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27 minutes ago, bornabear said:

As I see it, Hertz/ PT can still get what they're after. 

Spfl have to either reconstruct the league to avoid their (Hertz/pt) relegation or pay out compo  for spfl calling the league.

I reckon the judge has been clever here, as he wants all documents to be available to the arbitration.

All Hertz/ PT have to do is play hardball in the short time available to the arbitration, forcing it to go back to the court and with it, the spfl documents.

 

I’m going to go with this BB .Sounds viable and all we can hope for now tbh 

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1 minute ago, esquire8 said:

SPFL welcoming any decision means they are fully prepared for it. Expect Mulraney to do the job Lawwell put him in for and blow this whole thing away.

Surely Jambos and Partick have something to say about this .I mean how corrupt .It is clearly a conflict of interest too surely to fuck 

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Typical BBC - "Hearts have lost their case in the court of session." Like hell they have. It's just another step in the demise of this rancid mob known as the SFPL. Soon be back in court in front of Lord Clark.

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5 minutes ago, eejay the dj said:

Surely Jambos and Partick have something to say about this .I mean how corrupt .It is clearly a conflict of interest too surely to fuck 

All they need to add is an independent chair with 10 years plus experience. Step forward Mr Independent himself MacLennan..... :pipe:

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5 minutes ago, Howsitgoing said:

Apparently it is the case that SPFL and Hearts/Thistle pick an arbiter each and then agree on a chairman. This fucking rag is so fenian minded that they can’t even report this correctly. 

 

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Tbf, SPFL and SFA are two cheeks of the same arse.

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29 minutes ago, Paisley Blue Loyal said:

Thought Hearts/Thistle could take this back to court if arbitration fails, How can that be so if findings of the tribunal are final and binding ?

I was just going to ask that same question after reading tweets above.

I was hoping @Blue Nosed Babe would maybe be on RM tonight to give is her thoughts.

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30 minutes ago, Paisley Blue Loyal said:

Thought Hearts/Thistle could take this back to court if arbitration fails, How can that be so if findings of the tribunal are final and binding ?

I think you are correct, I think it is now out of the courts for good. That is why the SPFL board see this as a good result. Giving evidence to a tribunal does not carry penalties for being economical with the information you release, whereas a court could charge you with contempt. SPFL board can now still keep some correspondences secret. 

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If it shown that the Dundee vote was received at 16:48 the spfl are done.

Also remember people is alot easier to get evidence electronically. Delete what u want it can all be retrieved by going to the service provider. Who must retain it by law

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Only guessing lads  but ordinarily a chairman  only has a casting vote in the event of a tie. Maybe in this format they dont have a vote so the other parties have to agree or it goes back to court . So on this basis  it would be advantage Hertz and Thistle

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8 minutes ago, Brubear said:

I think you are correct, I think it is now out of the courts for good. That is why the SPFL board see this as a good result. Giving evidence to a tribunal does not carry penalties for being economical with the information you release, whereas a court could charge you with contempt. SPFL board can now still keep some correspondences secret. 

Looking at it like that I can see why the SPFL will be happy, they only have to answer the questions posed without any risk of being charged with telling porkies. Bastards.

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1 minute ago, southcoastbear said:

Only guessing lads  but ordinarily a chairman  only has a casting vote in the event of a tie. Maybe in this format they dont have a vote so the other parties have to agree or it goes back to court . So on this basis  it would be advantage Hertz and Thistle

There is no vote hearts and PT must be compensated appropriately or its back to court

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The judge acknowledged that If Dundee vote was counted at the correct time then the rules added to spfl rule book wouldn’t of happened hence relegation wouldn’t of happened.  He quoted that it needs more debate before he can reach a conclusion. 
I  really don’t understand why our team can’t have the same argument  even having their own litigation. 

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1 minute ago, Howsitgoing said:

The judge acknowledged that If Dundee vote was counted at the correct time then the rules added to spfl rule book wouldn’t of happened hence relegation wouldn’t of happened.  He quoted that it needs more debate before he can reach a conclusion. 
I  really don’t understand why our team can’t have the same argument  even having their own litigation. 

Between me and you without offending anyone 

Cowardly bastards 

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2 hours ago, Paisley Blue Loyal said:

So what’s the opinion of all the computer boffins on here regarding all the documents being brought into the open for the tribunal panel, Are files going to mysteriously disappear/be deleted or is it somewhat more complex than that ?

Would have thought that Hertz QC  would have asked the court for a forensic investigation  of the SPFL computer system  to be commissioned  given how the SPFL have tried to muddy the waters around this 

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4 minutes ago, Doron said:

Sorry first post but will hold my nose and press on.
 

Disclosure is the most powerful weapon that lawyers have in any court case. Don’t focus just on what’s there. Just as important is what isn’t there. They need detailed minutes of board meetings to justify the decision they took and why they did it. The need fully reasoned decisions there in black and white which clearly show why they took their decisions. If they can’t produce them and it seems they can’t they will be screwed. Everything has a time and date stamp these days.  They can’t make board minutes up now. 
 

And the phone records. Especially if the spfl pay for the phones. Our dossier was a pleading essentially based on the info we had. There is much more to come out if this runs. They can only hide by stopping the process. 

As first posts go I like it 😂

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