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6 minutes ago, El-Hadji Spit RFC said:

I find all this a little embarrassing tbh, if we were sitting 13 points clear fuckin right we would want to be crowned champs!!! Let’s just move on

No fk that, if anything give them the CL spot as a half way measure which is potentially a lot of fkn money 

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52 minutes ago, Bad Robot said:

It would be good if all the other leagues started doing the same over the next few days/ weeks but worryingly this fenian loving corrupt cunts at the spfl are meeting on Monday and it wouldn’t surprise me if they nominated the nonces as champions

Even if every league in Europe follow the Dutch approach. 

I would still bet on the SPFL declaring those wankers champions. With every crap excuse being rolled out to try and justify it. 

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i can guarantee you this if it was us  at the top of the league the scum press all of the bigoted bastards on radio would be calling for all games to be played 100% 2 faced scum. the dutch showing there class unlike the mhanks and the bigots who run the game  

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4 hours ago, Stillgoingstrong72 said:

Exactly what should happen in Scotland 

I agree but the vote the other week scuppers any hope of this. Promotion and relegation for the premiership  has been decided albeit with the reconstruction con to ensure Hearts and Hamilton stay in the top division. Null and void would mean no promotion for Dundee Utd and even more embarrassment for the SPFL and there is no way that Peter will accept that his team will not be declared champions.

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4 hours ago, El-Hadji Spit RFC said:

I find all this a little embarrassing tbh, if we were sitting 13 points clear fuckin right we would want to be crowned champs!!! Let’s just move on

Think you're talking shite... Any title I would want to win on the field of play, which means completing the season (38 games) If you want to "move on" don't let the door hit your taigy arse on the way out! 🤪

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This state of this pish in the herald....

Declaring Eredivisie null and void hard to take for clubs like Ajax

By Graeme Macpherson @Graeme_Macphers 2 hrs ago

Ajax manager Erik ten Hag with coach Winston Bogarde

THERE is nothing more frustrating than the feeling that any kind of endeavour has all been for nothing. Frankly, everything is such an effort these days that it feels there has to be some kind of outcome to celebrate come the end of it. Otherwise, what was the point in even starting to begin with?

There is a big difference, of course, between wasting time and a waste of time. This column has previously extolled the simpler pleasures to be derived during lockdown – from pottering around absent-mindedly for days on end, one small task savoured after another.

Extensive research conducted over the past month has now revealed a correlation between levels of enjoyment and the location of one’s offspring. So, when they are outside playing, optimal levels of satisfaction can be achieved by staying indoors. And vice versa.

Doing something for little or no gain, however, is a whole other story. That can make the blood boil of even the most mild-mannered folk.

It takes a certain kind of perverse logic, for example, to continue driving the wrong way looking for a lengthy detour rather than performing a U-turn because to do so would be to admit the previous three hours’ journey had been entirely pointless. An extreme but understandable course of action as most reasonable people would no doubt agree.

Similarly, the only fitting response to messing up a crossword or sudoku puzzle is to immediately take the cursed newspaper outside and plunge it deep into the midst of the recycling bin, thus both literally and metaphorically burying the memory of that wasted experience.

Goodness only knows, then, how the good people of the Netherlands have managed to retain their composure this weekend following the decision by their football association to effectively declare the league season null and void.

Most teams in the Dutch top league have played 25 or 26 matches since the season started way back on August 2. That has to count for something.

All those training sessions endured, the sweat spilled in the gym, the tactical analysis, and the gruelling 90 minutes themselves put in by players and managers week after week. The money invested and the miles clocked up by the loyal supporters to attend every game.

The hours put in behind the scenes by staff in ticket offices, hospitality suites, and club shops. The painstaking attention to detail put in by groundsmen and women to prepare a pitch every second week, the vital jobs carried out by maintenance staff. The turnstile operators. The programme sellers. The workers in the pie stands. Are they telling them now they did all that for nothing?

Heck, even the media sent to cover these games. Nobody has ever said writing or broadcasting about sport is a hardship but there have been moments this season when, truth be told, you would rather have been elsewhere.

Trying and failing to avoid the deluge of rain in the Tynecastle press box during Storm Dennis. A freezing midweek game at Cappielow in December where it was proving nigh-on impossible to keep a laptop balanced on your legs as you were chattering so much with the cold.

The sweltering hot afternoon in Paisley in August and the unfamiliar, disconcerting sensation of it being too bright to see your screen. It all has to count for something.

Spare a thought, then, for poor Cambuur, leading the Dutch second division but now told that their year-long dream of joining the big boys next year has expired.

Their head coach Henk de John called it “the biggest scandal ever in Dutch sport”, a sizeable claim when you recall Edgar Davids, Jaap Stam and Frank de Boer once tested positive for Nandrolone, or the time former St Mirren defender Jeroen Tesselaar rather disrespectfully called Paisley a “s***hole”. Allegedly. Did he not visit our stunning abbey and magnificent town hall?!

But you can understand De John’s frustration as the reality sunk in that his players’ eight-month long efforts had been instantly deemed null and void. “Try again next year” isn’t a message any coach ever wants to have to relay to a dressing room.

These are, of course, unprecedented times. The Dutch government had already declared that no major events could take place in public until September, meaning there was next to no way for the football season to be played to its conclusion.

With Ajax and AZ Alkmaar only separated by goal difference at the top, perhaps it was felt it would have been unfair to crown either champions. But it would still have been better to find a way than simply consigning the entire season to the dustbin.

It will hopefully not set a precedent. Imagine the outcry if Liverpool are denied their first title in 30 years or celtic are similarly left frustrated despite their commanding lead at the summit up here. And you don’t have to be a fan of either side to see the injustice in either of those outcomes.

Sport is, of course, about the journey as much as the destination. But all that competitive grind has to be worth something in the end.

There have to be winners and losers, champions and teams relegated, to acknowledge that all that commitment and effort wasn’t entirely futile. After all, there is nothing worse than something that turns out to be a complete waste of time.

 

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32 minutes ago, roboscot said:

This state of this pish in the herald....

Declaring Eredivisie null and void hard to take for clubs like Ajax

By Graeme Macpherson @Graeme_Macphers 2 hrs ago

Ajax manager Erik ten Hag with coach Winston Bogarde

THERE is nothing more frustrating than the feeling that any kind of endeavour has all been for nothing. Frankly, everything is such an effort these days that it feels there has to be some kind of outcome to celebrate come the end of it. Otherwise, what was the point in even starting to begin with?

There is a big difference, of course, between wasting time and a waste of time. This column has previously extolled the simpler pleasures to be derived during lockdown – from pottering around absent-mindedly for days on end, one small task savoured after another.

Extensive research conducted over the past month has now revealed a correlation between levels of enjoyment and the location of one’s offspring. So, when they are outside playing, optimal levels of satisfaction can be achieved by staying indoors. And vice versa.

Doing something for little or no gain, however, is a whole other story. That can make the blood boil of even the most mild-mannered folk.

It takes a certain kind of perverse logic, for example, to continue driving the wrong way looking for a lengthy detour rather than performing a U-turn because to do so would be to admit the previous three hours’ journey had been entirely pointless. An extreme but understandable course of action as most reasonable people would no doubt agree.

Similarly, the only fitting response to messing up a crossword or sudoku puzzle is to immediately take the cursed newspaper outside and plunge it deep into the midst of the recycling bin, thus both literally and metaphorically burying the memory of that wasted experience.

Goodness only knows, then, how the good people of the Netherlands have managed to retain their composure this weekend following the decision by their football association to effectively declare the league season null and void.

Most teams in the Dutch top league have played 25 or 26 matches since the season started way back on August 2. That has to count for something.

All those training sessions endured, the sweat spilled in the gym, the tactical analysis, and the gruelling 90 minutes themselves put in by players and managers week after week. The money invested and the miles clocked up by the loyal supporters to attend every game.

The hours put in behind the scenes by staff in ticket offices, hospitality suites, and club shops. The painstaking attention to detail put in by groundsmen and women to prepare a pitch every second week, the vital jobs carried out by maintenance staff. The turnstile operators. The programme sellers. The workers in the pie stands. Are they telling them now they did all that for nothing?

Heck, even the media sent to cover these games. Nobody has ever said writing or broadcasting about sport is a hardship but there have been moments this season when, truth be told, you would rather have been elsewhere.

Trying and failing to avoid the deluge of rain in the Tynecastle press box during Storm Dennis. A freezing midweek game at Cappielow in December where it was proving nigh-on impossible to keep a laptop balanced on your legs as you were chattering so much with the cold.

The sweltering hot afternoon in Paisley in August and the unfamiliar, disconcerting sensation of it being too bright to see your screen. It all has to count for something.

Spare a thought, then, for poor Cambuur, leading the Dutch second division but now told that their year-long dream of joining the big boys next year has expired.

Their head coach Henk de John called it “the biggest scandal ever in Dutch sport”, a sizeable claim when you recall Edgar Davids, Jaap Stam and Frank de Boer once tested positive for Nandrolone, or the time former St Mirren defender Jeroen Tesselaar rather disrespectfully called Paisley a “s***hole”. Allegedly. Did he not visit our stunning abbey and magnificent town hall?!

But you can understand De John’s frustration as the reality sunk in that his players’ eight-month long efforts had been instantly deemed null and void. “Try again next year” isn’t a message any coach ever wants to have to relay to a dressing room.

These are, of course, unprecedented times. The Dutch government had already declared that no major events could take place in public until September, meaning there was next to no way for the football season to be played to its conclusion.

With Ajax and AZ Alkmaar only separated by goal difference at the top, perhaps it was felt it would have been unfair to crown either champions. But it would still have been better to find a way than simply consigning the entire season to the dustbin.

It will hopefully not set a precedent. Imagine the outcry if Liverpool are denied their first title in 30 years or celtic are similarly left frustrated despite their commanding lead at the summit up here. And you don’t have to be a fan of either side to see the injustice in either of those outcomes.

Sport is, of course, about the journey as much as the destination. But all that competitive grind has to be worth something in the end.

There have to be winners and losers, champions and teams relegated, to acknowledge that all that commitment and effort wasn’t entirely futile. After all, there is nothing worse than something that turns out to be a complete waste of time.

 

Firstly, apologies for quoting this entire thing

Secondly, no hostility towards @roboscot at all

My point quite simply is, what a mind boggling tremendous amount of absolute shite that entire column is, maybe I just haven’t been to sleep yet and i’m being a tit, but reading that sent my mind all over the place and the overall message is absolutely stupid 

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2 hours ago, MattyBlue said:

The hours put in behind the scenes by staff in ticket offices, hospitality suites, and club shops. The painstaking attention to detail put in by groundsmen and women to prepare a pitch every second week, the vital jobs carried out by maintenance staff. The turnstile operators. The programme sellers. The workers in the pie stands. Are they telling them now they did all that for nothing?

Cheers @MattyBlue 

What an absolute pile of pish this cunt McPherson is spouting. "Please, please give ra sellic the league, think of the poor pie sellers!"

Unbelievable that this is in a national newspaper.

 

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3 hours ago, roboscot said:

This state of this pish in the herald....

Declaring Eredivisie null and void hard to take for clubs like Ajax

By Graeme Macpherson @Graeme_Macphers 2 hrs ago

All those training sessions endured, the sweat spilled in the gym, the tactical analysis, and the gruelling 90 minutes themselves put in by players and managers week after week. The money invested and the miles clocked up by the loyal supporters to attend every game.

The hours put in behind the scenes by staff in ticket offices, hospitality suites, and club shops. The painstaking attention to detail put in by groundsmen and women to prepare a pitch every second week, the vital jobs carried out by maintenance staff. The turnstile operators. The programme sellers. The workers in the pie stands. Are they telling them now they did all that for nothing?

Heck, even the media sent to cover these games. Nobody has ever said writing or broadcasting about sport is a hardship but there have been moments this season when, truth be told, you would rather have been elsewhere.

Trying and failing to avoid the deluge of rain in the Tynecastle press box during Storm Dennis. A freezing midweek game at Cappielow in December where it was proving nigh-on impossible to keep a laptop balanced on your legs as you were chattering so much with the cold.

 

 

 

The daft bastard seems to be failing to grasp that every example he gave there is the person's means of employment. So it wasn't all for nothing. Players, managers, groundsmen, ticket staff, shop staff, programme sellers, the guy at the pie stand and the poor, poor journalists all still earned a living out of it. 

I take it this is a celtic fan view type article rather than an impartial journalist?

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52 minutes ago, roboscot said:

Cheers @MattyBlue 

What an absolute pile of pish this cunt McPherson is spouting. "Please, please give ra sellic the league, think of the poor pie sellers!"

Unbelievable that this is in a national newspaper.

 

Pie sellers that’s fkn worse than the old face painters line, absolutely ridiculous and embarrassing 

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6 hours ago, Amato said:

The daft bastard seems to be failing to grasp that every example he gave there is the person's means of employment. So it wasn't all for nothing. Players, managers, groundsmen, ticket staff, shop staff, programme sellers, the guy at the pie stand and the poor, poor journalists all still earned a living out of it. 

I take it this is a celtic fan view type article rather than an impartial journalist?

They all got paid 😂 it's their job. But it was all for nothing!

SURELY  a fan piece. If not it's one of the cringiest things I've ever read. 

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4 hours ago, The hustler said:

Imagine it was Rangers who were 13 points ahead. Would the mhedia & the yahoos be willing to give us the title? 

And make the last 9 years, an absolute waste of time and money chasing 9/10 in a row? Would they fuck!!!

This league would have been null and voided already, and they would have had lawyers produce some legal legislation that would make anybody a target to be sued if they ever mentioned this season happening or the fact Rangers were 13 points in front before it was voided lol 

 

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