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3 minutes ago, Quiet Jim said:

*Awarded or won under the same rules as the eight before?

Technically, won under the same rules as before although they reached a different method to get there.

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29 minutes ago, The Dude said:

Technically, won under the same rules as before although they reached a different method to get there.

Ok *2019 - 2020 Technical Winners

Surely not the same as the last eight, there is no logical argument to say otherwise. 

I will always remember the last time we were in a similar situation. 

To you Sir Walter:

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/the-story-of-marseilles-tainted-1993-cup-triumph-2222683.html

 

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22 minutes ago, Quiet Jim said:

Ok *2019 - 2020 Technical Winners

Surely not the same as the last eight, there is no logical argument to say otherwise. 

I will always remember the last time we were in a similar situation. 

To you Sir Walter:

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/the-story-of-marseilles-tainted-1993-cup-triumph-2222683.html

 

Anyone with a brain will see they didn’t win the league. 👍

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19 minutes ago, MacBoyd said:

Any easy way to explain it to the dude though?

They'll get the trophy, the prize money and the CL spot. Call it whatever you want but they'll get the exact same as who won it last season and who wins it next season. 

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1 minute ago, The Dude said:

They'll get the trophy, the prize money and the CL spot. Call it whatever you want but they'll get the exact same as who won it last season and who wins it next season. 

Without winning it. That's what you can't seem to understand and respect why Rangers fans particularly, but indeed any fair minded football supporter would find this un fair.

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4 minutes ago, MacBoyd said:

Without winning it. That's what you can't seem to understand and respect why Rangers fans particularly, but indeed any fair minded football supporter would find this un fair.

I completely get they won't have won it by the usual standards. I've said as much for several weeks but folk seem to keep missing that part. 

Theres no fair way of doing it. Null and void is unfair, rolling it back is unfair, PPG is unfair so unless you've got a time machine and a cure for coronavirus, there's going to be an unfair outcome. This, imo, is the least unfair of them all. 

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Just now, The Dude said:

I completely get they won't have won it by the usual standards. I've said as much for several weeks but folk seem to keep missing that part. 

Theres no fair way of doing it. Null and void is unfair, rolling it back is unfair, PPG is unfair so unless you've got a time machine and a cure for coronavirus, there's going to be an unfair outcome. This, imo, is the least unfair of them all. 

"Usual standards" jesus wept.

They have not won the championship. They should not be given it.

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Just now, MacBoyd said:

"Usual standards" jesus wept.

They have not won the championship. They should not be given it.

So what do you propose because null and void isn't on the table (and won't be on the table) and the season won't be getting restarted?

 

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Just now, MacBoyd said:

"Usual standards" jesus wept.

They have not won the championship. They should not be given it.

celtic haven’t won the league.

Hearts haven’t been relegated.

To give they cunts a title and relegate Hearts is as far from fair as you can get 👍

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2 minutes ago, Dave Hedgehog said:

celtic haven’t won the league.

Hearts haven’t been relegated.

To give they cunts a title and relegate Hearts is as far from fair as you can get 👍

As is wiping 80% of a season and forcing clubs to spend an extra season in a lower tier. 

 

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Just now, The Dude said:

So what do you propose because null and void isn't on the table (and won't be on the table) and the season won't be getting restarted?

 

Well you said this is fairer. Why is giving a team a title they haven't won fairer than abandoning the season where nothing has been won or lost yet?

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Just now, MacBoyd said:

Well you said this is fairer. Why is giving a team a title they haven't won fairer than abandoning the season where nothing has been won or lost yet?

You are wasting your time mate. 👍

 

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10 minutes ago, MacBoyd said:

Well you said this is fairer. Why is giving a team a title they haven't won fairer than abandoning the season where nothing has been won or lost yet?

Because it will cost clubs financially. Null and void will breach commercial deals. 

How would prize money and Euro places be determined? Is it fair Killie get another shot at the Europa League after getting scudded by some Welsh boozer last season? 

They'll be given it on the basis of games played. I think that's fairer than just pretending like the last eight months haven't happened. 

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Just now, Blumhoilann said:

Makes ya wonder if it's his love for the taigs or his hatred of being shown to be wrong? 😞

 

When the last round of games had been played no one had won the league. 

That is still the case.

When the last round of games had been played no one had been relegated.

That is still the case.

In the lower leagues no one had been promoted and no one had been relegated.

That is still the case.

Null and void will keep all of that intact. 

But apparently that’s not fair 😂😂😂

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Just now, The Dude said:

Because it will cost clubs financially. Null and void will breach commercial deals. 

How would prize money and Euro places be determined? Is it fair Killie get another shot at the Europa League after getting scudded by some Welsh boozer last season? 

They'll be given it on the basis of games played. I think that's fairer than just pretending like the last eight months haven't happened. 

How would it if money is spread evenly and given now? Can't positions be upheld with no un won trophies gifted?

Can't restructuring happen this way?

The 8 months happened but was abandoned, do you not think this makes a lot more sense?

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16 minutes ago, The Dude said:

As is wiping 80% of a season and forcing clubs to spend an extra season in a lower tier. 

 

That would be unfortunate for the clubs who would be affected but none of them had actually won anything yet so they aren't being robbed of anything, they can try again next season. 

However, declaring that a club is relegated without allowing for them to play all of the games is a farce and is abhorrent as the Rangers statement says. Also farcical declaring a club champions when the club below them could have caught them had the full number of games been played.

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1 minute ago, MacBoyd said:

How would it if money is spread evenly and given now? Can't positions be upheld with no un won trophies gifted?

Can't restructuring happen this way?

The 8 months happened but was abandoned, do you not think this makes a lot more sense?

Because if it is spread evenly Premiership teams lose out and Brechin City get 13 years worth of prize money. 

We'd lose roughly 2m in prize money. 

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1 minute ago, Amato said:

That would be unfortunate for the clubs who would be affected but none of them had actually won anything yet so they aren't being robbed of anything, they can try again next season. 

However, declaring that a club is relegated without allowing for them to play all of the games is a farce and is abhorrent as the Rangers statement says. Also farcical declaring a club champions when the club below them could have caught them had the full number of games been played.

Correct 👏👏👏

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Just now, The Dude said:

Because if it is spread evenly Premiership teams lose out and Brechin City get 13 years worth of prize money. 

We'd lose roughly 2m in prize money. 

The smaller clubs need the money most in these unprecedented times. It would help the game survive and would avoid celtic being gifted a title for being ahead 3/4s of a way through the season.

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1 minute ago, Amato said:

That would be unfortunate for the clubs who would be affected but none of them had actually won anything yet so they aren't being robbed of anything, they can try again next season. 

However, declaring that a club is relegated without allowing for them to play all of the games is a farce and is abhorrent as the Rangers statement says. Also farcical declaring a club champions when the club below them could have caught them had the full number of games been played.

The club below couldn't catch them now as the games are never going to be played - Unless someone can cure coronavirus, find a way to play the games and have pre-season before August. 

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Just now, MacBoyd said:

The smaller clubs need the money most in these unprecedented times. It would help the game survive and would avoid celtic being gifted a title for being ahead 3/4s of a way through the season.

Brechin need 650k when they would only normally get 45k? Most of the smaller clubs (particularly L1 and L2) can furlough their players and staff and absorb much of the hit that way. 

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