RFC55 108,794 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: He’s made you look a fool there pal... With his 6 or 7 other accounts and fanciful tales he's done it to himself mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, beararse said: Ah, so you are BA RFC52 was referring to. Basically, someone with an independent mind willing to share their views on a fans forum. What a cheek you have eh? Guilty as charged. Wouldn't bother with RFC52 tbh, his MO preceeds him. He has needs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,794 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said: Guilty as charged. Wouldn't bother with RFC52 tbh, his MO preceeds him. He has needs. You've been outed previously. You're a Walter mitty and it's fucking embarrassing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Would say BA has RFC on the ropes a bit here, maybe he’s going for the rope a dope tactic. 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,794 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 He's slagging the board again so that's him on the side of the rest of the RM moon howlers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 22,740 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 46 minutes ago, the cry was no said: The problem with the statement is that Traynor wrote it and delivered it. It has many great points but unfortunately, as is his want, he tries to be too clever and point fingers without naming names. The problem with our PR is Traynor..... he wasn't a great journalist, he's not a PR professional and he is universally hated due to being an arrogant, egotistical bully. It's not surprising that the statement has been ignored by the mhedia. Leckie should have been dealt with at the time not brought into a very important issue weeks later. Provan should be publicly lambasted for his disgraceful article - separate to this statement Our PR is very poor because we employ a very poor person to do it, Whatever he has on King or others must be big, there is no other reason for persevering with him Correct. Make no mistake, Traynor is getting far more out of this arrangement than Rangers. He is a lightning rod for all the haters and there are probably people who were ambivalent about us before he was appointed but who have turned against us because he is our mouthpiece. Like we need more people to hate us. In that sense he is actually counterproductive and, for that reason, I’d move him on and get in an experienced replacement but not someone who consistently rubs people up the wrong way or who uses his position at Rangers to settle old scores. Someone like Daryl Broadfoot or Al Lamont perhaps. This is not about giving in to the beast and surrendering one of our own, this is about what is best for the club and replacing a part of the machine clearly not fit for purpose. While he remains at Ibrox, we will not be taken seriously regardless of the abuse and threats which come our way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Colin Traive said: Correct. Make no mistake, Traynor is getting far more out of this arrangement than Rangers. He is a lightning rod for all the haters and there are probably people who were ambivalent about us before he was appointed but who have turned against us because he is our mouthpiece. Like we need more people to hate us. In that sense he is actually counterproductive and, for that reason, I’d move him on and get in an experienced replacement but not someone who consistently rubs people up the wrong way or who uses his position at Rangers to settle old scores. Someone like Daryl Broadfoot or Al Lamont perhaps. This is not about giving in to the beast and surrendering one of our own, this is about what is best for the club and replacing a part of the machine clearly not fit for purpose. While he remains at Ibrox, we will not be taken seriously regardless of the abuse and threats which come our way. That cunt should be allowed nowhere near Ibrox. A boyhood Rangers fan who will now deny ever supporting Rangers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 22,740 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: That cunt should be allowed nowhere near Ibrox. A boyhood Rangers fan who will now deny ever supporting Rangers. I’m using him as an example FFS. Can you not see past your personal hatred and grasp the bigger picture? I don’t care if Traynor’s replacement is or was a diehard bluenose, I just want him to be effective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,371 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 hour ago, the cry was no said: The problem with the statement is that Traynor wrote it and delivered it. It has many great points but unfortunately, as is his want, he tries to be too clever and point fingers without naming names. The problem with our PR is Traynor..... he wasn't a great journalist, he's not a PR professional and he is universally hated due to being an arrogant, egotistical bully. It's not surprising that the statement has been ignored by the mhedia. Leckie should have been dealt with at the time not brought into a very important issue weeks later. Provan should be publicly lambasted for his disgraceful article - separate to this statement Our PR is very poor because we employ a very poor person to do it, Whatever he has on King or others must be big, there is no other reason for persevering with him absolutely spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,526 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Dude said: That cunt should be allowed nowhere near Ibrox. A boyhood Rangers fan who will now deny ever supporting Rangers. Not to excuse it, but it's probably necessary if you want to advance your career in the likes of the SFA, BBC Scotland and The Herald these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 21 minutes ago, Rfc52 said: He's slagging the board again so that's him on the side of the rest of the RM moon howlers No one is above criticism when it is due. Not even an omnipotent like yourself.. The board are but stewards, but fans live on forever and the lifeblood. If a board cannot protect the brand, our heritage and their very own employees, they are not a board, but a vassal of the popular narrative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeRoar 2 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Thought the statement showed that we won’t be pushovers. We’ve been screaming for the board to show some balls for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, Colin Traive said: I’m using him as an example FFS. Can you not see past your personal hatred and grasp the bigger picture? I don’t care if Traynor’s replacement is or was a diehard bluenose, I just want him to be effective. Unfortunately unless you are going to go outside Scotland to find someone for the PR gig, you want find anyone in Scotland that isn’t one of us that will give their all for the job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, Colin Traive said: I’m using him as an example FFS. Can you not see past your personal hatred and grasp the bigger picture? I don’t care if Traynor’s replacement is or was a diehard bluenose, I just want him to be effective. Personal hatred? I'd just rather we weren't hiring guys embarrassed to be known as a Rangers fan. Certainly don't need to be a fan to be an effective PR head but certainly now wanting someone ashamed to admit he supports us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,371 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 41 minutes ago, Colin Traive said: I’m using him as an example FFS. Can you not see past your personal hatred and grasp the bigger picture? I don’t care if Traynor’s replacement is or was a diehard bluenose, I just want him to be effective. In this age of multi media and spin it is essential that our PR guy is, above all, effective. Short sharp statements on a regular basis which make the point , helps keeps a foothold on agenda and doesn't present opportunity for ridicule (the use of 'concomitant', offering salvation to an as yet un-convicted 12 year old etc) With the exception of folk on this forum, few have the time nor desire to read through 1500 words, especially when 200 would suffice. Sadly, all that remains fresh in the minds of the public is the max 140 word tweets from those responding to our wordy statements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, Inigo said: Not to excuse it, but it's probably necessary if you want to advance your career in the likes of the SFA, BBC Scotland and The Herald these days. Maybe, but it never done his career any harm early on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,886 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 The issue with Traynor (apart from being a cunt) is that every statement becomes about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,526 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 minute ago, The Dude said: Maybe, but it never done his career any harm early on. Arguably times were different. Perhaps only so much of a fan that he'll be one until it's no longer prudent. Just out of interest, does he claim to support anyone else now? And you don't have to name names, but are any journos open within journo circles about supporting us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Just now, Inigo said: Arguably times were different. Perhaps only so much of a fan that he'll be one until it's no longer prudent. Just out of interest, does he claim to support anyone else now? And you don't have to name names, but are any journos open within journo circles about supporting us? I'm sure he just says he's a Scotland/football fan now. His flat used to have pictures of him as a kid wearing Rangers tops. Aye, there are a few who openly support us but not many. Not counting the ex-pros, there are surprisingly few who openly support either half of the Old Firm. Plenty of Raith, Aberdeen, Falkirk and St. Mirren fans bizarrely. Jonny McFarlane is one of the few who are openly Rangers fans (despite all the Hibs nonsense). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 90,750 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 BA absolutely destroying RFC52 there. Never seen a take down like it. Olympus has fallen tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Deacon 55,149 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, born a blue nose said: BA absolutely destroying RFC52 there. Never seen a take down like it. Olympus has fallen tbh This takedown is giving me a haddon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 90,750 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Just now, Dan Deacon said: This takedown is giving me a haddon 😂😂😂😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,137 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Wouldn’t ya know it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Traynor is a tabloid journalist, and our statements often come across as sensationalist and very tabloid. I do feel the style of statement makes them a bit of a laughing stock, and makes them easy to pick apart - masking completely valid points contained within. We need to remember in making statements, we are not releasing them to convince or appease Rangers fans - that is preaching to the (mostly) already converted. We are making them to convince the wider audience that we have a valid point and are unhappy about things. A bit of concise professional style writing goes a long way in shaping public opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,371 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Badger said: We are making them to convince the wider audience that we have a valid point and are unhappy about things. A bit of concise professional style writing goes a long way in shaping public opinion. Exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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