STEPPS BOY 73,171 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, British_Empire said: You don't have to say that, though. This is us trying our hardest to appease the rest of Scottish football again. Do you honestly think it will win us votes against celtic being declared champions? They’re re-affirming there’s another option and by pleading case of clubs threatened with relegation looking to sway others votes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, eskbankloyal said: Think that’s overly harsh at this stage. It has sensible suggestions in it but the longer term picture wont change Maybe, but it immediately seems like a step away from we won't accept titles being awarded etc. The funding suggestion is sensible - although it gives no suggestion on how the club thinks said monies should be distributed - would it be on current positions etc? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 41,914 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, British_Empire said: Scottish football does not have one ounce of dignity or sense of sporting integrity. Do you think it will influence things in our favour one bit? not a chance. Dreamland stuff. Nope but we have to be seen to standing up for the clubs that need that money. We are saying give it to them now with no attachment. Then let them decide what happens. Sporting Integrity means null n void if its unable to complete, not ending it now and declaring relegations, promotions and champions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
British_Empire 9,648 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, STEPPS BOY said: They’re re-affirming there’s another option and by pleading case of clubs threatened with relegation looking to sway others votes. I get that. It's not lost on me. But it won't work. It makes us look like arse kissers as usual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
British_Empire 9,648 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, esquire8 said: Nope but we have to be seen to standing up for the clubs that need that money. We are saying give it to them now with no attachment. Then let them decide what happens. Sporting Integrity means null n void if its unable to complete, not ending it now and declaring relegations, promotions and champions. We are in agreement regards the outcome (or what it should be) I do not agree with the clubs tactic here. It opens us up for another shafting. Makes us look even weaker than we do usually in regards to fighting battles - which takes some doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoodyBlue1872 3,078 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Clubs aren't going to vote with Rangers. Who are we fucking kidding?! As I said at the start I just wish clubs in Scotland would all go to the wall so we have justifucstion of moving to England. Absolutely sick of Scottish football and the bitterness and corruption. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,308 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Why would they not just pay out the money you get for finishing bottom to every team to help them out short term , then the extra league place money when it's all sorted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskbankloyal 19,446 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, ger4life_1872 said: Why would they not just pay out the money you get for finishing bottom to every team to help them out short term , then the extra league place money when it's all sorted Because they are effectively blackmailing clubs that they wont receive any prize money unless the vote through the proposal. Rangers are trying to counter that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog 10,673 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, ger4life_1872 said: Why would they not just pay out the money you get for finishing bottom to every team to help them out short term , then the extra league place money when it's all sorted Because celtic, I mean the SPFL need something to use against them 👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisley Blue Loyal 11,058 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, ger4life_1872 said: Why would they not just pay out the money you get for finishing bottom to every team to help them out short term , then the extra league place money when it's all sorted Probably because that's far too sensible and wouldn't shaft Rangers would be my best guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,171 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Give all the clubs what the relegated teams would get and once/if league complete give balance of the money depending on positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoodyBlue1872 3,078 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 We have the likes of Stewart Robertson and Douglas Park in our corner ☹️ I'd advise any bears to completely lower their expectation on any positive outcome for our club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 22,459 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 29 minutes ago, The Dude said: They've been found wanting. As opposed to “we’ve” Really struggling to contain yourself, Timmy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: Give all the clubs what the relegated teams would get and once/if league complete give balance of the money depending on positions. Most of the prize money has already been paid out over the course of the season and every club has already received close to that amount already. There's one single payment left based on final league positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, Colin Traive said: As opposed to “we’ve” Really struggling to contain yourself, Timmy? We'll yes, given I'm not a member of the Rangers board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,011 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 23 minutes ago, British_Empire said: I think I'm in a minority but I think that statement is awful. Why should we care about Scottish football and keeping other teams afloat? where was their concern for us in 2012? We need friends mate, scum are only interested in themselves, like it or not our club is trying to show it cares about the others, we’re bigger than the haters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,287 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, eskbankloyal said: Because they are effectively blackmailing clubs that they wont receive any prize money unless the vote through the proposal. Rangers are trying to counter that yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
British_Empire 9,648 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, ritchieshearercaldow said: We need friends mate, scum are only interested in themselves, like it or not our club is trying to show it cares about the others, we’re bigger than the haters. Friendships are a two-way street, born out of mutual respect. We get no respect from Scotland or Scottish football. We are setting ourselves up to be good guys and mugs in equal measure while celtic still get handed a title they never actually won. After seeing the reaction to this statement, I expect no-one to ever moan about bridge building ever again. This is the ultimate act of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 22,459 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: We'll yes, given I'm not a member of the Rangers board. So a Rangers fan can’t say “we played well” if he’s not one of the first team squad? Keep digging, Declan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, Colin Traive said: So a Rangers fan can’t say “we played well” if he’s not one of the first team squad? Keep digging, Declan Would you like more straws to wildly grasp at? 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoodyBlue1872 3,078 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Our "statements" rarely amount to anything. This one will be no different. Hide behind a holding statement but fail to put any words into action. We need fresh, strong, dynamic, ambitiously aggressive blood on our board at the earliest opportunity. This lot cannot go on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 41,914 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, British_Empire said: I get that. It's not lost on me. But it won't work. It makes us look like arse kissers as usual. We are not arse kissing. What the club have said in that statement is fair and keeps all clubs going, it's not their fault we are all in this situation. What the SPFL have said is vote in favour of this and we will give you your money, if you dont we wont. 2 minutes ago, British_Empire said: We are in agreement regards the outcome (or what it should be) I do not agree with the clubs tactic here. It opens us up for another shafting. Makes us look even weaker than we do usually in regards to fighting battles - which takes some doing. If we get a shafting for this from other clubs then they are declaring Sporting Integrity no longer exists in Scottish football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
British_Empire 9,648 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, esquire8 said: We are not arse kissing. What the club have said in that statement is fair and keeps all clubs going, it's not their fault we are all in this situation. What the SPFL have said is vote in favour of this and we will give you your money, if you dont we wont. If we get a shafting for this from other clubs then they are declaring Sporting Integrity no longer exists in Scottish football. We all know sporting integrity in Scottish football doesn't exist. Why does it take us out with our begging bowl on behalf of people that hate us and/or wanted us dead to prove the point? I'm sorry but I disagree with the top line too. It's the ultimate act of arse-kissing. The general feeling is that this is to curry favour - that's a form of arse-kissing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 51 minutes ago, British_Empire said: I think I'm in a minority but I think that statement is awful. Why should we care about Scottish football and keeping other teams afloat? where was their concern for us in 2012? We need other Scottish clubs to side with us on this issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
British_Empire 9,648 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, TMB said: We need other Scottish clubs to side with us on this issue. I agree. As I keep saying that's not lost on me. But do you really think they will? watch this all for fuck-all, celtic get the title and we've just bent over and been responsible for giving Scottish football money they need to stay affloat in their time of need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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