Junior Soprano 22,428 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Prso's headband said: I’ve been to every domestic game this season and 4 out of 7 away games in Europe, but that today was hopeless. If you think a Rangers team can go 1-0 up at Tynecastle and still lose the game is ok then you’re the one with the issue. That is nowhere near good enough for any Rangers team going for the league What’s that got to do with what gerrard said?, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurrayWilson 3,269 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Bluekev said: Flanagan was no worse than Davis, Kamara, Aribo, but when they start midweek no one will say anything. Davis has been invisible in the last 2 games and Aribo has done fuck all too and I think sometimes we wasted 50k on Kamara because on days like today he cost us a goal through sloppiness and never looked interested. Flanagan isn't good enough and that's why he's cover but the "regulars" should be blamed for today before him. The point is Flanagan is poor every time he plays and we had better options available. Granted the other 3 you mention were all piss poor today also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 34,985 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, Junior Soprano said: What’s that got to do with what gerrard said?, I quoted you when you said the amount of arseholes that never go to a game and talk absolute wank on here is ridiculous. Nothing to do with what Gerrard said... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,358 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 1 hour ago, BlueMe said: In what way does he look completely lost? He picked the team / formation, i get that, but at the same time, that's the same team (bar a couple of changes) that beat celtic at home and got us to the Europa league knockouts- the players let him us and themselves down today and bottled it, they deserve the criticism, not the manager. Flanagan shouldn't have started, which was a mistake by Gerrard, but he was rightly subbed at half-time. Kamara was rightly subbed because he was shite, even if Ojo was the wrong replacement, you could still see Gerrards thinking behind it after the state of Jones against Stranraer. And Arfield was a good sub to make. Gerrard moved aribo into centre mid, that was another mistake today, Davis played the full 90, another mistake Defoe was asked to play the morelos role, thats another mistake We have no width from our wingers, theres another mistake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueVanguard 6,399 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 What i want to hear is " next year the team will not be going to dubai on a nice winter training camp, We will be training in pish weather down Largs to keep the boys grounded ". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,358 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, MurrayWilson said: The point is Flanagan is poor every time he plays and we had better options available. Granted the other 3 you mention were all piss poor today also. Whos the better option than flanagan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 34,985 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Gerrard moved aribo into centre mid, that was another mistake today, Davis played the full 90, another mistake Defoe was asked to play the morelos role, thats another mistake We have no width from our wingers, theres another mistake I agree, for what seems like the 8th game in a row Aribo was our best player and he’s asked to play out of position again. Davis again, very poor. The whole teams boots the ball up the park like Morelos is going to buy us 20-30yards, not going to happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMe 25,327 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Gerrard moved aribo into centre mid, that was another mistake today, Davis played the full 90, another mistake Defoe was asked to play the morelos role, thats another mistake We have no width from our wingers, theres another mistake Moving Aribo into his natural position was a mistake? Davis wouldn't have played the full 90 if we didn't have to waste a sub at half time on Flanagan. Who else would you play instead of Defoe when Morelos is suspended and Stewart was injured? We don't play with wingers, our width comes from our fullbacks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurrayWilson 3,269 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Whos the better option than flanagan? Clearly polster looked far better when he came on and Paterson most would agree is better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corkinator 611 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Hearts are dreadful, really dreadful! We lost to them! Ffs it’s unbearable tbh! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Soprano 22,428 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, Prso's headband said: I quoted you when you said the amount of arseholes that never go to a game and talk absolute wank on here is ridiculous. Nothing to do with what Gerrard said... They do talk absolute wank though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 70,939 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Junior Soprano said: They do talk absolute wank though What's going to games got to do with it? People that go will take shite, like me, people that don't go won't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 4,654 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, MurrayWilson said: Clearly polster looked far better when he came on and Paterson most would agree is better. Most would certainly claim Patterson is far better, but in reality they've seen him do the square root of fuck all against two teams who did absolutely fuck all attacking. He's nowhere near ready to play against teams like Hearts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 34,985 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, Junior Soprano said: They do talk absolute wank though How? We were very poor today and our squad depth clearly showed without Tavernier and Morelos we don’t have match winners. Bar Polster not one player actually seized the opportunity to play in the first 11 today and that is very worrying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurrayWilson 3,269 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Supersonic said: Most would certainly claim Patterson is far better, but in reality they've seen him do the square root of fuck all against two teams who did absolutely fuck all attacking. He's nowhere near ready to play against teams like Hearts. Well we will never know unless he plays. Hearts are bottom of the league for a reason. If we cant play a youngster against them then whats the point of the academy.? What we most certainly do know is that Flanagan is horse shit. No ifs, but or maybes about that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalfollower 1,543 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 The team let us down more than Gerrard imo. No coincidence that the last trip to tynecastle we never deserved to win that either!! sometimes the players just can’t make it happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,358 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 19 minutes ago, BlueMe said: Moving Aribo into his natural position was a mistake? Davis wouldn't have played the full 90 if we didn't have to waste a sub at half time on Flanagan. Who else would you play instead of Defoe when Morelos is suspended and Stewart was injured? We don't play with wingers, our width comes from our fullbacks. Aribo was very poor in his natural position for many games until he was moved wide right, he lacks the fight so far for the Scottish game, strange decision given hearts were already out fighting us Davis would have played the full 90 no matter what, he didnt have to sub flanagan Defoe should play, but we should change to accomodate him and flanagan, instead of attacking fullbacks we play wingers and attacking mids, get someone to link up with defoe, we dont have like for like changes in the squad so why do we still play like for like no matter what Your last point i addressed above Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,358 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, MurrayWilson said: Well we will never know unless he plays. Hearts are bottom of the league for a reason. If we cant play a youngster against them then whats the point of the academy.? What we most certainly do know is that Flanagan is horse shit. No ifs, but or maybes about that one. If guys like davis with over 100 caps for his country cant handle hearts away, then ehat evidence is there that rookie youngsters can Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,358 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 23 minutes ago, MurrayWilson said: Clearly polster looked far better when he came on and Paterson most would agree is better. So the right back who kept a clean sheet isnt a better option than the young right back who hasnt been tested yet and the centre mid converted to a right back who conceded two goals? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,245 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: So the right back who kept a clean sheet isnt a better option than the young right back who hasnt been tested yet and the centre mid converted to a right back who conceded two goals? Are you actually suggesting Flanagan played well or even ok? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,309 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 45 minutes ago, Bluekev said: Flanagan was no worse than Davis, Kamara, Aribo, but when they start midweek no one will say anything. Davis has been invisible in the last 2 games and Aribo has done fuck all too and I think sometimes we wasted 50k on Kamara because on days like today he cost us a goal through sloppiness and never looked interested. Flanagan isn't good enough and that's why he's cover but the "regulars" should be blamed for today before him. The midfield 3 on Wednesday I thought were shite - slow, lazy , uninterested, everything is just useless side to side , it was the same today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,358 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 1 minute ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Are you actually suggesting Flanagan played well or even ok? You're missing the point, he's a backup player with limited game time, he came in so has polster and Patterson, would either of polster or patterson changed that game today No flanagan didnt play well, neither did anyone else, they were all fucking rotten, but flanagan will be dropped eventually for his better option, the rest won't Flanagan has had good and bad games before for us, that is what puts him ahead of polster and Patterson, if we simply focus on bad games to determine our first team then we'll be dropping davis, jack, aribo, kamara, kent, defoe on wed night then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lidorfc 6,664 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Polster actually offered something going forward, Flanagan should be a reserve now after todays performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMe 25,327 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Aribo was very poor in his natural position for many games until he was moved wide right, he lacks the fight so far for the Scottish game, strange decision given hearts were already out fighting us Davis would have played the full 90 no matter what, he didnt have to sub flanagan Defoe should play, but we should change to accomodate him and flanagan, instead of attacking fullbacks we play wingers and attacking mids, get someone to link up with defoe, we dont have like for like changes in the squad so why do we still play like for like no matter what Your last point i addressed above It's hardly a mistake asking a player to play in their natural position for 20 minutes - especially when he was still playing further forward but centrally instead of on the right. Fuck knows how you can possibly know Davis would've played the full 90 no matter what tbh and Flanagan was rightly subbed and left Gerrard with no other option because he was the worst player on the park and was also one tackle away from a red card. Our system works well until you try and put players like Flanagan in there and trust them to do something they don't have the ability to do - changing our system to accommodate shite like Flanagan is pointless, he's bad in any role. Our bench is a concern. You never addressed my point, i addressed yours and then corrected you when you said we played with wingers - we don't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 1 hour ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: He was dreadful for 45 minutes. Thats the bottom line. Very poor but never cost us any goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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