SIRB_72 3,987 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 If the club were to refund the remaining five games it would cost the club millions and potentially a Ianis Hagi or another good player to add to our club. Everyone is different and everyone is entitled to their own view on it. For me this is how I support the club by purchasing my season ticket, other tickets, a top etc etc. As well as being fans we are the biggest group of investors at the club and what we put in from a fan basis and a financial basis aids the club to no end. I'd rather the club kept my (roughly) £150 and used it to help us get better for next season and the year after and so on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhrfc 2,242 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 No refunds. Close thread. If you are not happy go and support Partick or Queens Park. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 7 hours ago, Blue Avenger said: Can't see any issue at all with most not wanting a refund. Sadly though, there is that elephant in the room of a 10 mill hole in the accounts that not even no refunds on ST's will cure. King steps down in two weeks and we still await the announcement of a new Chairman and new investment. This virus is increasing the uncertainty for many clubs, so the board need to be getting their act together and getting something out there as soon as to our future. Much chatter on FF on this subject and fans just wanting to know what's happening. Could be an option NBA salary cap, player incomes for next season likely to drop as consequence of coronavirus https://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/nba-salary-cap-player-incomes-drop-coronavirus/542217 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,514 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 If the clubs insurance policy allows us them to refund us without losing money does that change anyone’s opinion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heshootshescores 1,904 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 On 14/03/2020 at 00:26, eejay the dj said: 100% .Not interested yet it would be nice if the club would reward the ST holders next season .Maybe a book of complementary stuff for the kiosks like they used to do That would be appreciated This. A sincere gesture of appreciation from the club would be well received. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBagalag 721 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 7 hours ago, McEwan's Lager said: If the clubs insurance policy allows us them to refund us without losing money does that change anyone’s opinion? While I still wouldn’t be interested in a refund as it’s money I’d piss up the wall, surely our insurance premium would go up in the event of a payout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 9 hours ago, McEwan's Lager said: If the clubs insurance policy allows us them to refund us without losing money does that change anyone’s opinion? Yes, probably tbh if insurance covered this type of event I'd ask for money back on the 2 season tickets I pay for, given there's no real harm to the club. Otherwise, they can keep my money. I'd hope they give some sort of small, token discount next season as a thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1mgg 3,766 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Where would this hole.in the fund gap come from, after season ticket money, which is already paid, what other money do we generate from home games? Can't see food being that great, and is that not already someone else's business, so I can only see a handful of individual tickets being sold, and probably hospitality, but then we surely save money that would of been outlayed for policing, security, and other stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIAM BEAR 154 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 11 hours ago, McEwan's Lager said: If the clubs insurance policy allows us them to refund us without losing money does that change anyone’s opinion? If I received any refund then that refund would be donated to Erskine as I am sure that many of you on here would probably do the same Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quabba 440 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 On 13/03/2020 at 16:11, Rfc52 said: Not interested in 1 penny back same Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I wouldnt be against people saying that they would ask for their money back if the club did not legally fight to make sure that the season was not being called and celtic being named as champions. If the club fight it, then an agreement that they would not ask for a penny back. To be honest, if this shit show is going to play out the way they are suggesting, gift celtic the title, relegate Partick Thistle and demand celtic get automatically into the group stages of the Champions League (which wont happen, but they might try), then im fucking done with Scottish Football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Surely the right thing to do is for everyone to donate any refund to ScumFC after all they are getting a title for nothing so they might as well get all the money due everybody as well, it’s only fair after all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 11 hours ago, McEwan's Lager said: If the clubs insurance policy allows us them to refund us without losing money does that change anyone’s opinion? No don’t want it, I paid for my ST in good faith and people are dying while folk are banging on about giving the Scum a worthless title. Actually pretty sickened by the way the powers that be in Scottish Football have handled this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Soprano 22,428 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 If the club fold to those bastards over the league then I think there will be a line of folk wanting there money back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsitgoing 4,281 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 47 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: I wouldnt be against people saying that they would ask for their money back if the club did not legally fight to make sure that the season was not being called and celtic being named as champions. If the club fight it, then an agreement that they would not ask for a penny back. To be honest, if this shit show is going to play out the way they are suggesting, gift celtic the title, relegate Partick Thistle and demand celtic get automatically into the group stages of the Champions League (which wont happen, but they might try), then im fucking done with Scottish Football. Exactly my thoughts. It’s bad enough watching our team lose games because of their referees to now have to endure the club doing nothing about a whole season being gifted to them will finish me with Scottish football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,514 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 58 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: No don’t want it, I paid for my ST in good faith and people are dying while folk are banging on about giving the Scum a worthless title. Actually pretty sickened by the way the powers that be in Scottish Football have handled this. My point was mainly that if the club has the insurance cover then it probably has a moral obligation to supporters to at least offer the partial refund for the remaining games. There could be a lot of people off or out of work soon. £100-200 would go a long way to those people. If the club aren’t losing out and are covered then I’d argue it would be wrong of them to not offer it considering the supporters have saved the club over the past 8 years and pumped a lot of money in. You could argue it’s the clubs turn to do a bit for the fans if the club isn’t going to be left out of pocket. The other thing I worry about is that if a large amount of the support turn down refunds or blank refuse to countenance it then it sends the board a signal that we are happy to just continue to be cash cows. I don’t think that helps drive us to better financial sustainability in the long term or a better relationship as fans with the club. I realise this is probably against the thinking of most people on here. Again, all hypothetical based on whether or not we have the cover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,514 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 3 hours ago, psb07158 said: Yes, probably tbh if insurance covered this type of event I'd ask for money back on the 2 season tickets I pay for, given there's no real harm to the club. Otherwise, they can keep my money. I'd hope they give some sort of small, token discount next season as a thank you Yeah. I’ve kind of expanded on that in my reply to CB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GersInCanada 7,775 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I don't have a ST but I do have an annual subscription to RTV. Am I entitled to a refund because some matches will not now take place ? I would argue no because this situation is out of their control. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,375 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 The club couldn’t give two fucks about the fans. Think of us and treat us like absolute scum. Not a chance they’ll be offering refunds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,514 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, GersInCanada said: I don't have a ST but I do have an annual subscription to RTV. Am I entitled to a refund because some matches will not now take place ? I would argue no because this situation is out of their control. Slightly different. You are still getting a service whether that be archive footage etc. RTV provides a massive discount on watching the games. If you take the $299 option it works out that you pay for 31 games based on the individual list price for paying to watch games live stand alone, when we play 38 in the league, plus you get cup games, friendlies and European qualifiers included. From this point on you are getting extra plus the general content. Season Tickets aren’t really discounted above the individual list price for a ticket. Mine averages out at £39 a game which is generally the standard price for my seat, which then increases for celtic to £52. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,805 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I’d be surprised if Season Ticket renewals for 20/21 season aren’t out pretty soon. Not entirely sure what uptake will be like though due to the uncertainty around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,514 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: I’d be surprised if Season Ticket renewals for 20/21 season aren’t out pretty soon. Not entirely sure what uptake will be like though due to the uncertainty around. I wonder if they will both hold increases and delay the rumoured membership scheme and charge. I can’t see people being happy if prices increase again by 4% and there’s a fee on top to get in the ballot for aways and cup semis/finals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,805 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 With the waiting list that the club has i think they’ll increase prices and add the fee. I don’t agree with that but i think they will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,514 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I suspect that list will disappear if people are laid off or not working. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,805 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, McEwan's Lager said: I suspect that list will disappear if people are laid off or not working. If the club can then they’d be better holding off selling ST’s until this calms down but obvs finances will dictate. That “20 million injection” would come in handy just now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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