GeeSS 512 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 10 hours ago, Scottywellhousetb said: Nicky Clark mk2 , sick of listening and reading about how we should go for this goal scoring machine, just hope Barcelona drop their interest and we are not forced into a bidding war for this Scottish messi. This guy is on a different planet to Nicky Clark he has an unbelievable goal scoring record far superior to Clark his all round game is very good too he should have been signed for free in summer he will end up down south now This boat has sailed He will go down as one who got away. I am sick of the Clark comparison they are night and day remember Clark’s goals were a one season wonder in the 3rd tier Shanklands are now over 3seasons in second tier Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeSS 512 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 9 hours ago, Brubear said: Simple question for Spence, how many goals has shankland scored in Europe or the top flight in Scotland. Answer, none on both counts so dont even mention him in the same sentence as Morelos. Of course if United meet the tarriers in the cup and Shankland scores he will then be the real deal and better than Morelos using tarrier logic. What a stupid post Morelos hadn’t scored in Europe or in top flight in Scotland until we signed him and he was given the opportunity ! Morelos was a gamble that has paid off beyond our wildest dreams and he was an expensive gamble at that costing1m Shankland should have been signed for free in summer but now will cost over 1m Btw. He also has same goals as Morelos at international level now in less appearances Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,841 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, GeeSS said: This guy is on a different planet to Nicky Clark he has an unbelievable goal scoring record far superior to Clark his all round game is very good too he should have been signed for free in summer he will end up down south now This boat has sailed He will go down as one who got away. I am sick of the Clark comparison they are night and day remember Clark’s goals were a one season wonder in the 3rd tier Shanklands are now over 3seasons in second tier His all round game isn't very good and it's why he'd never oust either Alfie from the starting kine up or defoe from the bench. These 2 are light years ahead in every department Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,841 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Just now, GeeSS said: What a stupid post Morelos hadn’t scored in Europe or in top flight in Scotland until we signed him and he was given the opportunity ! Morelos was a gamble that has paid off beyond our wildest dreams and he was an expensive gamble at that costing1m Shankland should have been signed for free in summer but now will cost over 1m Btw. He also has same goals as Morelos at international level now in less appearances Was against San Marino. Colombia don't play sides of that high a standard Stick to your free plasticine shite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeSS 512 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Rfc52 said: Was against San Marino. Colombia don't play sides of that high a standard Stick to your free plasticine shite What???? Are you for real!!! Give me a list of the last 10 opponents Columbia have played???? Your knowledge of football is very minuscule Did you play the game at any level? I am bc not saying Shankland is as good as Morelos for gods sake what I am saying is we should have taken the gamble when he was available Morelos was a massive gamble and has paid off big time We need to take these low risk gambles some will work out some won’t but you won’t know until you try Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATP-FOREVER 5,231 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 The SG management team have made half decent players into very good players. Ryan Jack is now the 2nd/3rd best midfielder in the country. Tav has got better, Barisic, Goldson, Katic, Morelos, Kent, Arfield - our entire squad has improved under SG. With that, I would have taken a punt on Shankland, definitely when he was a freebee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeSS 512 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, Rfc52 said: His all round game isn't very good and it's why he'd never oust either Alfie from the starting kine up or defoe from the bench. These 2 are light years ahead in every department Have you seen him? His all round game is good. He is not comparable to Morelos totally different type of player And defoe is a great finisher although I don’t think his Akron’s game is great he makes up for it with his experience and finishing. shanklands game is similar in my opinion to McCoist there is a lot of similar traits Look I am not saying he is as good as any of these players my point is we missed the boat with this guy he was a very low risk gamble in the summer that’s when we should have moved. Morelos is out next 3 games. If Defoe get an injury we are fucked we need 3 strikers every team does Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Shankland just won’t represent good value now. Dundee Utd went all-in to get promotion and they won’t sell him at anything close to a decent price, especially to us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,841 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, GeeSS said: Have you seen him? His all round game is good. He is not comparable to Morelos totally different type of player And defoe is a great finisher although I don’t think his Akron’s game is great he makes up for it with his experience and finishing. shanklands game is similar in my opinion to McCoist there is a lot of similar traits Look I am not saying he is as good as any of these players my point is we missed the boat with this guy he was a very low risk gamble in the summer that’s when we should have moved. Morelos is out next 3 games. If Defoe get an injury we are fucked we need 3 strikers every team does Aye I've seen him. He offers nothing that would suit this Rangers set up. We play a high intensity, high pressing system that requires players to be fit and be able to chase, harrass, turn players, create from nothing, interchanging of the forward 3. He doesn't have any of that in his locker, a daft sub to throw on with 10 mins to go needing a goal, aye then he'd possibly do well but as an all round striker for how we play or what we need then no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,841 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 44 minutes ago, GeeSS said: What???? Are you for real!!! Give me a list of the last 10 opponents Columbia have played???? Your knowledge of football is very minuscule Did you play the game at any level? I am bc not saying Shankland is as good as Morelos for gods sake what I am saying is we should have taken the gamble when he was available Morelos was a massive gamble and has paid off big time We need to take these low risk gambles some will work out some won’t but you won’t know until you try Aye, played pro youth till I was 18, played top level amateur for near on 11 year after that. Here's who alfies caps are against btw Mr football knowledge On 28 August 2018, Morelos received his first call-up to the Colombian senior national team for the friendly matches against Venezuela and Argentina.[70] He made his international debut on 8 September 2018, coming on as a 77th minute substitute against Venezuela. He missed an open goal on 83 minutes, but then in the last minute provided an assist for Yimmi Chará's winning goal for Colombia.[71][72][73] He made a further two appearances in March 2019 in friendlies against Japan and South Korea, making his first international start against the latter side.[74][75] He was not named in the 40-man preliminary squad announced on 16 May for 2019 Copa America, with several media outlets speculating his poor on-field discipline at club level in Scotland contributed to his omission.[76][77] Morelos scored his first international goal on 15 November 2019 in a friendly during injury time against Peru as Colombia won the match by 1–0.[78]. No exactly San Marino and Russia right enough. This is a boy who had 17 top flight games and scored 0 goals. He also struggled nearly everywhere till for whatever reason it clicked at Ayr utd for him. He's had two good seasons in his career this one and his last one. I watched him.very closely vs us last season as I wanted to know what the fuss was and it was over very little. Keep reading how pish Goldson is on here and yet "shanks" as the sun kept reffering to him yesterday, couldn't get a sniff from him. I wish the boy nothing but success bar if he goes to the taigs or where he is now as he sat next to me at the Motherwell away play off defeat in the Motherwell end hoping like me that day to see us turn it around. A good bluenose doing well is always good to see, but he isn't good enough for us at this point in his career and he doesn't fit into how we play at present. Slight edit, you could say 3 good seasons as he hit double figures for queen's Park which got him a move to Aberdeen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbear 10,913 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Rfc52 said: Aye, played pro youth till I was 18, played top level amateur for near on 11 year after that. Here's who alfies caps are against btw Mr football knowledge On 28 August 2018, Morelos received his first call-up to the Colombian senior national team for the friendly matches against Venezuela and Argentina.[70] He made his international debut on 8 September 2018, coming on as a 77th minute substitute against Venezuela. He missed an open goal on 83 minutes, but then in the last minute provided an assist for Yimmi Chará's winning goal for Colombia.[71][72][73] He made a further two appearances in March 2019 in friendlies against Japan and South Korea, making his first international start against the latter side.[74][75] He was not named in the 40-man preliminary squad announced on 16 May for 2019 Copa America, with several media outlets speculating his poor on-field discipline at club level in Scotland contributed to his omission.[76][77] Morelos scored his first international goal on 15 November 2019 in a friendly during injury time against Peru as Colombia won the match by 1–0.[78]. No exactly San Marino and Russia right enough. This is a boy who had 17 top flight games and scored 0 goals. He also struggled nearly everywhere till for whatever reason it clicked at Ayr utd for him. He's had two good seasons in his career this one and his last one. I watched him.very closely vs us last season as I wanted to know what the fuss was and it was over very little. Keep reading how pish Goldson is on here and yet "shanks" as the sun kept reffering to him yesterday, couldn't get a sniff from him. I wish the boy nothing but success bar if he goes to the taigs or where he is now as he sat next to me at the Motherwell away play off defeat in the Motherwell end hoping like me that day to see us turn it around. A good bluenose doing well is always good to see, but he isn't good enough for us at this point in his career and he doesn't fit into how we play at present. Slight edit, you could say 3 good seasons as he hit double figures for queen's Park which got him a move to Aberdeen Mon the Statto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Shaw 30,463 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 @GeeSS You need a new ball mate 😆 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 The time to gamble on Shankland was last year when he left Ayr - I'd say there is maybe a 40% chance he signs, comes on a bit as a players and is a successful signing - Worth a punt if the price was low enough. The lad has something, but it would be a risk spending comparative big bucks on him just now. His stock is high and he would surely be looking at £1.5m or there about. He was a relatively low risk signing 12mths ago, and paying any sort of 7 figure fee for somebody unproven wouldn't be wise IMO - it might be something we live to regret, but (more probably) it is a David Goodwillie type swerve. With guys like Shankland, I think a lot of the question is mentality. If he can mentally make the step from being the best player at a smaller club, to a club where winning every week is the expectation - and any hint of laziness or small mistakes will have 50,000 on your back. Lesser players have made the step just by having the right stuff between the ears, and being able to move up a level when the move came. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMe 25,327 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Shankland is nowhere near good enough for us now and neither is Hickey - another who is regularly mentioned on here for some reason. Both would've been worth the risk and good championship signings or even decent signings for our first season back in the premier league, but they wouldn't/shouldn't make bench of a team fighting for the league/cups and in Europe. Shankland would need Morelos, Defoe and Stewart to be injured or suspended at the same time to even get near our team and Hickey would need the same with Barisic, Flanagan and Halliday. Flanagan and Halliday are both pish and we need better btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeSS 512 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 58 minutes ago, pcbear said: Mon the Statto. He had two good season at Ayr prior to joining Dundee u ntb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthranger 3,872 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 He’s too lazy to fit into Gerard’s style of play. Scores a lot of goals but would he come here to be 3rd choice!m? You might as well sign Stephen Dobbie if you want a poacher for injury cover (who’d walk over broken glass to come back to Ibrox) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,522 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 14 hours ago, BridgeIsBlue said: I wish that prick would get a real haircut. Looks like something out the Muppets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 3 hours ago, GeeSS said: This guy is on a different planet to Nicky Clark he has an unbelievable goal scoring record far superior to Clark his all round game is very good too he should have been signed for free in summer he will end up down south now This boat has sailed He will go down as one who got away. I am sick of the Clark comparison they are night and day remember Clark’s goals were a one season wonder in the 3rd tier Shanklands are now over 3seasons in second tier I will always just think of Clark costing us the SCF .and all the hurt and fall out . The image of him, just coming on as a sub , flaffing around with the ball , losing it and not being arsed to track back in those final few seconds ,will stay with me forever . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JograBear 1,074 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 14 hours ago, Rlm said: Is this guy worth a punt, for backup..,? We have Morelos, Defoe and Stewart all fighting for one position. Do we need backup? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlippinEck 3,705 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Rfc52 said: Aye, played pro youth till I was 18, played top level amateur for near on 11 year after that. Here's who alfies caps are against btw Mr football knowledge On 28 August 2018, Morelos received his first call-up to the Colombian senior national team for the friendly matches against Venezuela and Argentina.[70] He made his international debut on 8 September 2018, coming on as a 77th minute substitute against Venezuela. He missed an open goal on 83 minutes, but then in the last minute provided an assist for Yimmi Chará's winning goal for Colombia.[71][72][73] He made a further two appearances in March 2019 in friendlies against Japan and South Korea, making his first international start against the latter side.[74][75] He was not named in the 40-man preliminary squad announced on 16 May for 2019 Copa America, with several media outlets speculating his poor on-field discipline at club level in Scotland contributed to his omission.[76][77] Morelos scored his first international goal on 15 November 2019 in a friendly during injury time against Peru as Colombia won the match by 1–0.[78]. No exactly San Marino and Russia right enough. This is a boy who had 17 top flight games and scored 0 goals. He also struggled nearly everywhere till for whatever reason it clicked at Ayr utd for him. He's had two good seasons in his career this one and his last one. I watched him.very closely vs us last season as I wanted to know what the fuss was and it was over very little. Keep reading how pish Goldson is on here and yet "shanks" as the sun kept reffering to him yesterday, couldn't get a sniff from him. I wish the boy nothing but success bar if he goes to the taigs or where he is now as he sat next to me at the Motherwell away play off defeat in the Motherwell end hoping like me that day to see us turn it around. A good bluenose doing well is always good to see, but he isn't good enough for us at this point in his career and he doesn't fit into how we play at present. Slight edit, you could say 3 good seasons as he hit double figures for queen's Park which got him a move to Aberdeen He had 4 in 6 in Europe for Helsinki too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Even if he was good enough to develop at us, when will he do it, he wouldn't get a game and just stagnate in the reserves etc We're lucky that defoe is the professional he is and has had the career he had, imagine we had a different striker who had a good fee years ahead of him as backup to morelos, they'd be kicking the door down wanting games, maybe disrupting the morale etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
northern bear 2,881 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 4 hours ago, GeeSS said: What a stupid post Morelos hadn’t scored in Europe or in top flight in Scotland until we signed him and he was given the opportunity ! Morelos was a gamble that has paid off beyond our wildest dreams and he was an expensive gamble at that costing1m Shankland should have been signed for free in summer but now will cost over 1m Btw. He also has same goals as Morelos at international level now in less appearances Calm doon Jim Spence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 4 hours ago, GeeSS said: What a stupid post Morelos hadn’t scored in Europe or in top flight in Scotland until we signed him and he was given the opportunity ! Morelos was a gamble that has paid off beyond our wildest dreams and he was an expensive gamble at that costing1m Shankland should have been signed for free in summer but now will cost over 1m Btw. He also has same goals as Morelos at international level now in less appearances Morelos had scored in Europe before joining us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,841 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 21 minutes ago, The Dude said: Morelos had scored in Europe before joining us. However he hasn't scored against San marino senior side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbob1969 1,459 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 15 hours ago, King Jela said: He'll sign for the tims Don't think that lad would ever sign for them to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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