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People need to remember how weak the Danish league is, we destroyed an average Midtjylland who are running away with the title. That's not to say there's not talented players in the league but how many players in the last 5 or so years have left the Danish league and performed at a higher level? 

Emre Mor was more highly rated and has struggled in stronger leagues since his move.

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3 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said:

People need to remember how weak the Danish league is, we destroyed an average Midtjylland who are running away with the title. That's not to say there's not talented players in the league but how many players in the last 5 or so years have left the Danish league and performed at a higher level? 

Emre Mor was more highly rated and has struggled in stronger leagues since his move.

and Copenhagen beat celtic too - but the standard overall is probably on a par with/better than the SPL.

Odense, Lyngby, Aalborg, Brondby etc would beat most of them most days IMO.

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Not a Transfer rumour, but anyone heard any whispers about investment or new board members? Seen a wee tube on Twitter saying big news coming out tomorrow and a mate who seems to be ITK said he heard something.

Probably a lot of shite.

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11 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said:

Not a Transfer rumour, but anyone heard any whispers about investment or new board members? Seen a wee tube on Twitter saying big news coming out tomorrow and a mate who seems to be ITK said he heard something.

Probably a lot of shite.

Your mate saw a tweet of a guy talking probable shite 

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I love Alfie but I'll be honest if we got offered £20 million then I'd sell him. The pressure on the guy from the racist media and corrupt officials will be ten times worst than previous seasons due to what happened with the SPFL and the scum going for the tainted 10 titles in a row.

Get a striker in, right winger and central midfielder and have some money in the bank for January.

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I hope we don't spend a penny on defense this summer, Bassey solves what was our main issue which was a natural LB when we were short there,  we are stacked for CB's our record in defense in Scotland is perfectly sound and for the most part excellent in Europe. 

Our defenders have been let down far too often by our offensive players, a daft defensive mistake, of which there are actually few, are hardly ever bailed out by our forwards.  If WE were a team who scored more goals the mistakes made in defense would mostly have flowed down the memory river a long time ago. 

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56 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said:

People need to remember how weak the Danish league is, we destroyed an average Midtjylland who are running away with the title. That's not to say there's not talented players in the league but how many players in the last 5 or so years have left the Danish league and performed at a higher level? 

Emre Mor was more highly rated and has struggled in stronger leagues since his move.

Delaney did brilliant when he left and got a move to Dortmund for big money.

Robert Skov regularly starts for Hoffenhiem.

Dolberg had around 1 in 2 record in Ligue 1 before it closed down.

Jensen at Brentford looks a good player any time I’ve seen him although didn’t work out at Celta Vigo year previous.

Wouldn't rule this boy out, certainly got the type of numbers you want from a RW.

 

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15 minutes ago, Dennis Reynolds said:

I hope we don't spend a penny on defense this summer, Bassey solves what was our main issue which was a natural LB when we were short there,  we are stacked for CB's our record in defense in Scotland is perfectly sound and for the most part excellent in Europe. 

Our defenders have been let down far too often by our offensive players, a daft defensive mistake, of which there are actually few, are hardly ever bailed out by our forwards.  If were a team who scored more goals the mistakes made in defense would mostly have flowed down the memory river a long time ago. 

Tarriers at Ibrox

Aberdeen at Pittodrie x2

Hamilton at Ibrox

Hamilton away

St J at McDiarmid Park x2

Killie at Rugby Park

Hearts at Tynecastle x1 league x1 cup

Off top of my head and most if not all were mistakes off the centre halves. 

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21 minutes ago, Smell the hotdog said:

Tarriers at Ibrox

Aberdeen at Pittodrie x2

Hamilton at Ibrox

Hamilton away

St J at McDiarmid Park x2

Killie at Rugby Park

Hearts at Tynecastle x1 league x1 cup

Off top of my head and most if not all were mistakes off the centre halves. 

A couple of those you mention only highlight what it is I am saying, 

Hamilton for instance, Rangers dominated the game, they conceded a cheap goal but ultimately that defeat didn't come out of a defensive failing it came on the back of a failure to take chances. If you remove that defensive error from the game, it still doesn't solve why Rangers didn't win the game, you get a draw at home to Hamilton which is still little use to us. I would apply that same logic  to Aberdeen as well, that game should have been dead and buried long before it came down the defense being under pressure, the failure to make and convert chances was more costly than defensive mistakes. 

Across a season teams will lose goals, that does happen, for instance if you remove those goals you have mentioned you are saying Rangers should have only lost about 10 goals last season, even just writing that doesn't look right, you can't be that perfect in defense . The league table shows that when looking at us and them. The goals we concede aren't entirely of pace for a team looking to win a league, the number of goals we score though is a deeper issue in much more urgent need of repair.  The less chances Rangers convert the more they play with fire and leave it to chance they will drop points on the back of a defensive error, the numbers of which Rangers make aren't entirely out of the ordinary over the course of a season. 

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10 minutes ago, Dennis Reynolds said:

A couple of those you mention only highlight what it is I am saying, 

Hamilton for instance, Rangers dominated the game, they conceded a cheap goal but ultimately that defeat didn't come out of a defensive failing it came on the back of a failure to take chances. If you remove that defensive error from the game, it still doesn't solve why Rangers didn't win the game, you gt a draw at home to Hamilton which is still little use to us. I would apply that same logic  to Aberdeen as well, that game should have been dead and buried long before it came down the defense being under pressure, the failure to make and convert chances was more costly than defensive mistakes. 

Across a season teams will lose goals, that does happen. The league table shows that when looking at us and them. The goals we concede aren't entirely of pace for a team looking to win a league, the number of goals we score though is a deeper issue in much more urgent need of repair.  The less chances Rangers convert the more they play with fire and leave it to chance they will drop points on the back of a defensive error, the numbers of which Rangers make aren't entirely out of the ordinary over the course of a season. 

You're moving the goalposts a little there and taking responsibility away from a defensive failing, just because there was failures elsewhere in the team (upfront)

The fact of the matter is, that Hamilton game, the forwards could have still not done their job but it was the fault of the defence that 1 point turned into 0 points - so what you're saying, it works both ways, but in reverse.

There's faults all over our team (in different degrees and for various reasons) but you are the one making a case for the defence.

Look, the defence in a lot of games look fantastic - even the likes of Tav and Goldson have games where you think wow, how calm, comfortable and collected do we look (even in some big games) but the fact of the matter is that there's always that error in them. Always. That doesn't change. I don't think you can coach that type of thing out of a player like it's a generic weakness that needs worked on (like fitness, pace, heading, marking at set pieces, passing or whatever)

We have made a lot of defensive errors (especially last season). I'd bet if you were willing to take the total amount of goals conceded and input the number of them that were caused by some sort of defensive error and average it out, we would be quite high compared to other teams.

It's something Gerrard has talked about many, many times the defensive errors but where Gerrard let's himself down on it is he see's it, comments on it, is angered by it but guess what? Goldson and Tav are still the first names on the teamsheet and that harps back to what a lot of people keep saying about Gerrard simply not learning from his mistakes. 

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31 minutes ago, Smell the hotdog said:

Delaney did brilliant when he left and got a move to Dortmund for big money.

Robert Skov regularly starts for Hoffenhiem.

Dolberg had around 1 in 2 record in Ligue 1 before it closed down.

Jensen at Brentford looks a good player any time I’ve seen him although didn’t work out at Celta Vigo year previous.

Wouldn't rule this boy out, certainly got the type of numbers you want from a RW.

Dolberg moved at 16/17, he only played 50 minutes in the Danish league. His main development was at Ajax under 19s. 

Delaney spent 10 years at the top club in Copenhagen, had European and International experience. Not comparable with this boy.

In 5 years theres 2 maybe 3 examples, as I said there is talent in the league, has been talent in Scotland, just need to be cautious as the standard in Denmark is not great. 

Would take a punt on both, Kerk permanently and Olsen on loan with a view to buy.

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25 minutes ago, British_Empire said:

You're moving the goalposts a little there and taking responsibility away from a defensive failing, just because there was failures elsewhere in the team (upfront)

The fact of the matter is, that Hamilton game, the forwards could have still not done their job but it was the fault of the defence that 1 point turned into 0 points - so what you're saying, it works both ways, but in reverse.

There's faults all over our team (in different degrees and for various reasons) but you are the one making a case for the defence.

Look, the defence in a lot of games look fantastic - even the likes of Tav and Goldson have games where you think wow, how calm, comfortable and collected do we look (even in some big games) but the fact of the matter is that there's always that error in them. Always. That doesn't change. I don't think you can coach that type of thing out of a player like it's a generic weakness that needs worked on (like fitness, pace, heading, marking at set pieces, passing or whatever)

We have made a lot of defensive errors (especially last season). I'd bet if you were willing to take the total amount of goals conceded and input the number of them that were caused by some sort of defensive error and average it out, we would be quite high compared to other teams.

It's something Gerrard has talked about many, many times the defensive errors but where Gerrard let's himself down on it is he see's it, comments on it, is angered by it but guess what? Goldson and Tav are still the first names on the teamsheet and that harps back to what a lot of people keep saying about Gerrard simply not learning from his mistakes. 

I'm not at all, I can see the responsibility of the defense and to me, they meet that responsibility more often than not. In that specific game,  Hamilton, I don't really care about a point at home against Hamilton, it is verging on redundant to us, just as the point against Aberdeen was which was a pretty comparable display was,  again, meaningless and a game which highlighted where our bigger issues are. 

The data across the season in the league alone shows the defense isn't the issue needing addressed at the moment, let alone talking about Europe. 

Would I, and most take a 3  million pound defender who walked in and never made a mistakes, of course, but at the minute I would rather that 3 million went on a forward who could add another 15 goals to us, it would be surprising how quickly a lot of the defensive issues went away if we added that. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Dennis Reynolds said:

I'm not at all, I can see the responsibility of the defense and to me, they meet that responsibility more often than not. The data across the season in the league alone shows me the defense isn't the issue needing addressed at the moment let alone talking about Europe. 

The money needing spent at the moment should be going towards addressing the number of goals we score, if we scored more goals.... we have the defense to hold their own. 

Our defensive record on the basis of number of goals conceded isn't all that bad.  

I think the way we play and set up, is quite good (in theory) for not losing a lot at the back - but the fact still remains we need an upgrade on a couple at the back if we want to tighten up and stop losing stupid goals. 

Is replacing Tav and Goldson a priority compared to a couple of central midfielders who can take the game by the scruff of the next and contribute to/score goals and/or more options in attack? I'd say no.

But defence and the stupid mistakes is something that needs rectified. 

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1 hour ago, Dennis Reynolds said:

I hope we don't spend a penny on defense this summer, Bassey solves what was our main issue which was a natural LB when we were short there,  we are stacked for CB's our record in defense in Scotland is perfectly sound and for the most part excellent in Europe. 

Our defenders have been let down far too often by our offensive players, a daft defensive mistake, of which there are actually few, are hardly ever bailed out by our forwards.  If WE were a team who scored more goals the mistakes made in defense would mostly have flowed down the memory river a long time ago. 

I’d be tempted to cash in Katic. His play style isn’t suited to Rangers. He’s a good siege defender but we maybe need that 4 or 5 times a season. If someone offers £4m or £5m I’d take it.

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