular winners than the limited players we have in first team. Then again some on here didn't think Barry ferguson shouldnt been given a chance. Was the internet even a thing when Barry Ferguson got a chance? 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthranger 3,861 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I’m sorry but blaming solely Tav is a bit of a joke here. He had a solid game and has clearly been dropped from penalty taking duties after missing 3 or so this season. I’m by no means a big fan of his, but he’s one of several leaders we have that could’ve made the call on that penalty. Not 1 of Jack, Arfield, Barisic etc even asked for the ball or looked keen for it. If I was a senior playing in that dressing room, I’m straight over there to give Tav another option than let Alfie take it when we know his heads gone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 29 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: See if Jack (or anyone) isn’t already leading the team then they’re not captain material. You don’t need the armband to be a leader. You don’t gain superleader powers by wearing it either. Every game we lose our right back gets the blame, as if we shift a bit of elastic to another mans arm we’d suddenly transform. Spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrup1984 25,100 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Spencer65 said: You will not be saying that when we win the caramel wafer cup😀 But seriously I watch most of the development games and I honestly beleve they are better than what's on show...btw I missed out the right back I think it's patterson. personally I would rather play these guys who are regular winners than the limited players we have in first team. Then again some on here didn't think Barry ferguson shouldnt been given a chance. Who would the 5 players you mentioned replace in our current first team out of interest? Also, Barry Ferguson was probably a 1 in a generation, sadly. That said, we do have a lot of young talent coming through. Hopefully they prove to be good enough. If we even get one player though i'll be delighted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrupsleftfoot 10,763 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 28 minutes ago, TMB said: What effect would it have to strip Tavernier of the captaincy halfway through the season? Fucking nothing but a negative one on the squad, albeit appeasing a large and growing handful of cunts on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sRcFoCt 7,637 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, plymouthranger said: I’m sorry but blaming solely Tav is a bit of a joke here. He had a solid game and has clearly been dropped from penalty taking duties after missing 3 or so this season. I’m by no means a big fan of his, but he’s one of several leaders we have that could’ve made the call on that penalty. Not 1 of Jack, Arfield, Barisic etc even asked for the ball or looked keen for it. If I was a senior playing in that dressing room, I’m straight over there to give Tav another option than let Alfie take it when we know his heads gone People are blaming tav because he shat it big time against them any passionate captain would want to put them to the sword. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rum Ham 2,059 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I love Tav, but to hand the penalty to anyone on that pitch, when you're meant to be number one is brutal. Tav played well, everyone did from where I was sitting, but in the last 20 mins, especially with the taigs down to ten, we did not look like we wanted it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrupsleftfoot 10,763 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jasper said: What’s “mind-boggingly moronic“ is how tav was given the fucking armband in the first place. Why's that then? Many if not most on here wanted Jack shipped on never mind having the team built round him. Tav was one of the first names if not the first on the teamsheet. Time and again when players are interviewed they point towards Tav being the man on the pitch and behind the scenes who leads them. If he wasn't seen as a leader in the group he wouldn't be captain it's that fucking simple. @graeme_4 has said all that needs to be said on this, you don't need the fucking armband to be a leader and team can and should have multiple leaders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, sRcFoCt said: People are blaming tav because he shat it big time against them any passionate captain would want to put them to the sword. He never “shat it”. Tavernier was one of the best players on the pitch. Probably thee best from the wide areas. Done his defensive duties well and was our main attacking force driving us forward on the right. Morelos was the designated penalty taker which is what most on here wanted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,645 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 45 minutes ago, falkirkNS said: How long do we wait until jacko is Captain? It may just rejuvenate tavernier? Even though we lost, I somehow love this picture. Says it all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrblue1 2,042 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said: Why's that then? Many if not most on here wanted Jack shipped on never mind having the team built round him. Tav was one of the first names if not the first on the teamsheet. Time and again when players are interviewed they point towards Tav being the man on the pitch and behind the scenes who leads them. If he wasn't seen as a leader in the group he wouldn't be captain it's that fucking simple. @graeme_4 has said all that needs to be said on this, you don't need the fucking armband to be a leader and team can and should have multiple leaders. 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer65 83 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, Ayrblue1 said: Was the internet even a thing when Barry Ferguson got a chance? 😂 No fair play but my general theme is we don't give youth a chance when we have limited players in the first team. The worst example was when McCoist played john Daly etc in bottom division and didn't give any youngsters a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrick 8,048 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 46 minutes ago, falkirkNS said: How long do we wait until jacko is Captain? It may just rejuvenate tavernier? Ye saw Barry Ferguson and Richard Gough etc greeting into Walters shoulder like that all the time eh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrblue1 2,042 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Just now, Spencer65 said: No fair play but my general theme is we don't give youth a chance when we have limited players in the first team. The worst example was when McCoist played john Daly etc in bottom division and didn't give any youngsters a chance. Naw I know mate a wasn’t haven’t a dig at ye buddy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sRcFoCt 7,637 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Just now, TMB said: He never “shat it”. Tavernier was one of the best players on the pitch. Probably thee best from the wide areas. Done his defensive duties well and was our main attacking force driving us forward on the right. Morelos was the designated penalty taker which is what most on here wanted. Wrong he shat it any captain from any great era from Rangers would have said "I'M FUCKING TAKING IT" 1-0 down call on leaders to win the game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, sRcFoCt said: Wrong he shat it any captain from any great era from Rangers would have said "I'M FUCKING TAKING IT" 1-0 down call on leaders to win the game But it was decided prior to the match that Morelos was the designated penalty taker. You’re desperately trying to blame Tavernier for something when in fact he wasn’t at fault and had a very good game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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