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Is the manager's job on the line

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9 minutes ago, Jb85 said:

Tbf I completely never even gave champions league a second thought. I was on about the league. Can anyone say they’d have won it if Man City were as good as last season. Who knows. 

Even in the league, their record under klopp (not counting his first half season) 

4th, 22,10,6

4th, 21,12,5

2nd,30,7,1

This season 24,1,0

His first full season they also made the europa league final, his 2nd full season they made the CL final, his 3rd full season they won the thing, and this season would anyone bet against them doing a leagur and CL double

What klopp managed to do was identify liverpools weaknesses and address them, the purchase of VVD, allisson, salah, mane, while improving others, 

Gerrard brought in kent, hastie, ojo, jones, barker and doesn't play a system that uses wingers

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9 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said:

Rich men don't get rich by turning down gift horses.

IMO he will walk in the summer, but it will be with some compo. There is also the problem of his back room staff who are not cheap and they certainly won't be walking away empty handed.

Did PLG not walk away? 

 

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35 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said:

No

It’s a longer term project that many of us are not patient enough for  

 

to answer the question 

Nah, not having that. We've been fed that shite for too long.

I think at this stage (i.e. Gerrard's tenure) with serious money spent and the scum defeated home and away, you can't look at the way this team of softies has fucked up so badly (from a great position) and say "it's a long term project".

This isn't an argument about long term investment - we have OUT PLAYED the champions but can't do the business against teams paid a fucking fraction of what our lot are.  Bottle merchants imo. 

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6 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said:

Does it matter?

Do you honestly believe that he and his staff walk away with nothing?

Not happening mate.

I don't know about the staff but I think Gerrard might surprise you 

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20 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said:

Rich men don't get rich by turning down gift horses.

IMO he will walk in the summer, but it will be with some compo. There is also the problem of his back room staff who are not cheap and they certainly won't be walking away empty handed.

Very true, that's why they're rich.

 

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16 minutes ago, StaunchLondonGer said:

Nah, not having that. We've been fed that shite for too long.

I think at this stage (i.e. Gerrard's tenure) with serious money spent and the scum defeated home and away, you can't look at the way this team of softies has fucked up so badly (from a great position) and say "it's a long term project".

This isn't an argument about long term investment - we have OUT PLAYED the champions but can't do the business against teams paid a fucking fraction of what our lot are.  Bottle merchants imo. 

You might have been fed that shite but it’s never actually happened having burned through  7 or 8 since our demotion. 
 

we’ve got to do  something different. Not repeat the same thing every season and a half.  

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6 hours ago, Rangers_no1 said:

Not sure if it's been posted elsewhere, but it sounded like our fans were booing Gerrard subbing off Hagi?

If so, that's the beginning of the end of him, in my view, fans are just not happy with his decisions anymore.

Not sure if it's been mentioned anywhere in this thread or anywhere else on the forum because I've not read much since last night tbh but heard he said after the game that he was wrong to think this squad is capable of challenging for the title.

If that's the case he's probably eyeing up the exit himself saying things like that about his own squad.

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6 hours ago, Bobby Hume said:

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You were right mate ..... it was Stewart they were booing ...... ex player syndrome the usual.

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Ex player (who signed for Rangers) syndrome...

As for Gerrard, he said post match that there is something wrong and it's his job to 'figure out what it is', is truly worrying for us that he doesn't know.

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13 minutes ago, SteveEarle said:

As for Gerrard, he said post match that there is something wrong and it's his job to 'figure out what it is', is truly worrying for us that he doesn't know.

Agreed. Every manager in the league now has Gerrard figured out and know how to set up and play against us, his total inability to change things or play a different way to deal with this is what’s costing us.

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2 minutes ago, Bristol loyal said:

Agreed. Every manager in the league now has Gerrard figured out and know how to set up and play against us, his total inability to change things or play a different way to deal with this is what’s costing us.

That is nonsense.  We don't have the quality. It's quite simple really. 

If that theory was true that teams have us figured out then surely teams in England would figure out how to play against Liverpool's system aswell.  4-3-3 Salah and Mane cutting inside and full backs providing the width etc 

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2 hours ago, MacBoyd said:

Nah hes right it was 443 lovenkrands through the middle.

 

2 hours ago, TMB said:

You might be right about the 4-3-3.  I remember we went to Parkhead with Lovenkrands and Kanchelskis wide and Flo in the middle.  The pace really caused them problems.  

Haha my recollection of it was arveladze and novo wide with prso up top. 

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The European results have been different class , all was looking good up until the break , he’s done a good job , annoying me of late though , this isn’t his Liverpool playing era of next season will be ours for 10 seasons , this season is gon unless there’s a minor miracle, the way I feel now if we don’t win the league next season and they get ten it doesn’t matter a fuck what we do the rest of our lifetime the baws burst 

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6 minutes ago, gersfc86 said:

That is nonsense.  We don't have the quality. It's quite simple really. 

If that theory was true that teams have us figured out then surely teams in England would figure out how to play against Liverpool's system aswell.  4-3-3 Salah and Mane cutting inside and full backs providing the width etc 

Of course it’s about ability, but that doesn’t mean teams don’t have us figured out. They know how to play against us to exploit our lack of movement and intensity, it wouldn’t work against Liverpool because they have what’s required to beat teams who set up like that. It’s Gerrards job as manager to either train the players to open up teams who play like that or if we don’t have the ability then find another style/ formation. He’s done nothing to change and is doing the same thing game after game and expecting different results.

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If the season ends on a whimper I think he might put the feelers out for a job in England. We won’t be able to afford to sack him and he won’t want to have a sacking on his CV this early on either.

The likes of Derby, Leeds and Middlesbrough are all decent sized clubs in the Championship who get good backing from their owners and they might all be looking for a new manager come the Summer and if they are I think he might try and get one of those jobs.

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7 hours ago, Robert68 said:

In every job if you fail to meet your remit then you're surplus to requirement 

 

Has he failed?

Not yet is the fact. But there's a real danger.

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2 minutes ago, DBBTB said:

If the season ends on a whimper I think he might put the feelers out for a job in England. We won’t be able to afford to sack him and he won’t want to have a sacking on his CV this early on either.

The likes of Derby, Leeds and Middlesbrough are all decent sized clubs in the Championship who get good backing from their owners and they might all be looking for a new manager come the Summer and if they are I think he might try and get one of those jobs.

They will focus mainly on the strides he has made in Europe because they view Scottish football poorly and view it as a good job he has done. I could see him getting offered something at the end of the season

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10 minutes ago, gersfc86 said:

That is nonsense.  We don't have the quality. It's quite simple really. 

If that theory was true that teams have us figured out then surely teams in England would figure out how to play against Liverpool's system aswell.  4-3-3 Salah and Mane cutting inside and full backs providing the width etc 

The we don’t have the quality argument stood up when we were playing people like Harry Forrester and Josh Windass..it doesn’t stand up any more after significantly increasing our wage bill by giving Morelos, Tav, Jack, Davis, Defoe and McGregor new deals, investing 7 million on Kent and a reported £20,000 a week four year deal on Aribo.

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19 minutes ago, DBBTB said:

The we don’t have the quality argument stood up when we were playing people like Harry Forrester and Josh Windass..it doesn’t stand up any more after significantly increasing our wage bill by giving Morelos, Tav, Jack, Davis, Defoe and McGregor new deals, investing 7 million on Kent and a reported £20,000 a week four year deal on Aribo.

We invested 7 million on kent yes but we need to invest 7 million on another 3 players minimum if we are going to have a squad of genuine quality. 

So therefore the lack of quality argument does stand up!

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11 minutes ago, gersfc86 said:

We invested 7 million on kent yes but we need to invest 7 million on another 3 players minimum if we are going to have a squad of genuine quality. 

So therefore the lack of quality argument does stand up!

Sorry mate but I’m not buying it. He’s even said himself that this was the season we had to challenge and we’ve blown it.

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Got a funny feeling that last nights defeat might awaken the sleeping giant.

Fucking painful knowing we have a good squad but they are just not showing the true potential they have.

I mean we cannot get any worse. 

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