SPFL Shambles

[Sweetheart 8,458]

4 minutes ago, Dave Hedgehog said:

I’m going to repeat myself again.

I have still to hear a valid excuse why leagues can’t finish as they stand with no champions, no relegation and no promotion.

Its not null and void as standings stand and Euro places are given based on positions as it’s the only viable way to do that. 

I don't think anyone will discuss it because 'he who runs football said no'.

 

[GersInCanada 7,775]

1 minute ago, Sweetheart said:

I don't think anyone will discuss it because 'he who runs football said no'.

 

After their attacks on ICT it is clear that that tabloid is another version of the celtic view. This just confirms it.

 

[Tiger Shaw 30,470]

Do we really need the peados protectors rancid face in this thread ?

[Dave Hedgehog 10,673]

6 minutes ago, Sweetheart said:

I don't think anyone will discuss it because 'he who runs football said no'.

 

Thing is my suggestion isn’t voiding anything. I wish someone somewhere would push the idea and ask questions on why it can’t happen. 

Contracts aren’t dependent on a winner or loser, they are dependent on the contract being fulfilled. 👍

[redwhiteandgreen 43]

3 hours ago, Dave Hedgehog said:

Could someone put up a EGM vote result if you remove the votes of SPFL board members and self interest votes ie teams that want leagues handed to them, promotions gained and in Brechin case relegation avoided. 

Would be interesting to see how closer it would be. 

you would also have to exclude Hearts, Partick and Stranraer as these clubs also have self interest regarding relegation.  And if you discount all the board votes then you have to discount ours as well.  That takes 4 Yes votes out.

[eejay the dj 31,964]

I contacted UEFA and spoke to a lovely lady 

She listened to  my story, about the corruption that is going on here in Scotland. And their rush to give the bheasts the league 

I think it would be worthwhile . Although it's not my strong point . My grammar is shit for a start 

If there are any good confident bears out there up for the challenge ? Putting a very strong, serious  statement, about our leagues scandalous behavior and the obvious corruption .

I will give them the email address with a PM 

[Dave Hedgehog 10,673]

1 minute ago, redwhiteandgreen said:

you would also have to exclude Hearts, Partick and Stranraer as these clubs also have self interest regarding relegation.  And if you discount all the board votes then you have to discount ours as well.  That takes 4 Yes votes out.

That’s already been discussed. 👍

[GersInCanada 7,775]

3 minutes ago, Dave Hedgehog said:

Thing is my suggestion isn’t voiding anything. I wish someone somewhere would push the idea and ask questions on why it can’t happen. 

Contracts aren’t dependent on a winner or loser, they are dependent on the contract being fulfilled. 👍

100% correct

[esquire8 42,659]

2 minutes ago, Dave Hedgehog said:

Thing is my suggestion isn’t voiding anything. I wish someone somewhere would push the idea and ask questions on why it can’t happen. 

Contracts aren’t dependent on a winner or loser, they are dependent on the contract being fulfilled. 👍

Still believe the dutch way of finalising positions but no champions, no relegation etc. We go again next season. Would actually scrap the champions league and Europa league next season. Travelling within a country will be difficult enough without having to travel across Europe. 

[redwhiteandgreen 43]

1 minute ago, Dave Hedgehog said:

That’s already been discussed. 👍

fair do's.  i have been dipping in and out.

[Dave Hedgehog 10,673]

Just now, esquire8 said:

Still believe the dutch way of finalising positions but no champions, no relegation etc. We go again next season. Would actually scrap the champions league and Europa league next season. Travelling within a country will be difficult enough without having to travel across Europe. 

That’s what should happen but UEFA need their money and would never put doing the right thing in front of that 👍

[Swally 6,289]

Have we mentioned  the title at any stage of all this?

I've read a lot during the past few weeks but I haven't seen us say we wanted anything voided or that the scum didn't deserve the title.

We have said we want the rest of the games played, which has been the opinion of most clubs around Europe.

Why is it that celtic are seen as taking the moral high-ground when  they are the ones trying desperately to gain out of the Covid-19?

I read Brown, Lennon and now Lawwell saying they have to get the title.

I don't understand how they can be seen  as people who want the best for Scottish football when they're one of the few trying to grab everything they can during the crisis.

Scum in my opinion, and anyone who buys into it is either extremely thick - (Chick Young etc) or scum 

 

[bluenoz 30,835]

29 minutes ago, Blue Nosed Babe said:

Of course UEFA may yet surprise us all and say leagues voided no title or relegation if the court cases mount up 

I've said that since day 1.

[esquire8 42,659]

1 minute ago, Dave Hedgehog said:

That’s what should happen but UEFA need their money and would never put doing the right thing in front of that 👍

UEFA have surely got enough in the coffers to miss out on 1 season. They've also got a Euro 2021 competition next summer to make money out of.

Adding who should be put forward for Euro competitions just complicates things 10 fold.

[ritchieshearercaldow 22,137]

Be interesting too see how this tainted title will be recorded in the record books, the 38 game season that never was, I also hope that some in the media will start to ask the question.....is it really 9IAR or a gift of fate.

[esquire8 42,659]

Just now, ritchieshearercaldow said:

Be interesting too see how this tainted title will be recorded in the record books, the 38 game season that never was, I also hope that some in the media will start to ask the question.....is it really 9IAR or a gift of fate.

They count war titles. We don't. Think that explains that.....

[bornabear 6,202]

50 minutes ago, esquire8 said:

They voted yes to the resolution the fastest. Other clubs said 48 hours wasn't long enough. Now they are saying it was far too briskly dealt with? Nah fuck them assholes. This is a mess they agreed with so they can fuck off if they want to take the moral high ground all the sudden.

Yes mate, that's why I said, shining light.

Must have been the reverse light.

[Swally 6,289]

6 minutes ago, eejay the dj said:

Right guys . Who is confident enough to write a powerful email .I contacted UEFA and spoke to a lovely lady 

She listened to all my story, about the corruption that is going on here in Scotland. And their rush to give the bheasts the league 

I think it would be worthwhile . Although it's not my strong point . My grammar is shit for a start 

If there are any good confident bears out there up for the challenge ? Putting a very strong, serious  statement, about our leagues scandalous behavior and the obvious corruption .

I will give them the email address with a PM 

Was this who you were talking to and her reaction?

I'd like to do it mate, but probably better getting someone who is a solicitor or someone used to writing in a non-inflammatory way.

I'm good at letter writing , but I'd get too angry with this and I'd fuck it.

[Dave Hedgehog 10,673]

8 minutes ago, esquire8 said:

UEFA have surely got enough in the coffers to miss out on 1 season. They've also got a Euro 2021 competition next summer to make money out of.

Adding who should be put forward for Euro competitions just complicates things 10 fold.

Greed breeds greed mate 👍

[Trooblue 1,973]

4 hours ago, Sweetheart said:

The Scotsman

Scottish football club insolvencies ‘probably inevitable’-Financial implications of the coronavirus pandemic could prove ‘fatal’, claims report.

By Stephen Halliday Wednesday, 13th May 2020, 4:52 pm

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The financial implications of the coronavirus pandemic could prove ‘fatal’ for some Scottish football clubs with insolvencies ‘probably inevitable’, according to the latest annual Football Distress Report. The cruel timing of the sport’s current suspension from a Scottish perspective is underlined by the revelation that club finances had reached an unprecedented level of stability in March with none of the 42 SPFL members showing signs of severe financial distress. But the report, from corporate insolvency specialists Begbies Traynor, claims that the majority of clubs in Scotland could now face ‘financial peril’ without government support if fixtures cannot return in front of spectators for the 2020-21 season.

The SPFL this week stated their aim to try and begin the new campaign on schedule in July, when their new £160 million five-year TV deals with Premier Sports and Sky Sports are due to begin. But it remains doubtful if that is a realistic prospect, even behind closed doors, while the SPFL is also without a title sponsor after Ladbrokes opted not to extend their five-year agreement which was worth around £1.5 million a season. “It’s the mid-size clubs without wealthy backers or lucrative television or sponsorship deals that are in the most perilous position,” warned Ken Pattullo, a managing partner at Begbies Traynor who have produced the Football Distress Report since 2012 when as many as six Scottish clubs were in severe financial distress. “Unfortunately, the double whammy of significant wage bills and sizeable fan bases that make them heavily reliant on match-day gate receipts could prove fatal in this unprecedented situation. “While I don’t believe we are looking at a doomsday scenario and most Scottish clubs will survive, I’m afraid that some insolvencies are probably inevitable among the hardest hit clubs.

“There are real concerns that cash strapped clubs may be pushed to the brink of insolvency. Finances are already stretched and every match that isn’t played means income from matchday ticket sales and hospitality is lost. “With several matches that were still left to play across all Scottish leagues (in the 2019-20 season), that represents hundreds of thousands of pounds of lost income, which clubs operating on small budgets can ill afford to lose. “Some clarity from the Scottish Government would be helpful now because, while in England the Premier League is in discussions about Project Restart, to resume playing televised matches behind closed doors, Scotland’s top-tier clubs seem to be nowhere near having a road map towards the resumption of any form of play, and meanwhile they remain in financially corrosive limbo.” While many of Scotland’s lower division clubs have already launched fund-raising initiatives in a bid to survive the Covid-19 crisis, it is those in the top flight who could be most at risk.

The most recent Uefa club licensing report revealed that Scottish Premiership clubs earn 43 percent of their annual revenue from ticket sales, more than any of the other top 15 leagues in Europe. “Our Scottish Premiership clubs are the most reliant on ticket sales of all the top-flight European clubs,” said Pattullo. “(That) also makes them extremely vulnerable to escalating financial problems, especially if it is decreed that the remainder of the season is to be played behind closed doors. “It also means they lack the financial clout of the English Premier League, and the cost to clubs of completing the outstanding games, when clubs have little or no income, could be devastating.”There now appears to be next to no chance, however, of the SPFL still attempting to conclude the 2019-20 Premiership season on the pitch. It is anticipated the SPFL board will ‘call’ the league imminently, with celtic declared champions and Hearts relegated on a points-per-game basis as the table stood when football was suspended two months ago.

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/international/scottish-football-club-insolvencies-probably-inevitable-2852322

 

Insolvencies? Bring it on. 

[semaj 1,637]

17 minutes ago, Dave Hedgehog said:

Thing is my suggestion isn’t voiding anything. I wish someone somewhere would push the idea and ask questions on why it can’t happen. 

Contracts aren’t dependent on a winner or loser, they are dependent on the contract being fulfilled. 👍

correct mate . All the rhebel says is that Lieswell says it cant be declared Null and Void. No reason is given only he said it so must be right enough.

[Sweetheart 8,458]

30 minutes ago, eejay the dj said:

Right guys . Who is confident enough to write a powerful email .I contacted UEFA and spoke to a lovely lady 

She listened to all my story, about the corruption that is going on here in Scotland. And their rush to give the bheasts the league 

I think it would be worthwhile . Although it's not my strong point . My grammar is shit for a start 

If there are any good confident bears out there up for the challenge ? Putting a very strong, serious  statement, about our leagues scandalous behavior and the obvious corruption .

I will give them the email address with a PM 

I'm all for this but would like conformation from the SLO that it wouldn't go against any case Rangers are building. Personally I think the SLO should be collecting fans letters of complaint so a dossier can be handed over. It would be more effective in my view.

[GersInCanada 7,775]

6 minutes ago, Swally said:

Was this who you were talking to and her reaction?

I'd like to do it mate, but probably better getting someone who is a solicitor or someone used to writing in a non-inflammatory way.

I'm good at letter writing , but I'd get too angry with this and I'd fuck it.

Might want to their own press release.

UEFA reserves the right to refuse or evaluate the admission to any club proposed by a National Association from a prematurely terminated domestic competition in particular where:

• the domestic competitions have not been prematurely terminated based on the reasons given in these UEFA guidelines or on the basis of any other legitimate public health reasons;

• the clubs were selected pursuant to a procedure which was not objective, transparent and non-discriminatory so that the selected clubs could not be considered as having been qualified on sporting merit;

• there is a public perception of unfairness in the qualification of the club.

[esquire8 42,659]

1 minute ago, Trooblue said:

Insolvencies? Bring it on. 

Here comes Doncaster n co putting pressure on the government to bail out their incompetence. Read these fucks like a book.

[esquire8 42,659]

2 minutes ago, semaj said:

correct mate . All the rhebel says is that Lieswell says it cant be declared Null and Void. No reason is given only he said it so must be right enough.

There are issues with a total null n void. Things like sponsorship and tv companies wanting their money back..... oh wait.....