SeparateEntityMyArse 53,620 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bad Robot said: I can’t disagree with the fall guy but I just think the vote issue will stand up to scrutiny and any perceived evidence brushed off as thoughts and intentions without the acts. We know what they are capable of them and the secrets they readily hide. I think the truth of the vote will come out without facts being erased. I do fear that it'll come to nothing though as the panellists could believe a further resolution would then have had the required backing. I'm not agreeing with this, but see it as a possible flawed solution to overcome the vote issue. I think they're a corrupt cabal alright, but one that self preservation will always override their pack mentality. I just dont think they'd trust the others enough to break the law and all keep their silence. I'd say time will tell, but given its bcd we might not even really find out what has gone on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GersInCanada 7,775 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 If the panel sides with Hearts/Thistle then null and void is the only remaining option as the SPFL had no authority from the members to end the season as they did. Of course if they had done the sensible thing and just waited the season could have been completed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canabear 4,558 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 51 minutes ago, GersInCanada said: I spent most of my working life in IT and it is almost impossible to mess with log files. Delete an entry and that deletion is then recorded. All files are typically backed up to a secure location every night. Mess with them and it is going to get recorded. Hearts/Thistle getting full access to all documentation (phone calls, emails, whatsapp, meeting minutes etc etc) is crucial and will be their downfall. If this ends up in a forensic audit , which it should , and is carried out properly with meticulous care , which it should be , then given the time , these things take time , it should see their downfall here. I still believe Rangers have a hand to play here as well and it may well be behind the scenes. Time will tell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisley Blue Loyal 11,133 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, Canabear said: If this ends up in a forensic audit , which it should , and is carried out properly with meticulous care , which it should be , then given the time , these things take time , it should see their downfall here. I still believe Rangers have a hand to play here as well and it may well be behind the scenes. Time will tell. Only problem with that mate if it takes time like you say is that Lord Clark wants this resolved by August 1st. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GersInCanada 7,775 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, Paisley Blue Loyal said: Only problem with that mate if it takes time like you say is that Lord Clark wants this resolved by August 1st. The time scale is a bit tighter. I reckon they will have 3 weeks from Monday to resolve this. Otherwise it's back to court and Lord Clark will finish matters that week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GersInCanada 7,775 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Saw this elsewhere ..... Don Neilcaster has agreed to chair the panel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKnight87 17,281 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 32 minutes ago, GersInCanada said: If the panel sides with Hearts/Thistle then null and void is the only remaining option as the SPFL had no authority from the members to end the season as they did. Of course if they had done the sensible thing and just waited the season could have been completed. A little patience and we could have finished the season on the pitch like other leagues. But it was clear ending the season ASAP and handing out titles was the only option being discussed by the spfl. I'd love a null and void being enforced on them but such is the corruption in this set-up I'd be amazed if it came to pass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amato 3,016 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 25 minutes ago, BlueKnight87 said: A little patience and we could have finished the season on the pitch like other leagues. But it was clear ending the season ASAP and handing out titles was the only option being discussed by the spfl. I'd love a null and void being enforced on them but such is the corruption in this set-up I'd be amazed if it came to pass. It's actually astounding when you think about the way it's all played out and how blatant it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiverpoolBlue 1,395 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 On the face of it, this should be an open and shut case - but if decades of child abuse can be swept upper the carpet with little or no judicial or media interest - just 3 year 'internal investigations' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 15 hours ago, magic8ball said: I’m racking my head on why Smith was removed ,pretty sure it was something trivial as fuck Did he not walk mate ? Or maybe that’s just his appeasing version Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,140 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 hour ago, eejay the dj said: What’s this article 9 ,the Jambos are getting excited about bears ? taking bets on first 2 to respond 😄😄 Not heard a thing, what’s it all about ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsitgoing 4,281 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 hour ago, eejay the dj said: What’s this article 9 ,the Jambos are getting excited about bears ? taking bets on first 2 to respond 😄😄 This is article 9 of SFA rules. 9. CONSTITUTION OF MEMBERS Any change or changes in the constitution or in the rules of a full member or of a recognised football body shall become operative only if it is/they are submitted to the Secretary in writing by electronic communication or by recorded delivery letter and have been approved by the Board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwaysblue 709 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, Howsitgoing said: This is article 9 of SFA rules. 9. CONSTITUTION OF MEMBERS Any change or changes in the constitution or in the rules of a full member or of a recognised football body shall become operative only if it is/they are submitted to the Secretary in writing by electronic communication or by recorded delivery letter and have been approved by the Board. Not too sure what the means. Can someone elaborate for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisley Blue Loyal 11,133 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Just now, Alwaysblue said: Not too sure what the means. Can someone elaborate for me Thank fuck, Thought I was gonna be the first one to ask that 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog 10,673 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Alwaysblue said: Not too sure what the means. Can someone elaborate for me To me it looks like the SPFL had to ask the SFA if they could end the season/make a champion and relegate/promote teams by writing to them and getting it confirmed by the board. They needed SFA permission do do those things. I don’t think they did. It gets more interesting. 👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, Howsitgoing said: This is article 9 of SFA rules. 9. CONSTITUTION OF MEMBERS Any change or changes in the constitution or in the rules of a full member or of a recognised football body shall become operative only if it is/they are submitted to the Secretary in writing by electronic communication or by recorded delivery letter and have been approved by the Board. So does this mean they can change the rules to suit every time they need too .Seems like this is the vagueness that the judge referred too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 30 minutes ago, eejay the dj said: Did he not walk mate ? Or maybe that’s just his appeasing version Resigned,family issues according to a poster last night Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwaysblue 709 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, Dave Hedgehog said: To me it looks like the SPFL had to ask the SFA if they could end the season/make a champion and relegate/promote teams by writing to them and getting it confirmed by the board. They needed SFA permission do do those things. I don’t think they did. It gets more interesting. 👍 Thanks for that. Makes sense when written in English 😀 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Dave Hedgehog said: To me it looks like the SPFL had to ask the SFA if they could end the season/make a champion and relegate/promote teams by writing to them and getting it confirmed by the board. They needed SFA permission do do those things. I don’t think they did. It gets more interesting. 👍 A law unto themselves ,getting away with so much for so long they have become complacent . Maybe they need to higher a lawyer or somebody with a legal background so mistakes like this don’t get made in the future 😛 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbear 10,913 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 minute ago, magic8ball said: A law unto themselves ,getting away with so much for so long they have become complacent . Maybe they need to higher a lawyer or somebody with a legal background so mistakes like this don’t get made in the future 😛 Their one had ketchup on that page that squirted from his double big mac so he missed that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisley Blue Loyal 11,133 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 16 minutes ago, Dave Hedgehog said: To me it looks like the SPFL had to ask the SFA if they could end the season/make a champion and relegate/promote teams by writing to them and getting it confirmed by the board. They needed SFA permission do do those things. I don’t think they did. It gets more interesting. 👍 Just speculating here but wonder if Petrie knew how murky this was going to get and decided to bailout before it all got too stressful for him due to the untold pressure he would almost certainly be put under from The Cabal to cover their arses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 39 minutes ago, LiverpoolBlue said: On the face of it, this should be an open and shut case - but if decades of child abuse can be swept upper the carpet with little or no judicial or media interest - just 3 year 'internal investigations' This 2 year investigation,now 3 has been mentioned a few times in recent weeks in different conversations,No victims have been spoken to ,that’s also been said more than once . What somebody needs to do is step up and say what it actually was ,It was nothing more than a disgusting deflection tactic by that bastard Lieswell ,Remember it was reported to the stock exchange at the time as shareholders are legally entitled to know of any investigation going on that could affect their investment,Nothing happened so there was no investigation,Just a disgusting deflection tactic from a well known liar , Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, pcbear said: Their one had ketchup on that page that squirted from his double big mac so he missed that one. Ps not just the fat lawyer ,Penfold himself is also a lawyer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canabear 4,558 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 16 minutes ago, pcbear said: Their one had ketchup on that page that squirted from his double big mac so he missed that one. Bet he didn't miss his mouth though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robmc1 4,741 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, Canabear said: Bet he didn't miss his mouth though. Going by the recent images of him.... he never does... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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