Del 667 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: What awful games for ages had katic played? How long have you got... Katic might have scored against celtic but defensively he was poor. Have away the PK and the 2chances they had cleared off the line were due to him losing his marker and being beaten in the air twice from corners. Against Stranraer and St Mirren he never had anything to do defensively but on the ball he was terrible and give it away so many times it was unreal (something that I think costs us a lot when attacking as he is so slow and erratic with the ball). Against Hearts again he wasnt great, although you will probably blame Goldson for slipping and say that was his mistake 😄 Katic again wasnt great against Ross County and particuarly against Aberdeen on the ball he was woeful, he almost sets up Ferguson by cushioning a header down for him and then literally gives Cosgrove the ball (Goldson-esque) to run clear through, he passed the ball out of play 3 times with noone near him that game! He misses the next 2 games and is back in for Livi, another game where there wasnt much to do defensively but he gives the ball away constantly, the only efforts they have at goal is due to his poor defending, the first he completely misses the ball attempting a header and wipes out Goldson at their throw in, the 2nd he wins the ball in the air but just knocks it down, he then doesnt get anywhere near Dykes who hits the post. We all remember what happened against Braga, his "defending" for their 2nd goal is embarrassing and overall that night he was bad, then followed that up with an ever worse performance against St Johnstone. He has been poor for ages Katic, maybe not defensively poor, especially in the games where we didnt have to defend, but when we are dominating possession trying to break teams down and he is taking 3-4 touches before playing a 5 yard pass or kicking it out of play, it costs us more than his erratic defending! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,373 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: It’s going to end up with individual players, that fans think are untouchable, being booed. Tbh, There’s no-one to replace Tav or Goldson (unless a youth)at the moment but they absolutely must be upgraded in the summer. Goldson was booed the first few times he got the ball after the goal on Wednesday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,805 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Just now, ForeverAndEver said: Goldson was booed the first few times he got the ball after the goal on Wednesday Him and Tav will be the two to be targeted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Taking all that's gone on in only these last two months....... Plummeting form. First picking the bum chums when they are consistently dug shite. The inconsistency of hanging certain players out to dry, whilst protecting others. Alfie gets dropped for the Hearts game and very publicly humiliated. Making a pathetic statement after the Hearts pumping, needing 24-48 hours to think. Ffs., Kent blithering losers pish. Tav blithering even bigger losers pish. The super captain shitting the bed and runnng away at tge Hamilton game. Andy having to step up and make a statement when the clusterfuck had nothing to do with him, whilst the the spineless two faced manager and his band of shite bags go into hiding. Our super shitebag captain Gerrard statement that he could be ready to return for the weekend. The Gerrard Goldson only human statement, so a start for him Sunday. I am seeing our spineless two faced excuse of a manager for the off and many players very glad of it! If he doesn't we are dead in the water in more ways than one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobar 13,676 Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 Let’s not make this a Katic vs Goldson debate, that’s not the point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,689 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said: Taking all that's gone on in only these last two months....... Plummeting form. First picking the bum chums when they are consistently dug shite. The inconsistency of hanging certain players out to dry, whilst protecting others. Alfie gets dropped for the Hearts game and very publicly humiliated. Making a pathetic statement after the Hearts pumping, needing 24-48 hours to think. Ffs., Kent blithering losers pish. Tav blithering even bigger losers pish. The super captain shitting the bed and runnng away at tge Hamilton game. Andy having to step up and make a statement when the clusterfuck had nothing to do with him, whilst the the spineless two faced manager and his band of shite bags go into hiding. Our super shitebag captain Gerrard statement that he could be ready to return for the weekend. The Gerrard Goldson only human statement, so a start for him Sunday. I am seeing our spineless two faced excuse of a manager for the off and many players very glad of it! If he doesn't we are dead in the water in more ways than one! Fuck me man, go for a drink! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,805 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Folk can’t honestly expect is to go into next four games with a defence of Polster/Flanagan, Katic, Edmundson and Barisic. Idiotic playing Leverkusen and Tarriers with that defence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc holliday 1,653 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 The really maddening reality is they can turn it on when they want to..make no mistake. The facts bear that out indisputably.The prima donnas in the team need a reality check. It is fine to dine out on the finest steak when the opportunity arises but the basic fare still has to be consumed whether you like it or not. Put in the endeavour,effort,concentration and commitment. Other teams won't crumble when they think you have a dodgy mentality and are prone to leaving the back door open. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,622 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 14 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said: Taking all that's gone on in only these last two months....... Plummeting form. First picking the bum chums when they are consistently dug shite. The inconsistency of hanging certain players out to dry, whilst protecting others. Alfie gets dropped for the Hearts game and very publicly humiliated. Making a pathetic statement after the Hearts pumping, needing 24-48 hours to think. Ffs., Kent blithering losers pish. Tav blithering even bigger losers pish. The super captain shitting the bed and runnng away at tge Hamilton game. Andy having to step up and make a statement when the clusterfuck had nothing to do with him, whilst the the spineless two faced manager and his band of shite bags go into hiding. Our super shitebag captain Gerrard statement that he could be ready to return for the weekend. The Gerrard Goldson only human statement, so a start for him Sunday. I am seeing our spineless two faced excuse of a manager for the off and many players very glad of it! If he doesn't we are dead in the water in more ways than one! Cheerleader turns psycho assassin in the blink of an eye 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del 667 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Its some leap by the attacker 😂😂 The killie boy lept higher As for no immediate danger when the st johnstone boy flicked it on, im waiting to see the immediate danger when the killie boy did exactly the same Your defence of goldson is admirable, but to solely blame katic for st johnstone goal, but give katic large blame for the killie goal, when they are carbon copy goals, is unreal It's pointless continuing this with you mate to be honest... Although you keep saying they are carbon copies, the situations arent comparable! Katic was responsible for defending a long ball at a goal kick, that was all he had to focus on, but he lost the header the flick on bounces about 25-30yards from goal, Brophy beats Goldson for pace and scores. Neither is blameless but short of trying to pull Brophy down I dont see what else Goldson could have done? At worst they are equally to blame but you need to expect better from Katic attacking that ball! Other than the fact that a St Johnstone player happened to flick on a ball, there is no comparison between the two goals. Goldson's is reacting to an incident that happens during play...he needs to be ready for the ball going in behind, played into feet, to the striker near him, dropping to the side of him all sorts of scenarios, and as the play develops it gets headed clear by a St Johnstone defender, the attacker is closer to the ball and quicker than him and Goldson doesnt challenge him in their air as he cant get to the ball in time, which is not his fault, and he defends that situation correctly! Once the ball is flicked on Goldson isnt involved any more, its all Katic, and he needs to deal with that ball! There is noone else to blame for that chance being given up other than Katic. As others have said McGregor doesnt cover himself in glory and maybe even Halliday to do more, but not Goldson! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, bluenoz said: Fuck me man, go for a drink! Against my religion. Malignancy is hard to face, but it still needs to be excised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris182 6,279 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Not good news this IMO. unlikely to quell those players who may be pissed at a difference in treatment for certain players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Persson 547 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Gerrard has caused doubts quite a few times with his judgement. When he thought about forming a management team, his first and only thought was Gary Mac. Another "best in the business" thing. Had my doubts about that at the time, and still do. Goldson is no Gough or Butcher. Mind you, there isn't a centre half in Scotland who is really any better than Goldson. Scum are scoring enough goals to cover some shaky defenders. It was just page one line one stupid against Hamilton for Goldson to put a foot on the ball and drag it back in that position. So SG right or wrong, does reckon that team is built around Goldson. Cut the errors out big man and get some Bomber Jackson vids for a look at no nonsense defending ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 minute ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Cheerleader turns psycho assassin in the blink of an eye 😂 Once that line is crossed shit happens and he's now crossed it several times since Saturday. Proving himself to be the spineless two faced back stabbing bitch that in reality he always was. Just takes longer for some, as they wilt under the pressure of their own failings. Andy's statement was the red flag moment. However, it's nothing personal and he has been given a lot of slack as well as money after all. Thing is, he is doing a remarkable job of hanging himself, ably assisted by his bum chums and what is also as remarkable is that his ego is that big he still can't see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,689 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Orange Persson said: Gerrard has caused doubts quite a few times with his judgement. When he thought about forming a management team, his first and only thought was Gary Mac. Another "best in the business" thing. Had my doubts about that at the time, and still do. Goldson is no Gough or Butcher. Mind you, there isn't a centre half in Scotland who is really any better than Goldson. Scum are scoring enough goals t You make a good point. The 3 cb's at celtic can also be brutal on their day but it's less noticed if you score more and that has been our biggest problem of all in 2020. However, we have conceded some howlers this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdmiralBlue 84 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Valance1690 said: As everybody has thought all along..hes got his favourites in the squad & that wont change, he'll fling others under the bus but left certain players away with whatever they want. That amongst a list of other things are why he shouldve been out the door this week. Get ready for basically the same team to be picked on Sunday and we'll play the same way Bang on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristoe1872 2,541 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 This is just one of quite a few reasons why it's obvious this "experiment" isn't going to work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,360 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, ForeverAndEver said: Goldson was booed the first few times he got the ball after the goal on Wednesday Quite right as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristoe1872 2,541 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Orange Persson said: Mind you, there isn't a centre half in Scotland who is really any better than Goldson The lad at Hamilton would do a better job than this bombscare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornabear 6,201 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Gerrard has shown his lack of managerial skills in his backing of his 2 bosom buddies, whether or not Katic cost us a goal. Managers must, at all times, show consistency when dealing with like for like situations, whether or not Katic cost us a goal. In Gerrard's eyes, certain players are immune to the same punishment, ( if you want to call it that), where certain players are dropped for playing poor and/ or being at fault where a goal was scored, whether or not it was the fault of Katic . In fact, a certain player (no name, no pack drill) writes drivel about pressure, but that's ok by Mr G, maybe that too was Katic's fault, who knows ? We have yet another managerial failure to add to the list since 2012, Katic wasn't here then so it's certainly not his fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog 10,673 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Gerrard is going to go with Tavernier and Goldson and we just have to accept that. The club means more to the fans than these guys and the club needs the fans more. When the game starts on Sunday the fans need to, no matter what people think, back every player to the hilt. They have admitted they can’t accept the pressures so back them and let’s see if that works. If not then they can fuck off with the shite excuses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,377 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, Dave Hedgehog said: Gerrard is going to go with Tavernier and Goldson and we just have to accept that. The club means more to the fans than these guys and the club needs the fans more. When the game starts on Sunday the fans need to, no matter what people think, back every player to the hilt. They have admitted they can’t accept the pressures so back them and let’s see if that works. If not then they can fuck off with the shite excuses. Fuck that. They deserve to get booed off the pitch from the get go. Let them know what real pressure is. We've backed them for nearly 2 seasons now with fuck all to show for it. Doesnt matter what the result on Sunday is so fuck them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,689 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 16 minutes ago, Dave Hedgehog said: Gerrard is going to go with Tavernier and Goldson and we just have to accept that. The club means more to the fans than these guys and the club needs the fans more. When the game starts on Sunday the fans need to, no matter what people think, back every player to the hilt. They have admitted they can’t accept the pressures so back them and let’s see if that works. If not then they can fuck off with the shite excuses. When two players admit they can't handle the pressure, I'm afraid they deserve anything that is coming to them. Still can't believe a captain of Rangers said that. In a club programme as well !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog 10,673 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, esquire8 said: Fuck that. They deserve to get booed off the pitch from the get go. Let them know what real pressure is. We've backed them for nearly 2 seasons now with fuck all to show for it. Doesnt matter what the result on Sunday is so fuck them. I know where you are coming from but I will never not care if Rangers win or not in any league match. Booing them won’t help one jot. They are confirmed shitebags but the club is more important than them. 👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog 10,673 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Just now, bluenoz said: When two players admit they can't handle the pressure, I'm afraid they deserve anything that is coming to them. Rangers are more important than they two players. If they are selected then booing them doesn’t help the team on the park. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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