BEE 4,880 Posted May 1, 2020 Author Share Posted May 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, ger4life_1872 said: The way I read it was there would be a voucher once a decision was made , but if ppl are joining today that wouldn't be there , fuck knows though That’s the case so can’t use it against membership at this moment in time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanTeddy 758 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 It shouldn't be the clubs choice - it should be a decision made by the league regards how postponed games are compensated across the board. The voucher offer is embarrassing and a potential PR disaster. Club makes around £5,000,000 on ticket sales for games not played and gives out vouchers that probably have a real value of maybe £5.00 per person. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanVeenRangers 2,529 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Junior Soprano said: 150 I reckon. 25 quid for the 4 games and 50 for the papes Refunding 150 to each ST holder would mean paying back 7 million plus. So we couldn't even do half of that given the circumstances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Soprano 22,428 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, MorelosRangers said: Refunding 150 to each ST holder would mean paying back 7 million plus. So we couldn't even do half of that given the circumstances. No one is asking to be paid back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEE 4,880 Posted May 1, 2020 Author Share Posted May 1, 2020 17 minutes ago, MorelosRangers said: Refunding 150 to each ST holder would mean paying back 7 million plus. So we couldn't even do half of that given the circumstances. Optional discount against next year season ticket would be a good alternative, uber staunch can opt to not claim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanTeddy 758 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 They should have put season tickets up 5% and offered to take £100 off for existing season ticket holders if they renewed by end of May. Then it's a decent looking discount, actually helps folk out now who might be struggling a bit, encourages people to renew and they're probably only out £50 per person which they will get back in a year by upping increased season ticket prices by another 5% By not helping fans now, and putting pressure on them financially, it's the exact opposite of the loyalty they talk about in there PR messaging Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jintybear 8,536 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 29 minutes ago, TartanTeddy said: They should have put season tickets up 5% and offered to take £100 off for existing season ticket holders if they renewed by end of May. Then it's a decent looking discount, actually helps folk out now who might be struggling a bit, encourages people to renew and they're probably only out £50 per person which they will get back in a year by upping increased season ticket prices by another 5% By not helping fans now, and putting pressure on them financially, it's the exact opposite of the loyalty they talk about in there PR messaging I agree with most of your post but I don’t think they should have increased it by 5%. I think a discount of £50 for each ST holder And £25 for the weans would have went a long way. I am currently debating whether to renew at all because I can’t justify paying over a £1000 for 2 STs and the weans for absolutely no guarantee of any football. I think it would have made it a bit easier to make a decision because I would have been under £1k for all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrick 8,048 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 See if the club was as bold as brass with every cunt else as they are with us , we wouldn’t be getting shat on from every corner of the country for the last how many years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanRain 2,845 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 16 minutes ago, Cedrick said: See if the club was as bold as brass with every cunt else as they are with us , we wouldn’t be getting shat on from every corner of the country for the last how many years Hear, hear! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrick 8,048 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 1 minute ago, OceanRain said: Hear, hear! 👍🏻👌🏻 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4XGERSBF3 240 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Theres no right or wrong way everyone will be effected differently. Although for me personally I would have been happy with whats been said of a £50 discount off the renewal. That at least looks fair and kind of meets you half way. I have already said in a poll previously I never wanted money refunded, but the £25 limited use voucher is pretty shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 I'm sure bears will all say , we love supporting the club .Not looking for anything in return . Yet this is taking the total cunt out of us tbh And we are expected to buy a new ST . On the same basis . Games don't get played . fuck off with your refund . Would have been better just to have given us vouchers for the clubs catering ffs . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky. 6,923 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Must admit, it is a disappointment, but as a business, it’s not their fault. I suppose they can’t be giving out goodwill gestures when they are losing money big time too. Just not sure what I will do. I had so many plans this year which have now been taken away and financially it’s a big challenge just now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CF2 WINNIE 1,006 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Would rather have had nothing than this insult Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,141 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 7 hours ago, JCDBigBear said: Personally I'm not bothered about a voucher or getting any money back from Rangers. We are not cash-rich as a club and I have no wish to weaken our position. I can possibly understand if some fans are really strapped for cash and hoped for a rebate. This Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
docspiderman 1,225 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Many of our players and club officials earn twice as much in one week as my pension gives me in a year. Maybe these people might think about helping out the club . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,810 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 5 hours ago, TartanTeddy said: It shouldn't be the clubs choice - it should be a decision made by the league regards how postponed games are compensated across the board. The voucher offer is embarrassing and a potential PR disaster. Club makes around £5,000,000 on ticket sales for games not played and gives out vouchers that probably have a real value of maybe £5.00 per person. The Club can't afford to give back £5m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,810 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 4 hours ago, eejay the dj said: I'm sure bears will all say , we love supporting the club .Not looking for anything in return . Yet this is taking the total cunt out of us tbh And we are expected to buy a new ST . On the same basis . Games don't get played . fuck off with your refund . Would have been better just to have given us vouchers for the clubs catering ffs . Have you seen the Club accounts, we can't afford rebates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,621 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Every discount, every refund, every reduction in the money being brought in for this season reduces our competitiveness. Full stop. Regardless of rights of wrongs with monies due back to punters, the staff still need paid so reimbursements impact on that. Everyone had their own demands and priorities. But I'm fortunate enough to day I'm all in, let's chase these fuckers down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,810 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Let me put my own perspective on this and I fully understand that others may have a very parlous financial position. I am treating the current situation the same way I treated our position in 2012. I have grown up as a Rangers fan and frankly my life used to totally revolve around watching the Gers. I still love the Club and as far as I am concerned they need my money. (yet again). But that is how supporting a professional football club goes. The more who pay their money the better we (hopefully) get. I will renew the three season tickets and I don't give a damn about the money for the lost home games for this season. If we, the fans, don't support the Club financially then the result will be the demise and eventual death of a football institution of no equal. I cannot be a party to that outcome. I ask you all to think back to 2012 and how you all thought about the possibility of not being able to watch The Rangers. That may sound dramatic to some but no-one expected 2012 then either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,621 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 35 minutes ago, docspiderman said: Many of our players and club officials earn twice as much in one week as my pension gives me in a year. Maybe these people might think about helping out the club . Why? They're contracted. Suppose we could always let them walk away for nothing.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,056 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 3 hours ago, CF2 WINNIE said: Would rather have had nothing than this insult I bet you would moan like fuck if they gave you nothing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,056 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 1 hour ago, JCDBigBear said: Let me put my own perspective on this and I fully understand that others may have a very parlous financial position. I am treating the current situation the same way I treated our position in 2012. I have grown up as a Rangers fan and frankly my life used to totally revolve around watching the Gers. I still love the Club and as far as I am concerned they need my money. (yet again). But that is how supporting a professional football club goes. The more who pay their money the better we (hopefully) get. I will renew the three season tickets and I don't give a damn about the money for the lost home games for this season. If we, the fans, don't support the Club financially then the result will be the demise and eventual death of a football institution of no equal. I cannot be a party to that outcome. I ask you all to think back to 2012 and how you all thought about the possibility of not being able to watch The Rangers. That may sound dramatic to some but no-one expected 2012 then either. Good post, I totally get that lots of people will ultimately feel let down but the truth is clear as day....if we say refunded even £100 a head for adults.....that would be in the region of £4/4.5 million quid....taking into account that we would also have lost 5 matchday incomes.....I don't think the club is that well off that we can afford to hamstring what budget we may or may not have for next season.....the reality could easily be that whilst the support get their refunds we could end up with a massive downsizing project with the squad....the club will be damned if they do and damned if they don't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jintybear 8,536 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 I don’t think anyone here is looking for a refund from last season. I think the point is this season. There is no guarantee of us seeing any football before Christmas and even then it is under debate. The club are charging full price STs with no discount for the loss of games in the coming season and then insult the fans with a £25 voucher which, lets face it, gets next to nothing. A token gesture. If they were serious they could have deducted even the £25 from this years ST price. There are so many fans who are getting absolutely no money whatsoever just now and yes the club needs our help but what about these loyal supporters who have stuck with the club through thick and thin and loyally paid no matter what. The club are basically say Fck you and they will lose their seat. Loyalty goes both ways Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 4 hours ago, JCDBigBear said: Have you seen the Club accounts, we can't afford rebates. Much like ordinary peoples accounts then You used to be such a good poster 🌝 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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