They Gnu 11,553 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 We’ve taken a winter break on what I’d imagine were perfect pitches to come back to wet bumpy surfaces. What worked in the Arabian sun doesn’t work in a Scottish Winter and we’ve had no answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,177 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Pretty sure celtic were out in Dubai aswell Players are just shite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanjo 26,328 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Short of a fall out, there is no other explanation short of negligence from SG and us being utter shite. Said it on another thread but serious questions need to be asked. This collapse could partially be excused before but not twice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookWorm 4,123 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 The players as a team are playing rubbish I don't think it is all down to Scottish pitches. There seems to be some sort of communication breakdown between the management and playing staff to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol loyal 6,248 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 We were playing on shite pitches before the break aswell and wernt playing too bad! No point making excuses when the only ones to blame are the players and manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 18,594 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Unproven under 18's manager unable to change tactics and shitebags wearing our jersey. Nothing to do with the pitches. We arguably got our best win on Thirsday on arguably the worst pitch weve played on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willis 20,919 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 A nonsense excuse. We are pish. End of story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
They Gnu 11,553 Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bristol loyal said: We were playing on shite pitches before the break aswell and wernt playing too bad! No point making excuses when the only ones to blame are the players and manager. It’s not an excuse it’s a possible explanation. They’re highly paid professional athletes who should be able to adapt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperLeeMcCulloch 2,330 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 They've clearly went and had a holiday for 3 weeks and worked on the same system because we beat the tims, I will never understand the use of warm weather training when you are coming back to play in weather that won't go past 5°c. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,606 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Decent in the first half this season and last, come back after the break and chuck it away, like last season. It's too coincidental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eosmhdo 1,879 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 1 minute ago, BridgeIsBlue said: Decent in the first half this season and last, come back after the break and chuck it away, like last season. It's too coincidental. Players got double sessions in Dubai. Tims got training day then day off. We never. They came back fresh. We came back fucked. No coincidence for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurrayWilson 3,381 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 There is something not right. You look at the players and they all look a yard slower than they did in December . Some of them , without naming names, just aren't very good but a lot of others who looked the part before Christmas are a shadow of themselves. You would be hard pressed to name a single player who has carried there form pre Dubai into the new year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjim1690 4,534 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 I think that we should send a representative back out to Dubai and pay whatever the ransom demand is to get our players back and return their doppelgängers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollok-bear 7,537 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Bullshit we just cant handle the pressure once we are on top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoodyBlue1872 3,078 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 St Johnstone trained on it yesterday in order to cut it up for today. A deliberate ploy. First time this season that they have done this. Pitch wasn't rolled either, after Rangers being told it would be. We can't use the pitch as an excuse - but it shows you the hatred for us that they sink to this level. They call it the SPFL. There is nothing professional about the football set up in Scotland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol loyal 6,248 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 22 minutes ago, eosmhdo said: Players got double sessions in Dubai. Tims got training day then day off. We never. They came back fresh. We came back fucked. No coincidence for me Said it before but hearing the phrase ‘mini pre season’ sets alarm bells ringing for me. The players had played over 30 games in half a season the break was supposed to be for rest not to run them into the ground. I’d be very interested to see how the European teams that have winter breaks do it because I’d bet the majority don’t do intensive training as we apparently do. Its the exact same mistake as last season and for that serious questions must be asked of the management team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,057 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 1 hour ago, kanjo said: Short of a fall out, there is no other explanation short of negligence from SG and us being utter shite. Said it on another thread but serious questions need to be asked. This collapse could partially be excused before but not twice. A rumour I heard an hour ago was that there was some sort of fallout from Dubai, apparently whatever they did the previous year in Spain got changed because of the collapse after the winter break....anyway apparently the Dubai week was treated as a pre season and the players got hammered, this led to the more senior players having a go at Gerrard apparently.....it could be utter bollocks but it certainly would fit the theory that some posters had a couple of weeks ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Hurlock Loyal 12,133 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 1 hour ago, BookWorm said: The players as a team are playing rubbish I don't think it is all down to Scottish pitches. There seems to be some sort of communication breakdown between the management and playing staff to me. A bust up but McAllister says no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perth_Campsie_Ger 17,995 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 1 hour ago, .Williamson. said: Pretty sure celtic were out in Dubai aswell Players are just shite Aberdeen were out there too. Pretty sure a few of the teams were away during the winter break Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperLeeMcCulloch 2,330 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bristol loyal said: Said it before but hearing the phrase ‘mini pre season’ sets alarm bells ringing for me. The players had played over 30 games in half a season the break was supposed to be for rest not to run them into the ground. I’d be very interested to see how the European teams that have winter breaks do it because I’d bet the majority don’t do intensive training as we apparently do. Its the exact same mistake as last season and for that serious questions must be asked of the management team. They attempt to pass it off that it will serve them well towards the end of the season, the thing they don't seem to grasp is the fact it means absolutely fuck all what you do in April/May if your already out the title race before March has arrived. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurrayWilson 3,381 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Bristol loyal said: Said it before but hearing the phrase ‘mini pre season’ sets alarm bells ringing for me. The players had played over 30 games in half a season the break was supposed to be for rest not to run them into the ground. I’d be very interested to see how the European teams that have winter breaks do it because I’d bet the majority don’t do intensive training as we apparently do. Its the exact same mistake as last season and for that serious questions must be asked of the management team. You could have nailed it here, there is no doubt a lot of them look physically fucked. This "the players are just shite" cant explain how they could look so good before new year and plumb the depths they are now. It doesn't add up. There is no doubt a few who are a bit mentally weak but for the whole groups performance to go to shit so dramatically needs some explaining. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,148 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, Bristol loyal said: Said it before but hearing the phrase ‘mini pre season’ sets alarm bells ringing for me. The players had played over 30 games in half a season the break was supposed to be for rest not to run them into the ground. I’d be very interested to see how the European teams that have winter breaks do it because I’d bet the majority don’t do intensive training as we apparently do. Its the exact same mistake as last season and for that serious questions must be asked of the management team. So who’s pushing them Gerrard or Beale? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoodyBlue1872 3,078 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, hammer93 said: A rumour I heard an hour ago was that there was some sort of fallout from Dubai, apparently whatever they did the previous year in Spain got changed because of the collapse after the winter break....anyway apparently the Dubai week was treated as a pre season and the players got hammered, this led to the more senior players having a go at Gerrard apparently.....it could be utter bollocks but it certainly would fit the theory that some posters had a couple of weeks ago It is utter bollocks. 1. Look at the training photos and videos. Plenty smiles and laughs. And players saying good workout in interviews. Players like Defoe are not going to bullshit. 2. I attended the fans function in Dubai and spoke to several players. All seemed in good spirits and said it had been a great week. And I also spent some time with some after the Tashkent game where there was plenty of happy faces. Can we please drop this "issues in Dubai" bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eosmhdo 1,879 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Just now, Bad Robot said: So who’s pushing them Gerrard or Beale? The sad bit about that statement is there shouldn’t be a question here. Gerrard should be in supreme control and if he isn’t making ALL the decisions we have a problem imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookWorm 4,123 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, Terry Hurlock Loyal said: A bust up but McAllister says no. It must be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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