SPFL Shambles

[esquire8 42,237]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/soccer/judge-upholds-dutch-decision-to-scrap-promotion-relegation/2020/05/14/2ac73826-9614-11ea-87a3-22d324235636_story.html

Heres a link to the same story but written by a non-British paper. Try and find the words "null and void" in there.

[Teamgers 1,214]

Our football league is a joke, in fact the country is a total fucking joke! Ran by cunts for cunts!

[esquire8 42,237]

Just now, STEPPS BOY said:

And imo it’s the fairest way. Will every team be happy - no but you can’t be champions or relegated when season incomplete.

It will be interesting to see how much legal action is taken across Europe when it’s all over.

There will be little if any action against the Eredivisie bosses now. Probably find out they will have the least amount of complications in the European leagues with their actions.

[Prince George 601]

English league 2 agrees to finish season and teams agree positions to be finalised by PPG system. League 1 couldn’t come to agreement.

[Bobby Hume 12,970]

1 hour ago, KingKirk said:

The media know the truth they can report it as they wish will never become the truth.

Truth is they won 8 and the run stopped there.

The only way from here they can keep the run going is completing this season

They've won fuck all apart from a league cup .... they stole ..... aided and abetted by the deliberate blindness of officials .... this season so far

Just a small .... but effectively true ... edit to your otherwise undeniable post mate.

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[Dave Hedgehog 10,673]

So the Dutch FA have won in a court of law to declare the season over, no champions, relegations or promotions.

Surely UEFA must take a stand and treat every league that ends the same as every other one. 

If they can’t take charge then what is the point of them?

There has to be a universal fair decision taken or football becomes a farce.

[KingKirk 25,577]

League 2 decided promotion no relegation.

[TheFamousPigeon 9,352]

I wonder how ours will hold up in court then?

[esquire8 42,237]

5 minutes ago, Dave Hedgehog said:

So the Dutch FA have won in a court of law to declare the season over, no champions, relegations or promotions.

Surely UEFA must take a stand and treat every league that ends the same as every other one. 

If they can’t take charge then what is the point of them?

There has to be a universal fair decision taken or football becomes a farce.

UEFA won't. They've had numerous meetings where they could've done something about it but decided to stand back and washed their hands of it. Its upto each nations own FA how they handle it.

[KingKirk 25,577]

Just now, TheFamousPigeon said:

I wonder how ours will hold up in court then?

Like chocolate in the microwave. Hopefully Rangers go with heart's to court

[KingKirk 25,577]

No champions in league 2

[Dave Hedgehog 10,673]

4 minutes ago, esquire8 said:

UEFA won't. They've had numerous meetings where they could've done something about it but decided to stand back and washed their hands of it. Its upto each nations own FA how they handle it.

So UEFA apart from bribes and running money making farcical competitions serve no real purpose 👍

[esquire8 42,237]

Just now, Dave Hedgehog said:

So UEFA apart from bribes and running money making farcical competitions serve no real purpose 👍

Bingo.

[Domthenbud 899]

5 minutes ago, Dave Hedgehog said:

So UEFA apart from bribes and running money making farcical competitions serve no real purpose 👍

Think they might have trained septic.

[bluenoz 30,595]

6 minutes ago, esquire8 said:

UEFA won't. They've had numerous meetings where they could've done something about it but decided to stand back and washed their hands of it. Its upto each nations own FA how they handle it.

I don't think this is true. UEFA is hesitant to do anything, always hoping that leagues can continue and come to conclusion. If and when it reaches a time when it is clear and stark that competitions cannot complete, I have always maintained they will make a blanket decision to all leagues throughout Europe. If that happens the spfl, the resolution, failed EGM will all look embarrassingly stupid.

 UEFA's unpredictability is what has made the spfl hesitant in announcing a tainted champion before now. Nothing else.

[Bobby Hume 12,970]

1 hour ago, Dave Hedgehog said:

So the Dutch FA have won in a court of law to declare the season over, no champions, relegations or promotions.

Surely UEFA must take a stand and treat every league that ends the same as every other one. 

If they can’t take charge then what is the point of them?

There has to be a universal fair decision taken or football becomes a farce.

When we are dealing with a Farce of an organisation ..... that will be difficult mate ..... as to all intents and purposes they have so far presented no real leadership on the matter whatsoever ..... for an International Football body .... they seem to have no idea what to do and should be fucking sued for impersonating an International Football body.

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[esquire8 42,237]

2 minutes ago, bluenoz said:

I don't think this is true. UEFA is hesitant to do anything, always hoping that leagues can continue and come to conclusion. If and when it reaches a time when it is clear and stark that competitions cannot complete, I have always maintained they will make a blanket decision to all leagues throughout Europe. If that happens the spfl, the resolution, failed EGM will all look embarrassingly stupid.

 UEFA's unpredictability is what has made the spfl hesitant in announcing a tainted champion before now. Nothing else.

That's pretty much what I've said. Though I don't think that UEFA will ever make any blanket decision. By that time leagues will already be either called one way or another, or trying to finish BCD. UEFA will not step in and reverse decisions already agreed by individual FAs.

I don't know why the SPFL are being so hesitant in calling the Premiership since the EGM but expect them to call it very shortly.

[bluenoz 30,595]

Bundesliga to resume tomorrow. Time for a wee wager 🙂

[ZZed 4,510]

from 2 days ago

Livingston criticise SPFL decision & confirm inquiry support

 

Livingston say that it is "simply unbelievable" clubs are being relegated and others denied a chance at promotion by the calling of the Scottish leagues.

The Premiership club confirmed they voted in favour of an independent investigation into the circumstances behind the ballot to end the season.

The lower-league campaigns have already been declared, with the top-flight expected to follow suit shortly.

"The impact could hamper teams for many years to come," Livingston said.

Uefa have asked associations to either declare their campaigns or lay out resumption plans by 25 May.

However, Motherwell have said "there are now no credible voices" arguing that the outstanding Premiership games can be completed.

Should the SPFL board opt to call the league, celtic would be crowned and Hearts would be relegated.

However, Livingston say an inquiry into the process to decide that is "paramount to offer a level of transparency" and would be the "first hurdle" to bringing clubs together amid the "trust issues" of recent weeks.

"When finished, and with clarity provided, this would allow us all to get on with the task in hand which is saving our football clubs with collective action," they said.

The West Lothian club, who stand to finish fifth in the Premiership, are also "disappointed" that league reconstruction talks faltered.

They say they supported the SPFL's resolution to declare the season on the understanding that reconfiguring the league was a "distinct possibility".

However, they said the "massive amount of time and energy" invested in looking at plans "didn't receive the respect it so deserved" and was "far too briskly dealt with".

"We had an opportunity collectively to change the landscape of Scottish football, while embracing change and bringing a competitive edge," they said.

"Instead, we have failed to grasp the bigger picture and repair the trust breakdown that has been allowed to manifest for weeks if not longer."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52645443

[esquire8 42,237]

21 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said:

I can't grasp how people think null and void means TV companies demand a refund.

The previous 29/30 gameweeks were still broadcast and Sky etc are certainly not refunding customers for 7 months of subscriptions of games people paid and watched since August.

Null and void is no different than ending the season right now, broadcasters lose the remaining matches not completed, not the 30 games previously.

"Null and void" means that the 30 games played previously never happened officially. I do get what you are saying and it makes sense but legally it's a fucking nightmare for all 42 clubs. Please, its time to get away from that whole scenario. 

[Malvern 11,329]

2 hours ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

Lets not forget the haste to conclude this season's league for reasons known only to the spfl.  Whilst the intention is to extend the completion of the scottish cup even if it takes until 2021. 

Explain that one away.

To give them the Quad Treble, the officials will guarantee it.

[Howsitgoing 4,281]

22 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said:

I can't grasp how people think null and void means TV companies demand a refund.

The previous 29/30 gameweeks were still broadcast and Sky etc are certainly not refunding customers for 7 months of subscriptions of games people paid and watched since August.

Null and void is no different than ending the season right now, broadcasters lose the remaining matches not completed, not the 30 games previously.

The contracts can  be frustrated, this explains it better than I can. 

[esquire8 42,237]

1 minute ago, Rangers_no1 said:

Nobody disputes this, but your TV refund argument is not correct.

Possibly. But the fact no league setup is even contemplating taking the "null and void" route would suggest there is something in that legally. Not like any of this matters really for the Scottish game, ours is already done and dusted.

[Copland bear 7,966]

10 minutes ago, Malvern said:

To give them the Quad Treble, the officials will guarantee it.

Any court action stops them being crowned anything.   The only thing we have agreed to is that the league is finished.  

Never once have we said anything about champions or relegations, and if Doncaster wants to go down that route then he is out of a job as the season might not even start next season and Scottish clubs will not be able to enter Europe.  

Call the SPFL's bluff, rememeber they have that new sky deal they won't want us to fuck it up.

This board told us they knew  who our enemy's where and would strike when the time is right.

  Well this bear could not find a better time than now,  bring the whole fucking thing to a halt and let's see the SPFL's next move. 

[esquire8 42,237]

PPG league call clubs unhappy - 8 - Rangers, Hearts, ICT, Partick, Falkirk, Stranraer, Edinburgh City

Cancelled league call clubs unhappy - 4 - Tarriers, Dundee Utd, Raith, Cove Rangers

Clubs that are happy either way - 30

The difference? Tarriers.