Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Just now, eskbankloyal said: Not sure football clubs will be treated any differently than every other business that is impacted. As MM said above there is a way to let the. Clubs survive until next seasons ST money kicks in. Also the fans have to think of their clubs and knock back any refund they are due. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Just now, The Dude said: Thats fine if you stand to gain from it, if you stand to lose out then its a different matter. If the season is not complete, it should not be counted IMO. It genuinely is a case of sporting integrity. Lets face it, the Champions League and Europa Leagues are not going to be completed this year, so its not fair for the clubs who entered this year to have had absolutely no chance to win the tournament. It should revert back to who qualified at the end of last season. No winners in the SPFL, no winners in Europe. Killie can get pumped out again by some welsh fishermen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 22,459 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, eskbankloyal said: Agreed. But they’ll keep going until it happens. Or until the scum are mathematically uncatchable. At that point, the sigh of relief in SPFL/SFA offices will be like a sonic boom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: Not quite true. The champions are the team at the end of the Season. The SPFL define the season as after the last league game or another date decided by the board. So who wins the Scottish Cup?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Dude said: Not quite true. The champions are the team at the end of the Season. The SPFL define the season as after the last league game or another date decided by the board. Would the decision have to go down to a vote of the member clubs? If so, is it now 3 clubs that have to object to stop a motion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,062 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Dude said: Not quite true. The champions are the team at the end of the Season. The SPFL define the season as after the last league game or another date decided by the board. Yeah? Last league game from full schedule agreed at the start of the season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookWorm 4,023 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: That’s it then, going to be a long long close season Going to be nuts on here come July/August. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Colin Traive said: Or until the scum are mathematically uncatchable. At that point, the sigh of relief in SPFL/SFA offices will be like a sonic boom. If they play closed doors games until they can’t be caught then shut down the league we might as well just give up. football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Just now, Courtyard Bear said: So who wins the Scottish Cup?? Its much easier to declare a knockout cup void than it is a league. Clubs won't base their budget etc on the Scottish Cup and it's not the difference between part time and full time for clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Just now, BookWorm said: Going to be nuts on here come July/August. Going to be nuts come May. 😂😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 minute ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: Would the decision have to go down to a vote of the member clubs? If so, is it now 3 clubs that have to object to stop a motion? Im not sure on that one yet but it would likely need to go to a vote of clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,062 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 minute ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: Would the decision have to go down to a vote of the member clubs? If so, is it now 3 clubs that have to object to stop a motion? Rangers, Hearts and whichever team isn’t in the european spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,062 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Courtyard Bear said: If they play closed doors games until they can’t be caught then shut down the league we might as well just give up. football There is the relegation battle to consider also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Just now, The Dude said: Its much easier to declare a knockout cup void than it is a league. Clubs won't base their budget etc on the Scottish Cup and it's not the difference between part time and full time for clubs. What’s the difference though when it comes to Sporting integrity, you can’t be handed a league title you haven’t won. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,062 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, LegendofCoop said: Fuck Hamilton and the likes. Don't recall much empathy from them back in 2012. They wanted us dead.....still do. Rancid waste of a football club. Any club that can only average a home gate of around 1000 doesn't deserve to be a top flight club anyway! Think you’ve missed the point here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Just now, The Dude said: Im not sure on that one yet but it would likely need to go to a vote of clubs. If it goes down to a vote and its a 3 team veto needed, there is no way it will pass. No way are we or the two teams in the relegation zone voting it through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Just now, Leeds_Bear said: There is the relegation battle to consider also. That’s why the only way to go about it is simply the whole Season void. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 22,459 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, The Dude said: Not quite true. The champions are the team at the end of the Season. The SPFL define the season as after the last league game or another date decided by the board. They also stipulate the number of fixtures. You can’t say “we’ll apply this rule but overlook that one” If the season is incomplete, then it cannot possibly count, the only exception being, for example, where the final set of games are dead rubbers with champions, European qualification and relegation all already resolved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookWorm 4,023 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Just now, Courtyard Bear said: Going to be nuts come May. 😂😂 Yip. 👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,062 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Just now, Courtyard Bear said: That’s why the only way to go about it is simply the whole Season void. I’m with you. For no other reason than public health and sporting integrity . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,062 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Colin Traive said: They also stipulate the number of fixtures. You can’t say “we’ll apply this rule but overlook that one” If the season is incomplete, then it cannot possibly count, the only exception being, for example, where the final set of games are dead rubbers with champions, European qualification and relegation all already resolved. That’s what I thought I said back to him, can you clarify this point Dude? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Leeds_Bear said: Yeah? Last league game from full schedule agreed at the start of the season? "Season means the period of the year commencing on the date of the first League Match in a Season and ending on the date of the last League Match in the same Season or otherwise as determined by the Board and which excludes the Close Season;" https://spfl.co.uk/admin/filemanager/files/shares/SPFL Rules and Regulations 22-Jul-19.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Just now, Courtyard Bear said: That’s why the only way to go about it is simply the whole Season void. They have two options. Void the season, or find some compromise that enough clubs like to not veto it. This would be restructure position. If it is voided, which I think is the fairest way of doing it, the clubs that qualified at the end of last season should get the euro places. Bit shit as it gives them another shot at the champions league when it could have been us. But we all have to compromise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendofCoop 17,148 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Leeds_Bear said: Think you’ve missed the point here. Maybe I have. However, if these small clubs fold....regardless of the situation, I won't be shedding a tear and waving a hanky! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Dickie said: German teams will be giving fans refunds on season tickets,see if gerrard will chip in to refund us. I wouldn’t want a refund, we need every penny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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