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9 minutes ago, RobertN said:

Imagine coming back from Sunny Saudi Arabia to this mental weather playing conditions if you are not used to Scottish weather

Not a excuse but maybe a factor with some of our players

Who went so Saudi Arabia?

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1 hour ago, gj923 said:

Running the dunes was used as an example that the majority of fans included would not know the optimum training schedule for a professional footballer over the course of a season but that does'nt stop people from forming an opinion with facts to back it up.

Playing the same amount and a stronger bench are two different points. The first  was highlighting that there is another team having played the same amount of games as us so for the players that where here last year the amount of games should not make a difference.

The strength of the bench is highlighting that they have a much better chance of impacting a game with subs

Being here last season and playing the same amount of games won't make a difference on the basis they won't be any fitter for it, if you've not got the squad to rotate and keep players fresh then you'll have the same outcome. We can't win the league playing the same 16/18 players. 

There's also been players who have went off form and not been dropped due to him not trusting or giving others a chance. 

 

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1 hour ago, BillStruthBear said:

Ludicrous basis for an argument, I'm actually a bit embarrassed for you. 

You used aribo being shite as a basis for how bad league 1 players are, ive just shown you one that's our captain now, so thats one player for each side of the argument, still nothing convincing me that the players we loaned out aren't better than the likes of jones, ojo etc

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2 hours ago, Ross-Gazza genius said:

They've got a much bigger squad which they've used, we haven't. 

Gerrards fault then, signed 5 wingers, doesnt play a winger system, brings in 28 players in 18months yet the core squad are apparently burnt out

All this is on gerrard not the players, a lot of people on here seem hesitant to lay any of the blame on gerrard and find anyway to turn it onto the players

I'll say it again, teams have sussed us, its nothing to do with losing the dressing room or everyone burnt out or off form, its our one dimensional system thats causing it, every opponent now knows how we'll play and how to counter it

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7 minutes ago, B1872 said:

I don't think he's lost the dressing room at all I just think we've got zero confidence.

The weight of playing for us and the expectation is too much for some.

Yet they went to the piggery and played that mob off the park and won

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13 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

Yet they went to the piggery and played that mob off the park and won

Was the season over when we beat them at the piggery? 

The expectation is to win every game  not just the ones against the pedos. 

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8 minutes ago, King Jela said:

Was the season over when we beat them at the piggery? 

The expectation is to win every game  not just the ones against the pedos. 

It would have been had we lost, immense pressure not to fuck it up, and they coasted it

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1 hour ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

Gerrards fault then, signed 5 wingers, doesnt play a winger system, brings in 28 players in 18months yet the core squad are apparently burnt out

All this is on gerrard not the players, a lot of people on here seem hesitant to lay any of the blame on gerrard and find anyway to turn it onto the players

I'll say it again, teams have sussed us, its nothing to do with losing the dressing room or everyone burnt out or off form, its our one dimensional system thats causing it, every opponent now knows how we'll play and how to counter it

Players can be burnt out and it can also be Gerrards fault that that is the case. I've already said in other posts that Gerrard takes the blame for that and in no way am I saying it's the players fault for being mismanaged. 

If our season starts early due to European qualifiers and with Cup runs he needs to make sure he has a squad capable of dealing with it and keeping it fresh. 

At times this season Tav, goldson, aribo, Arfield, Kent and now morelos have been out of form but he's been reluctant to change them and sticking with the same players will not help in the long run. 

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1 hour ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

You used aribo being shite as a basis for how bad league 1 players are, ive just shown you one that's our captain now, so thats one player for each side of the argument, still nothing convincing me that the players we loaned out aren't better than the likes of jones, ojo etc

Problem is there are COUNTLESS examples of players from that level not stepping up.

Jamie Vardy played for Fleetwood before Leicester. That doesn’t mean that the National League is a good standard, and it would be daft to use an anomaly as evidence that it is. It simply means Jamie Vardy is too good for that level.

League One is piss poor and if you seriously think we can mount title challenges off the back of signing players from there, then I’m not really sure what to say about that.

As for suggesting that some of our incoming players are/have been no better than ones we’ve loaned out? I completely agree.

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43 minutes ago, BillStruthBear said:

Problem is there are COUNTLESS examples of players from that level not stepping up.

Jamie Vardy played for Fleetwood before Leicester. That doesn’t mean that the National League is a good standard, and it would be daft to use an anomaly as evidence that it is. It simply means Jamie Vardy is too good for that level.

League One is piss poor and if you seriously think we can mount title challenges off the back of signing players from there, then I’m not really sure what to say about that.

As for suggesting that some of our incoming players are/have been no better than ones we’ve loaned out? I completely agree.

I never said we could mount a title challenge with league one players, i did say however that Murphy and mccrorie are playing in a better standard overall of league than we are playing in, others have disagreed but its my opinion that league one is better than non old firm spfl

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2 hours ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

It would have been had we lost, immense pressure not to fuck it up, and they coasted it

And that attitude is exactly why the tarriers are 10 points in front. They lost that game and haven't looked back, we won the game and thought the hard part was over. 

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On 17/02/2020 at 20:04, King Jela said:

This is what is confusing me. The tims have been far and away a better team than last year. Even if we'd beat them at Ibrox in September they'd still be 7 clear. We've been great this year, in general, they've just been better. Hard to accept but that is the case. 

Still a lot of football to be played though. 

Jela, even if we hadn't dropped all the points that we have since the winter break, they would maybe still be ahead of us, and more than likely would go onto win the league. Their form has been outstanding, I hate to say it, but it's true.

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On 17/02/2020 at 20:04, King Jela said:

This is what is confusing me. The tims have been far and away a better team than last year. Even if we'd beat them at Ibrox in September they'd still be 7 clear. We've been great this year, in general, they've just been better. Hard to accept but that is the case. 

Still a lot of football to be played though. 

How would they still be 7 clear if we beat them at ibrox back in september? 

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19 hours ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

It would have been had we lost, immense pressure not to fuck it up, and they coasted it

You could argue it would have been better if we lost that game which would have given us the incentive to win the games we've dropped points in. We get complacent every time we win a big game like we think the jobs done, we don't seem to build any momentum from big wins. Beating celtic means fuck all when you drop points against everyone else.

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18 minutes ago, Willis said:

You could argue it would have been better if we lost that game which would have given us the incentive to win the games we've dropped points in. We get complacent every time we win a big game like we think the jobs done, we don't seem to build any momentum from big wins. Beating celtic means fuck all when you drop points against everyone else.

So you'd prefer us going into a winter break 8 points behind with a game in hand instead of 2 points behind with a game in hand? 

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4 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

So you'd prefer us going into a winter break 8 points behind with a game in hand instead of 2 points behind with a game in hand? 

It's irrelevant now cause we've fucked it. No point in celebrating what's turning  out to be a worthless victory.

The team seem to think all they need to do is beat the taigs and all the rest will work out, we get complacent every time we do well against them. And at this rate us beating them was just a curse disguised as a blessing because we haven't showed any fight since then

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7 hours ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

How would they still be 7 clear if we beat them at ibrox back in september? 

Fucked the maths but I thought the point was clearly obvious? No? Too difficult? 

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