VanVeenRangers 2,508 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Rangers and celtic would both have 'B' teams in the bottom tier of a 14-14-18 league set-up being proposed by the Ibrox club for next season. Kelty Hearts and Brora Rangers would also be invited into the SPFL to make up an expanded League One, with the "innovation paper" also suggesting Hearts and Partick Thistle avoid their respective relegations. Both Old Firm B sides would immediately pay a £125,000 joining fee, with further payments to be made in each of the following three campaigns. That money would go to third-tier clubs and would reduce by £25,000 each term across a four-year deal, with the entire plan worth a total of £1.2m of "new finance". What else is in the 'innovation paper'? Rangers and celtic B teams can only get promoted as high as the Championship; Their players will have an age limit of 21; The Old Firm will purchase at least 200 tickets at a cost of £15 for each away game, with the money paid in advance; They will also pay £1000 to stream each of those matches, should facilities be in place Other Premiership clubs can apply to have 'B' teams starting in the Highland and Lowland leagues - replacing Kelty and Brora - with a joining fee of £25,000; Alternatively, they could forge strategic partnerships with lower-league outfits that would allow up to six players, plus one coach to be loaned by the Premiership club; Those partnerships would have a minimum three-year commitment and would cease if the lower-league club reaches the top flight. How would the divisions work? Hearts and Inverness Caledonian Thistle would be added to top 12; League would split into a top six and bottom eight after 26 matches; Top six would play home and away (total 36 games) as would the bottom eight (total 40 games); One team would be relegated, and another would face a play-off as currently. Raith Rovers, Falkirk, Airdrie, Montrose, East Fife and Dumbarton would be moved up; League would split into a top six and bottom eight after 26 games; Top six would play home and away (total 36 games) as would the bottom eight (total 40 games); One team would be promoted, plus three more would make play-offs as currently; Bottom two would be relegated, with the 12th-placed team in play-off. Teams would meet twice each season; Top two would be guaranteed promotion, with teams in third, fourth, fifth and sixth in play-offs to decide who would face off with 12th team in Championship; Bottom side will enter play-off with Highland or Lowland League play-off winner as currently; There is scope for second bottom team to also become part of play-offs. Why are Rangers proposing it? The Ibrox club say their objectives are to ensure no club is worse off as a result of the Coronavirus pandemic and to inject "new finance" into the "vulnerable" lower leagues to improve standards. Furthermore, Rangers say they want to achieve the "freshness" that reconstruction would bring while making sure "the pyramid is respected" and keeping each club's share of prize-money distribution the same. Another plank is to tackle the "player transition challenge" with a "menu" of options for different-sized clubs ranging from B teams to the existing loan agreements and reserve league. What happens next? It is unclear how much support exists for the proposals, although it is understood celtic do back them. All Premiership clubs are aware, and will have had the full document presented to them by Rangers by Tuesday. Furthermore, the Scottish FA and SPFL have both been briefed, and other lower-league outfits have been sounded out. There is also thought to be broad support for the strategic partnerships - an idea initially suggested by Stenhousemuir chairman Iain McMenemy. Were the plan to go to a vote, it would need 32 of the 42 clubs to support it. Seventeen of those would have to be in the Premiership and Championship, with 11 of them in the top flight. While Rangers are aiming for this to be introduced next season, they recognise that will be difficult and are prepared to adapt elements once they have consulted more widely. Further stumbling blocks are that, while Stranraer would technically avoid the relegation from League One meted out after the early curtailment of last season, they would still end up in the bottom tier. Clyde, Peterhead and Forfar Athletic would be in a similar situation, while Cove would stay in the bottom tier despite winning League Two last term. Earlier this week, SPFL chief executive Neil Doncaster wrote to clubs asking if they would back a 14-team Premiership for next season and, if not, how might their objections be overcome. That followed Hearts' owner Ann Budge's failed attempt to gain support for a 14-14-14 structure for the next two seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclovin9091 1,388 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Only point i disagree with is the number of away tickets to be purchased. A little more admin required but we should not be obliged to buy any more away tickets than the home team has at thier away games. i.e. Elgins average number of travelling fans for away games the previous season is say 120 we then therefore are only obliged to purchase 120 tickets when we play Elgin. Montrose only have 50 fans on average then we only have to purchase 50 tickets for games the B team play them. Otherwise clubs will get one season of additional revenue then when we are promoted that revenue goes away to the next league up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 107,752 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 If league is extendes should he 18 man. Hate playing cunts four times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,109 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Nah fuck this, we’re effectively offering the SPFL a way out here by not relegating Hearts, let Hearts got down and take the cunts to court Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanVeenRangers 2,508 Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 Just now, Rfc52 said: If league is extendes should he 18 man. Hate playing cunts four times Then usually another twice in cups. Sick of playing killie livi and hamilton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomger 874 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Such a shit league we are stuck in 😭 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 107,752 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 minute ago, MorelosRangers said: Then usually another twice in cups. Sick of playing killie livi and hamilton. I've been to rugby park 7 out of last 8 visits 😂😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,309 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 So not only do we help them out the shite but pay for the privilege Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 107,752 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Just now, ger4life_1872 said: So not only do we help them out the shite but pay for the privilege Think that's standard in Europe mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,109 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Just now, ger4life_1872 said: So not only do we help them out the shite but pay for the privilege Bridge building mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanjo 26,294 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Part of me thinks it’s a good idea, the other says i’d prefer an 18 team league. Truth is though... Sky want 4 derby matches and won’t sanction it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,461 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Like it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,309 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Rfc52 said: Think that's standard in Europe mate Fair enough if it is , I dont see the big advantage we get for 100k , surely it would be cheaper and easier to get a deal with a club where we give them 5 or 6 youngsters on loan each season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure_Quality 3,295 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, Rfc52 said: I've been to rugby park 7 out of last 8 visits 😂😂 And seen too many draws and losses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,109 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Trying to be the nice guys again and help the wee clubs out, where were these cunts when we needed their vote, they’ll be plenty space in the league when their shitty no mark clubs die Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 107,752 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, ger4life_1872 said: Fair enough if it is , I dont see the big advantage we get for 100k , surely it would be cheaper and easier to get a deal with a club where we give them 5 or 6 youngsters on loan each season I think I mind reading about ajax paying to be their as are psvII etc. I may be way off mate but I'm sure it is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiser1041 9,088 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 We aren’t building bridges or trying to help hearts/lower leagues. We have wanted a B team for a long time and time are using this to try achieve what’s best for Rangers it’s big picture thinking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,309 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Agreeing to £15 to for tickets , tickets for hertha berlin are €20-€30 in the Bundesliga and include public transport all day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,309 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Just now, kaiser1041 said: We aren’t building bridges or trying to help hearts/lower leagues. We have wanted a B team for a long time and time are using this to try achieve what’s best for Rangers it’s big picture thinking Honestly what's the big advantage with this over sending players on loan ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Have to be honest I would love a colts team in the league .Yet all the appeasing to get it is difficult to stomach Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,109 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, kaiser1041 said: We aren’t building bridges or trying to help hearts/lower leagues. We have wanted a B team for a long time and time are using this to try achieve what’s best for Rangers it’s big picture thinking They’ll be plenty space in league when clubs start dying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiser1041 9,088 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, ger4life_1872 said: Honestly what's the big advantage with this over sending players on loan ? I’ve genuinely got no idea on the advantage or disadvantages but it’s an idea fully supported by our youth academy and has been wanted for some time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiser1041 9,088 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 minute ago, 6superbarry6 said: They’ll be plenty space in league when clubs start dying Hopefully I’ve got nothing but hatred for any team that’s not Rangers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,309 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 minute ago, kaiser1041 said: I’ve genuinely got no idea on the advantage or disadvantages but it’s an idea fully supported by our youth academy and has been wanted for some time I just dont get it , spend the 100k on the youths and build up a feeder club in the championship Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 107,752 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, ger4life_1872 said: Agreeing to £15 to for tickets , tickets for hertha berlin are €20-€30 in the Bundesliga and include public transport all day Mate went to hamburg for the friendly and kept trying to pay on the bus and the cunt kept saying no its free. I thought he meant 3 euro 😂😂😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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