SeparateEntityMyArse 53,613 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: All this just because he won’t believe we don’t get a fair shake when it comes to the Refs. When the facts are right in front of his face. Hes right that they are shite and inconsistent I suppose 😁 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,595 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 40 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said: When was the last time we genuinely had a shocking decision go for us? One that springs to mind is Flanagan escaping a red card for elbowing Brown,nearly a year ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: One that springs to mind is Flanagan escaping a red card for elbowing Brown,nearly a year ago Don’t know if that was in favour as it meant he didn’t get suspended. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,365 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 23 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: Which would mean both us and the scum as the teams with most possession should be around the same when it comes to punishment. But we aren’t even close. Arent we? Depends what you classify as 'close'. We have had 1/12th more red cards per game and 0.25 more yellow cards per game, with our 'fouls to cards' ratio over the first 24 games is sitting at 7.22 verses celtic's 8.39. Allowing for a factor of 1.02 to account for their greater amount of average possession this season (46.68% vs 45.83%) our fouls to card ratio would theoretically rise at 7.36. Based on the offences that have been punished, that doesn't strike me as a massive gap between the two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 minute ago, beararse said: Arent we? Depends what you classify as 'close'. We have had 1/12th more red cards per game and 0.25 more yellow cards per game, with our 'fouls to cards' ratio over the first 24 games is sitting at 7.22 verses celtic's 8.39. Allowing for a factor of 1.02 to account for their greater amount of average possession this season (46.68% vs 45.83%) our fouls to card ratio would theoretically rise at 7.36. Based on the offences that have been punished, that doesn't strike me as a massive gap between the two. 😂😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,365 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 30 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: All this just because he won’t believe we don’t get a fair shake when it comes to the Refs. When the facts are right in front of his face. Again, at the risk of repeating myself, i'm not denying we are getting a raw deal with refereeing decisions. It's got fuck all to do with corruption, that's all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 The Aberdeen refereeing was abysmal, last night was even worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,613 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Rangers_no1 said: When was the last time we genuinely had a shocking decision go for us? Defoe offside goal v st johnstone in September? Not really genuinely shocking tbf but I did count it as a wrong big decision in our favour 😁 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, beararse said: Again, at the risk of repeating myself, i'm not denying we are getting a raw deal with refereeing decisions. It's got fuck all to do with corruption, that's all. Again at the risk of repeating myself, it isn’t because as you say they are simply shite and inconsistent. Again as I also pointed out corruption doesn’t mean brown envelopes in dark rooms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,613 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, beararse said: Arent we? Depends what you classify as 'close'. We have had 1/12th more red cards per game and 0.25 more yellow cards per game, with our 'fouls to cards' ratio over the first 24 games is sitting at 7.22 verses celtic's 8.39. Allowing for a factor of 1.02 to account for their greater amount of average possession this season (46.68% vs 45.83%) our fouls to card ratio would theoretically rise at 7.36. Based on the offences that have been punished, that doesn't strike me as a massive gap between the two. Folk kick the shit out our players and fouls let alone cards aren't given. Many of the big decisions dont show in any stats. Except if we consider the incident, whether it was wrongly awarded and who favoured/ suffered from it. Thats where its hugely weighted against us, as we seen in our games against the scum heavily pro them, and overall nowhere near balancing out. Thats why you cant name me 1 solitary game this season, in one you're calling refs shite, where their wrong decisions went significantly or even at all in our favour. And why incompetence as the sole argument makes no sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyc06 6,915 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 22 minutes ago, beararse said: Arent we? Depends what you classify as 'close'. We have had 1/12th more red cards per game and 0.25 more yellow cards per game, with our 'fouls to cards' ratio over the first 24 games is sitting at 7.22 verses celtic's 8.39. Allowing for a factor of 1.02 to account for their greater amount of average possession this season (46.68% vs 45.83%) our fouls to card ratio would theoretically rise at 7.36. Based on the offences that have been punished, that doesn't strike me as a massive gap between the two. You’re way off the mark here, a red card for Hamilton following a red card not given doesn’t show in your ‘stats’ yet have had a massive effect on the league table. This isn’t an isolated decision either. Last nights rugby tackle. Sam Cosgroves persisting fouling. That’s just the last 2 games which won’t show in any ‘stats’. league cup final - offside goal, not shown in your ‘stats’ old firm at parkhead - handball goal, not shown in your stats. it’s all there for you too see, if you come away from: factoring a higher % of possession x corners awarded / when subs are made = the square root of fuck all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,365 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 23 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: Again at the risk of repeating myself, it isn’t because as you say they are simply shite and inconsistent. Again as I also pointed out corruption doesn’t mean brown envelopes in dark rooms. Never said it involved money at any point. To corrupt usually has to be an inducement, an incentive. You can of course unintentionally corrupt something but that removes the intent which you clearly aren’t suggesting. I’ve asked the question ‘why’ and only had one response, which was essentially ‘peer pressure’. where is the incentive in orchestrating a mass exercise to help prevent Rangers from achieving their goals! Also, corruption tends to lurk in the shadows, not in full view of 50,000 spectators week in week out and played out on TV screens. You clearly believe the refs are corrupt, i think they’re just piss poor. I might have missed it so apologies but have you actually described how you think the corruption works? I’ve had to explain why I don’t think corruption exists in the game, but had little back from the conspiracy theorists, so rather than me trying to disprove a theory for which their is no evidence, how about justifying the claim of corruption. So: Who specifically is corrupt? How did/do they corrupt others? What is in for them all? How do they avoid detection in full glare of the public? Who is the head of the beast? Maybe a wee explanation will change my views on the matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
islanderbear84 611 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 23 minutes ago, beararse said: Who specifically is corrupt? How did/do they corrupt others? What is in for them all? How do they avoid detection in full glare of the public? Who is the head of the beast? The SFA that is in charge of the refs and the referees themselves. Money and access to refereeing european matches through liewells contacts in uefa. By the same means as all corrupt payments are, in private and through 3rd parties. The head of the beast is quite apt really, liewell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,613 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, beararse said: Also, corruption tends to lurk in the shadows, not in full view of 50,000 spectators week in week out and played out on TV screens. Come on to fuck you're not that naive ffs. Trial by Sportscene IS a thing. It conditions folk that Rangers = bad, scum = good. And it gets huge focus on incidents selected to appear in front on the compliance officer whilst others are barely even shown a 2nd time. Rangers player, show from every camera angle. Scum, sweep sweep. Its the same conditioning from most Broadcasters. Brown forearm smash on Tav. Jersey tugs in box on Morelos. "Debateable" offside in cup final. Sympathetic approach towards Thumb stamp at Hamilton. Theres multiple examples, take your pick. Whilst a republican government, and Republican justice minister run the country, our NUJ is rammed with Republicans who write about what Republican match commentators have chosen to highlight. Or maybe they're all just shit and inconsistent and like Rangers the PUL community aren't being victimised. Ffs dont say they wouldnt cheat us in front of the cameras and big crowds. The last 2 OF games should have seen demotions, not a fuck is given by any one bar us, well most of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 5 hours ago, scottyscott1963 said: Add that one to the folder when Alfie was sent off when the linesman? who saw Alfie throwing an arm at that reptile brown at the paedo dome,got him sent off. You bet your bottom dollar the bastards are cheating. It came out week before or after ,this linesman is a bheast lover And he was linesman in the Aberdeen game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 4 hours ago, ForeverAndEver said: Brown did last season. Why is always the same posters that do this 🤔🤔🤔🤔 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,444 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Just watched the Stevenson 1 again there and it's a shambles he never got booked , its glorious though that morelos still runs about with him on his back like hes a wean then tosses him about like an empty trackie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
They Gnu 11,553 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, ger4life_1872 said: Just watched the Stevenson 1 again there and it's a shambles he never got booked , its glorious though that morelos still runs about with him on his back like hes a wean then tosses him about like an empty trackie Did make me laugh when he threw the fanny over his shoulder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
islanderbear84 611 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 minute ago, They Gnu said: Did make me laugh when he threw the fanny over his shoulder. Compliance officer looking into it as an illegal takedown! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Well he thought this was outside the box so he is either blind or cheating Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
islanderbear84 611 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Just now, Thermopylae said: Well he thought this was outside the box so he is either blind or cheating Noooooo. Simply inconsistent. Next time we will definitely get it. Or maybe not. Because they are that inconsistent that if we never get these decisions it is just further evidence of the random disorder of inconsistency. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, islanderbear84 said: Noooooo. Simply inconsistent. Next time we will definitely get it. Or maybe not. Because they are that inconsistent that if we never get these decisions it is just further evidence of the random disorder of inconsistency. Another one in the same week ... purely random mistakes you understand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,613 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Thermopylae said: Another one in the same week ... purely random mistakes you understand Debateable they said. Helanders arm they said. Fuck you Rangers they said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Debateable they said. Helanders arm they said. Fuck you Rangers they said. To be fair there are only 4 off side I mean that's not even half the team how can the officials be expeected to spot that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
islanderbear84 611 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Thermopylae said: Another one in the same week ... purely random mistakes you understand And again, im sure there will come a game where we have all 10 players between their back 4 and the keeper when the pass is made and the goal will be allowed to stand. Its totally randomly stacked against us. There is no structure to this bias against us, purely misinterpreted by all of us of intelect lower than @beararse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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