SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 59 minutes ago, Robmc1 said: They should be heavily disciplined as you suggest, over and above this they have to be seen to have been. As far as Clancy, I believe his very next game following the 29th farce was back at celtic with no sign of sanction there. Decisions like this feed to the insinuations against officialdom and who can blame people coming to the conclusions they do when we are seeing outrageous performances (referee) week after week. I personally don’t take to the notion of them sitting in a dark room plotting our downfall but when you compare the standards applied to celtic compared to ourselves there has got to be a reason which drives the lack of parity, be that at best inept, worst cheating but my guess sits somewhere in between... Clancy actually got the pick of the round tie in the scottish cup, Dundee Hivs v Junkie Hivs as his reward. It was the next game he returned to his beloved chamber of secrets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 10 hours ago, beararse said: Cant recall ever sayings these things even themselves out. I doubt they will to be honest, certainly not over the course of one season. Over a couple of seasons perhaps, but not one. The League cup final debacle cant be evened out unless we are the beneficiaries of an outrageous decision or two in say the Scottish Cup final or an Old firm quarter/semi. The point I have consistently tried to make is that these poor decisions are a result of incompetence, not corruption. We tend talk about how incompetent refs were when we are winning and playing well. Thoughts turn to conspiracy when we are playing poorly and celtic benefit from the occasional decision. In other words, more emphasis and scrutiny is placed on poor and inconsistent decisions when we start to rely on results elsewhere. There are of course those who have believed in conspiracy for a long time. Just my opinion mind, happy for anyone to have another train of thought. Like most on here, i'm also happy to fight my corner if questioned/challenged/abused. Things are only deemed a conspiracy until the facts have been collected. I disagree especially with the highlighted bit, have a read of the link below as it will explain my point better than I can. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40318-013-0027-z#Sec5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Any statements from the absentee landlords or are they top busy with bridges? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Anybody that doesn’t think the refs integrity hasn’t been manipulated by taig infested media needs to have a right good look at the situation Last season i can give 2 huge examples , In the first game we got pummelled,the only goal of the game came from a break away where Jack was fouled outside their box ,now I know we had chances to stop the counter ,but it was a foul none the less and and if foul was given we had a decent free kick to possibly score from ,All washed over because they were the better team,yadda yadda yadda Move forward to the next game at Ibrox we battered them and won 1 nil ,No greeting and moaning from Walker the taig commentator during the game ,Once the game was finished the game was analysed to death on social media ,And all of a sudden we were lucky and we spent weeks of castigation of Morelos for misdemeanours. In SGs time we have beaten them 3 times and 3 times handsomely everytime there has been a backlash in the media regarding insignificant ref calls ,Compare that to the lack of outcry when they won the league cup from a goal that should never have counted where little was ever mentioned and the other games they have won .No media coverage whatsoever about the referee , In the Christmas game at Ibrox last year the media outcry for the square root of fuck all caused the referee to need an escort to his next match and a police presence outside his home , Move forward to now ,We kept the pressure on the cunts and since the start of December including a cup final we have been on the wrong end of many calls ,not one in our favour , Even correct calls get pressure in the media ,look at the outcry when we got 4 penalties in the one game last year No referee will be willing to give us the benefit of the doubt now at a key point in the match knowing his family and career are under threat if he calls it wrong or even close to being wrong , Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmcf 34,152 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 It's really quite simple . Referee Mike McCurry led his Baptist congregation to sing Simply The Best , nothing to do with football , but about his religious beliefs , being a minister . The sfa , in 2009 , ended his career because of that , when they omitted him from the list of senior officials for that season . Now , while I can't say c.....c were directly behind this , it was made sure it was spotlighted in the papers at the time , and yes , even they had their placemen in the press back then . Meanwhile , the next season , 2010 , Dr Death , John Reid , asked for the removal of referee Dougie McDonald , for reversing a penalty decision , when the tarriers played dundee utd in a league game in 2010 . In November that same year , 2010 , Hugh Dallas , the Head of Referee Development , was reported by ill phil 3 names for passing on an email joke about the pope . The Roman Catholic Church got involved , and asked for his resignation , in which he was promptly sacked by the sfa . So here we have two referees , and a supervisor , removed from their posts at the behest of the roman catholic church , a catholic bigot and c....c football club , in just over a year . What follows is a referees strike , but be in no doubt . . . . the show has to go on , and the cast is set . The sfa , having never even backed their refs at this point , no longer have the strength or willingness to usurp c....c football club . Gone are the days of Jim Farry and Ernie Walker , replaced by names , well nobodies tbh , that don't even have the strength to control their referees , never mind the farcical office of Compliant Officer . Referees now go unchallenged , while the sfa play the fool . If ever a case of the tail wags the dog , this is it . The referees now tell the sfa what's to happen . Meanwhile , Rangers still play the Dignified Silence game . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 On 7/2/2020 at 01:20, Sweetheart said: I think money as well as ambition should be considered as a motive. Imho. At the beginning of 2007 when Reid became chairman of cfc they were living off co-op loans. I think due to his political connections he knew cfc were going to have to answer for their crimes and they would go bust if they didn't get their club making a profit. I think a corporate espionage plan was devised to hamstring Rangers financially, so cfc could accumulate maximum profits. I think with the help of their friends in the tax office they made up a phantom Tax bill, leaked info and persuaded HMRC to refuse to the CVA. I think they had friends at the bank who aggressively clawed back Rangers agreed loan. Then, refused to honour the club's overdraft unless the SDM chose to sell to the banks preferred bidder - Whyte.. I think they had friends in the SFA dish out punishments, fines, player embargo's, title stripping attempts, 5 way agreements and booted Rangers out of the league, which would take our club years to recover from. I think they had friends in the media who were constantly muck raking to damage Rangers brand. I think the ref strike was planned to get rid of refs who would stand in cfc's way to gain millions in prize money, titles and trophies. sponsorship, European qualification. I think the refs have brought the game into disrepute and I wouldn't be surprised if match manipulation was part of towing the party line We have been attacked from many different directions for a long time and we carry the scars. Obviously Brian Wilson didn't have the clout the soap dodgers needed but reid had it in spades ... indeed it would be a sobering thought to wonder what the state of play would be in Glasgow football today if the bears in his constituency hadn't voted him into power and given him the contacts to hurt us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Tarrier cunt on SSB phone in tonight greeting about Hamilton not getting a penalty today, almost in tears the cunt was, And it's not as if they haven't witnessed what's been going on recently, they watch just as much as wee do He's desperate to have Main disciplined 😳 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 20 hours ago, magic8ball said: Anybody that doesn’t think the refs integrity hasn’t been manipulated by taig infested media needs to have a right good look at the situation Last season i can give 2 huge examples , In the first game we got pummelled,the only goal of the game came from a break away where Jack was fouled outside their box ,now I know we had chances to stop the counter ,but it was a foul none the less and and if foul was given we had a decent free kick to possibly score from ,All washed over because they were the better team,yadda yadda yadda Move forward to the next game at Ibrox we battered them and won 1 nil ,No greeting and moaning from Walker the taig commentator during the game ,Once the game was finished the game was analysed to death on social media ,And all of a sudden we were lucky and we spent weeks of castigation of Morelos for misdemeanours. In SGs time we have beaten them 3 times and 3 times handsomely everytime there has been a backlash in the media regarding insignificant ref calls ,Compare that to the lack of outcry when they won the league cup from a goal that should never have counted where little was ever mentioned and the other games they have won .No media coverage whatsoever about the referee , In the Christmas game at Ibrox last year the media outcry for the square root of fuck all caused the referee to need an escort to his next match and a police presence outside his home , Move forward to now ,We kept the pressure on the cunts and since the start of December including a cup final we have been on the wrong end of many calls ,not one in our favour , Even correct calls get pressure in the media ,look at the outcry when we got 4 penalties in the one game last year No referee will be willing to give us the benefit of the doubt now at a key point in the match knowing his family and career are under threat if he calls it wrong or even close to being wrong , Let me get this right, your saying threats are being made to refs and they are being forced to do match manipulation to keep their families and careers safe? If this is the case then the SFA need call the police and do an investigation. How can anyone trust these refs to officiate a game whilst this is going on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 2,991 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Guess today fucks the 'referees are out to stop us' conspiracy eh lads? Just stuck with them being fucking atrocious at their jobs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 minute ago, theiconicman said: Guess today fucks the 'referees are out to stop us' conspiracy eh lads? Just stuck with them being fucking atrocious at their jobs. That makes one favourable decision, that I'm not sure the ref could see, compared to dozens the refs have seen clearly. So I guess you're talking shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 17 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: Let me get this right, your saying threats are being made to refs and they are being forced to do match manipulation to keep their families and careers safe? If this is the case then the SFA need call the police and do an investigation. How can anyone trust these refs to officiate a game whilst this is going on. Happened to Beaton after the game in December 2018 when we beat them ,police presence outside the house ,all coz the taigs got beat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 2,991 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 minute ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: That makes one favourable decision, that I'm not sure the ref could see, compared to dozens the refs have seen clearly. So I guess you're talking shite. Gave us a penalty when it looked like we had zero chance of scoring. Didn't give them a penalty when it was 1-1. So yeah, you're deluded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, theiconicman said: Gave us a penalty when it looked like we had zero chance of scoring. Didn't give them a penalty when it was 1-1. So yeah, you're deluded. Zero chance of scoring? Really? We created / were creating no chances? Gave us a penalty? So it wasnt and our player should have been booked for simulation? Didnt give them a penalty? Thats the one that I've said WAS a penalty but hit Goldsons arm pretty much under his body. Ref was behind, I'm not convinced he'll have seen it properly. Should refs give penalties if they don't see them? First wrong big decision in our favour in months. You give me more and I'll give you five back in return. Lets play, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 2,991 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 If it was a conspiracy, he wouldn't have given us the penalty. If it was a conspiracy he would have given them a penalty. Should refs give penalties if they don't see them? Yes if it is a conspiracy. Duh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, magic8ball said: Happened to Beaton after the game in December 2018 when we beat them ,police presence outside the house ,all coz the taigs got beat Yes, I recall that now. Could the reason the refs blatantly show match manipulation be that they want the SFA to step up and deal with the situation? Personally I think the're a few dodgy refs in the service of cfc, as they are the only ones to benefit financially from this situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, theiconicman said: If it was a conspiracy, he wouldn't have given us the penalty. If it was a conspiracy he would have given them a penalty. Not playing then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amato 3,016 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Kilmarnock player on a yellow takes a blatant dive in the first half. No yellow. Morelos scores. Chopped off for... Being Morelos. Cunts Edit: how did I forget, they score with a handball seconds earlier Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCRobertson 11,778 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Hand ball in the build up to the equaliser tav dragged back, no yellow morelos goal chopped off for fuckall reason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemc 305 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, RFCRobertson said: Hand ball in the build up to the equaliser tav dragged back, no yellow morelos goal chopped off for fuckall reason Push on morelos in the box aswell, fucking shocking! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanther22 443 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Anyone still think it’s just shit refereeing ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrupsleftfoot 10,872 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Three games in a row now with three absolutely shocking refereeing performances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corkinator 611 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 It’s done the refs have won! It’s that simple, every single game, massive game changing decisions go against us. It’s incredible, the law of averages would suggest it’s not a coincidence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumloyal 14,966 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 We are absolute shitebags and gutless but that referee is a disgrace. Handball in the build up to their goal. Cunts get away with all sorts of bad tackles. Dicker should've been off. Morelos shoved to the deck in the box with no pen given. Morelos goal chopped off for no reason, ref then goes and has a wee laugh with killie player straight after chopping it off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,526 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 The clear cut one is the Killie goal. I can see why he's given the Morelos one, but if you give that you have to give Burke's. Then there's the difference between Morelos and Dicker for the bookings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,526 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just seems like ALL debatable ones go against us. As well as some definite ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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