bluenoz 30,287 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, British_Empire said: We all know sporting integrity in Scottish football doesn't exist. Why does it take us out with our begging bowl on behalf of people that hate us and/or wanted us dead to prove the point? I'm sorry but I disagree with the top line too. It's the ultimate act of arse-kissing. The general feeling is that this is to curry favour - that's a form of arse-kissing. So what do you propose they say? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
British_Empire 9,648 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, bluenoz said: So what do you propose they say? Re-affirm what they opened the statement with about all games need to be completed or the season is null and void. That's all they have to say. Going on about saving Scottish football and wanting them all given money to survive is nausating. They did not have to say that. It's not a binary choice between offering up cash to them all or saying something else, as you're suggesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 22,458 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 28 minutes ago, The Dude said: Would you like more straws to wildly grasp at? 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueboyG 5,137 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Rangers should offer up a counter proposal for all clubs to vote on, Split remaining pot equally amongst all member teams right now and null and void season. That way most clubs would be given a lot more money than they would in normal circumstances. I think most clubs would then vote to null and void except the club's that are in positions to be promoted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, BlueboyG said: Rangers should offer up a counter proposal for all clubs to vote on, Split remaining pot equally amongst all member teams right now and null and void season. That way most clubs would be given a lot more money than they would in normal circumstances. I think most clubs would then vote to null and void except the club's that are in positions to be promoted. Every Premiership club would lose a substantial amount (500k-£1m each) while some League One and Two clubs would be getting two or three seasons worth of prize money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueboyG 5,137 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, The Dude said: Every Premiership club would lose a substantial amount (500k-£1m each) while some League One and Two clubs would be getting two or three seasons worth of prize money. So outside the pl every club would gain substantially ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, BlueboyG said: So outside the pl every club would gain substantially ? Championship clubs get roughly what they would normally - give or take c100k Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,260 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 55 minutes ago, eskbankloyal said: Because they are effectively blackmailing clubs that they wont receive any prize money unless the vote through the proposal. Rangers are trying to counter that Blackmail is a very strong term mate. I fully agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueboyG 5,137 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, The Dude said: Championship clubs get roughly what they would normally - give or take c100k Impossible, if pl clubs lose between 500k -1m each Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,260 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 If the spfl had the position and rules to allow them to end the league they would have done. They dont. So what theyve done is loaded ending it one way, weighted with vital payments being made to clubs, with no counter proposal for ending.... only rejection of that proposal and the tied in payments. Scottish football is corrupt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFTONG 59,868 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 I wonder why admin see fit to restrict posters to 10 post only on the Pandemic situation but allow one certain poster carte Blanche to annoy and antagonize Bears with impunity. Almost to the levels of extreme obsession. Baffling tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, BlueboyG said: Impossible, if pl clubs lose between 500k -1m. Prize money total is 25million with 42 clubs getting an equal share - 600k each. Here's the payouts for last season: Ladbrokes Premiership 1st - 13.40% - £3,350,000 2nd - 9.60% - £2,400,000 3rd - 8.25% - £2,062,500 4th - 7.25% - £1,812,500 5th - 6.75% - £1,687,500 6th - 6.25% - £1,562,500 7th - 5.75% - £1,437,500 8th - 5.50% - £1,375,000 9th - 5.25% - £1,312,500 10th -5.00% - £1,250,000 11th - 4.75% - £1,187,500 12th - 4.50% - £1,125,000 Ladbrokes Championship 1st - 2.25% - £562,500 2nd - 1.90% - £475,000 3rd - 1.60% - £400,000 4th - 1.30% - £325,000 5th - 1.00% - £250,000 6th - 0.90% - £225,000 7th - 0.85% - £212,500 8th - 0.80% - £200,000 9th - 0.75% - £187,500 10th - 0.70% - £175,000 Ladbrokes League 1 1st - 0.50% - £125,000 2nd - 0.43% - £107,500 3rd - 0.35% - £87,500 4th - 0.34% - £85,000 5th - 0.33% - £82,500 6th - 0.32% - £80,000 7th - 0.31% - £77,500 8th - 0.30% - £75,000 9th - 0.29% - £72,500 10th - 0.28% - £70,000 Ladbrokes League 2 1st - 0.27% - £67,500 2nd - 0.26% - £65,000 3rd - 0.25% - £62,500 4th - 0.24% - £60,000 5th - 0.23% - £57,500 6th - 0.22% - £55,000 7th - 0.21% - £52,500 8th - 0.20% - £50,000 9th - 0.19% - £47,500 10th - 0.18% - £45,000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, TEFTONG said: I wonder why admin see fit to restrict posters to 10 post only on the Pandemic situation but allow one certain poster carte Blanche to annoy and antagonize Bears with impunity. Almost to the levels of extreme obsession. Baffling tbh. Posters on this thread posting far more regularly than I have been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,260 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Spfl could have easily put forward a proposal for different ways iof interim payouts being allocated for much needed funds. League ending, promotion, relegation, restructure put on the back burner, none of it conditional to getting money clubs are desperate for dispatched to them. Nothing lost, priority tackled, vital revenues gained. Those above issues could then be reviewed and if no rules cover them ( 38 games does but anyways) , then theres integrity from the authorities that theres no weighting being applied (ie financial) when clubs decide how the league should be concluded. Simple but not corrupt enough for Scotland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Spfl could have easily put forward a proposal for different ways iof interim payouts being allocated for much needed funds. League ending, promotion, relegation, restructure put on the back burner, none of it conditional to getting money clubs are desperate for dispatched to them. Nothing lost, priority tackled, vital revenues gained. Those above issues could then be reviewed and if no rules cover them ( 38 games does but anyways) , then theres integrity from the authorities that theres no weighting being applied (ie financial) when clubs decide how the league should be concluded. Simple but not corrupt enough for Scotland. There's only one payment due to clubs and it is based on their final league position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog 10,673 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 If they give a free title to the Nappy slashers it should only be on the basis it is declared unofficial. Because that’s exactly what it is. 👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 30,304 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 32 minutes ago, BlueboyG said: Rangers should offer up a counter proposal for all clubs to vote on, Split remaining pot equally amongst all member teams right now and null and void season. That way most clubs would be given a lot more money than they would in normal circumstances. I think most clubs would then vote to null and void except the club's that are in positions to be promoted. Too fucking sensible mate. It’s a good proposition and keeps teams alive for next season. No titles awarded. No relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueboyG 5,137 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 17 minutes ago, The Dude said: Prize money total is 25million with 42 clubs getting an equal share - 600k each. Here's the payouts for last season: Ladbrokes Premiership 1st - 13.40% - £3,350,000 2nd - 9.60% - £2,400,000 3rd - 8.25% - £2,062,500 4th - 7.25% - £1,812,500 5th - 6.75% - £1,687,500 6th - 6.25% - £1,562,500 7th - 5.75% - £1,437,500 8th - 5.50% - £1,375,000 9th - 5.25% - £1,312,500 10th -5.00% - £1,250,000 11th - 4.75% - £1,187,500 12th - 4.50% - £1,125,000 Ladbrokes Championship 1st - 2.25% - £562,500 2nd - 1.90% - £475,000 3rd - 1.60% - £400,000 4th - 1.30% - £325,000 5th - 1.00% - £250,000 6th - 0.90% - £225,000 7th - 0.85% - £212,500 8th - 0.80% - £200,000 9th - 0.75% - £187,500 10th - 0.70% - £175,000 Ladbrokes League 1 1st - 0.50% - £125,000 2nd - 0.43% - £107,500 3rd - 0.35% - £87,500 4th - 0.34% - £85,000 5th - 0.33% - £82,500 6th - 0.32% - £80,000 7th - 0.31% - £77,500 8th - 0.30% - £75,000 9th - 0.29% - £72,500 10th - 0.28% - £70,000 Ladbrokes League 2 1st - 0.27% - £67,500 2nd - 0.26% - £65,000 3rd - 0.25% - £62,500 4th - 0.24% - £60,000 5th - 0.23% - £57,500 6th - 0.22% - £55,000 7th - 0.21% - £52,500 8th - 0.20% - £50,000 9th - 0.19% - £47,500 10th - 0.18% - £45,000 As I said every club outside SPL would gain so would accept it bar the ones who are looking at promotion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet Jim 897 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, The Dude said: There's only one payment due to clubs and it is based on their final league position. There's only one way to win a league and that is based on their final league position after all games are played, set by the rules preceding the commencement of the competition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, BlueboyG said: As I said every club outside SPL would gain so would accept it bar the ones who are looking at promotion. And the 12 premiership teams would almost certainly vote against it. Killing it stone dead. Think Hamilton or St. Mirren are going to volunteer away money to help strengthen others when they aren't exactly flush themselves? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Quiet Jim said: There's only one way to win a league and that is based on their final league position after all games are played, set by the rules preceding the commencement of the competition. In normal circumstances, I'd totally agree. We're not in normal circumstances now. If we're going with the rules set at the commencement of the competition, the proposal put to clubs falls within those. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacBoyd 5,328 Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share Posted April 8, 2020 24 minutes ago, TEFTONG said: I wonder why admin see fit to restrict posters to 10 post only on the Pandemic situation but allow one certain poster carte Blanche to annoy and antagonize Bears with impunity. Almost to the levels of extreme obsession. Baffling tbh. Pathetic tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet Jim 897 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, The Dude said: In normal circumstances, I'd totally agree. We're not in normal circumstances now. If we're going with the rules set at the commencement of the competition, the proposal put to clubs falls within those. Aye, 2019-2020 * Voted champions sounds about right to me. No one will ever convince me otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, Quiet Jim said: Aye, 2019-2020 * Voted champions sounds about right to me. No one will ever convince me otherwise. That's what I've said it'll look like from the very start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 30,304 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 If there’s 25 mil prize money and season can’t be finished then to keep Scottish football alive just split all monies between all 42 teams equally. It’s a fucking no brainer to keep the game alive. Extreme measures for extreme times. No titles for this season rewarded and no relegation either. This is where we see how they think about the good of the game and use sporting integrity, morals and ethics for this one season only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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