Dave Hedgehog 10,673 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: Whats fair about treating different countries with different circumstances and differing rulebooks the same? What’s fair about treating everyone the same? Seriously? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsitgoing 4,281 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dave Hedgehog said: Never questioned in the correct manner 👍 Why would an individual football club be in a position to change the structure of the league thinking it’s appropriate for them to circulate an non official document to other clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, Dave Hedgehog said: What’s fair about treating everyone the same? Seriously? Its not treating everyone the same though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog 10,673 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: Its not treating everyone the same though. Of course it is. No one is getting treated differently. Null and void for everyone or positions stand for everyone. It’s the same either way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomatasauce 1,253 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, The Dude said: Its not treating everyone the same though. IMG_2872.MP4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsitgoing 4,281 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 27 minutes ago, Dave Hedgehog said: Of course it is. No one is getting treated differently. Null and void for everyone or positions stand for everyone. It’s the same either way. The contract has the provision to be frustrated which in turn would make that contract void at time of termination and no winner can be declared as its undecided. No club would be able to argue against that, legally anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Dave Hedgehog said: I don’t recall saying it should be a vote, too many vested interests for me. UEFA should decide. Treat everyone the same. That’s fair 👍 UEFA are more corrupt than the scum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog 10,673 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Malvern said: UEFA are more corrupt than the scum. Corrupt to the core but I would rather them than the SFA or SPFL to be honest 👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet Jim 897 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 3 hours ago, The Dude said: So what do you want the leagues to do? they can't make a decision because that's corrupt, they can't have a vote because that's corrupt. 1 - At the suspension of play mathematical probability could estimate the final standings based on games completed. 2 - Player suspensions, injuries and the human factor over the remaining games would have to be applied, to give a revised final standing. 3 - Given that all things equal were not in play at the time of suspension, causes an anomaly. Calling the league finished at the halfway point has less variables and makes more mathematical sense than calling it skewed. All things equal or null and void. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 29 minutes ago, Quiet Jim said: 1 - At the suspension of play mathematical probability could estimate the final standings based on games completed. 2 - Player suspensions, injuries and the human factor over the remaining games would have to be applied, to give a revised final standing. 3 - Given that all things equal were not in play at the time of suspension, causes an anomaly. Calling the league finished at the halfway point has less variables and makes more mathematical sense than calling it skewed. All things equal or null and void. He can't answer until he speaks with his boss in the rhebel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 22,717 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 11 hours ago, Dave Hedgehog said: What’s fair about treating everyone the same? Seriously? Classic from our very own Oswald Mosley. Well played, Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1872 20,651 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 https://theathletic.co.uk/1702521/2020/03/27/coronavirus-premier-league-null-void-abandon/ Looks like the EPL are swaying towards null and void. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKnight87 17,281 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 44 minutes ago, B1872 said: https://theathletic.co.uk/1702521/2020/03/27/coronavirus-premier-league-null-void-abandon/ Looks like the EPL are swaying towards null and void. If this is true I expect the spfl to follow suit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog 10,673 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 If they don’t make it all null and void in this time of a pandemic the people at the top of the game should be chased. There will be no football being played for the foreseeable future, certainly way beyond their stupid June 30th deadline. End it now and allow clubs to do what’s necessary to keep themselves going. Not one team anywhere has won their league, being top is not an entitlement to be caleed the winner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 10 hours ago, Quiet Jim said: 1 - At the suspension of play mathematical probability could estimate the final standings based on games completed. 2 - Player suspensions, injuries and the human factor over the remaining games would have to be applied, to give a revised final standing. 3 - Given that all things equal were not in play at the time of suspension, causes an anomaly. Calling the league finished at the halfway point has less variables and makes more mathematical sense than calling it skewed. All things equal or null and void. So what happens to clubs who were promoted last season? Do they now get a payment based on being in a lower division they are currently in? 1. There wouldn't be any use of probability. It would be on games that have actually been played. 2. The remaining games are postponed. There wouldn't be some sort of 'pools panel' results being formulated. 3. There are anomalies in the Scottish Premiership most season. All things arent equal in any given season (one team having three home games v one club, rivals have three away games for example) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 10 hours ago, Malvern said: He can't answer until he speaks with his boss in the rhebel. I thought Lawwell was calling the shots? Why would I need to speak to someone at a paper I haven't written for in a year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
superallysbears 7,572 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 I believe it will be null and void, imo it's only right to start again when it's safe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog 10,673 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, superallysbears said: I believe it will be null and void, imo it's only right to start again when it's safe. Exactly. Start the next season as if this one is restarting. Its fair on everyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet Jim 897 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 1 hour ago, The Dude said: So what happens to clubs who were promoted last season? Do they now get a payment based on being in a lower division they are currently in? 1. There wouldn't be any use of probability. It would be on games that have actually been played. 2. The remaining games are postponed. There wouldn't be some sort of 'pools panel' results being formulated. 3. There are anomalies in the Scottish Premiership most season. All things arent equal in any given season (one team having three home games v one club, rivals have three away games for example) Out of interest if a team was awarded the title does that equate to winning it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog 10,673 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, Quiet Jim said: Out of interest if a team was awarded the title does that equate to winning it? It’s as tainted as it gets. Definitely not a win 👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZed 4,510 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Rangers and sceptic declared joint winners, with * beside it to show league was not completed. 4 teams from Championship promoted, no relegation, equals a top league of 16 and the other leagues reconstructed in to 2 leagues. Problem solved. Scotland should now be entitled to 2 teams in the Champions League if the coefficient is held where it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Quiet Jim said: Out of interest if a team was awarded the title does that equate to winning it? If a team is awarded the title they'll be regarded as the winners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,123 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Oh dear, never mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyG91 5,510 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Said it from the start. The league needs ripped up and thrown out. Would be the same if it were us sitting at the top. The difference between us and them is we have some dignity and morals. We've had to do it before and would do it again. That lot will find any excuse to have it awarded to them. What does it matter if they didn't complete the season? What does it matter if there's a global pandemic? They'll happily count it. The seasons done. Whenever we can then just start a new season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog 10,673 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 4 hours ago, The Dude said: If a team is awarded the title they'll be regarded as the winners. It doesn’t equate to winning it though. 👍 Because they didn’t actually win it. Any team handed a win will have the biggest taint next to it. Liverpool havent moaned and they have went 30 years without the league, they know the taint will spoil it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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