Bad Robot 21,148 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Howsitgoing said: On the domestic side I've noticed that this link has been removed. http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/ssfa/scottish_football.cfm?page=3812 It did state! "Section 5 of the Children (Scotland) Act 1995 creates a statutory duty to report any suspicions of child abuse i.e. a duty to do what is reasonable in all the circumstances to safeguard the child's health, development and welfare. Failure to report concerns, turning a blind eye or failing to protect a child may result in legal action." You should email the john Watson guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, Straight-Edge-Loyal said: I wonder if it's because they are already having legal action taken against them. that would depend on when it was removed .it could have been moved in anticipation of future cases .which they already KNEW about .it's a can of worms to be opened either way if they knew of future that means they are guilty of breaching the rule as they haven't discloses knowledge of wrong doing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsitgoing 4,281 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 29 minutes ago, Straight-Edge-Loyal said: I wonder if it's because they are already having legal action taken against them. Possibly, what’s certain is that if the paragraph acknowledging the Scottish act was still in their rule book(section 9) then they would find it very hard to not take legal action against that dirty bastards. It wouldn’t surprise me if they have removed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 34 minutes ago, Bad Robot said: You’re right about their obsessive appetitie for our destruction, come the time of their court cases I’m going to try pull a list together if all their sponsers. Would love them out of Europe but think our SFA would need to put them down the leagues for that to happen as I don’t think uefa have the jurisdiction . iv been having a wee think to myself about their sponsors .main ones magners are Irish. fritzel will have an influence here .ROI is corrupt as fuck and he is one of their richest men .if he doesn't have direct influence one of his fellow rich buddies will .dafabet I'm sure has fritzel as a major shareholder too now it doesn't mean that fritzel could pull strings to keep things going but he could instead pull the plugs with his ties to the club .which would be damaging in itself . as for UEFA they might not have jurisdiction but it's their tournaments and would be able to stop clubs participating .they have their own sponsors to look after and dozens of other clubs a lot more important than savco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,686 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 51 minutes ago, magic8ball said: that would depend on when it was removed .it could have been moved in anticipation of future cases .which they already KNEW about .it's a can of worms to be opened either way if they knew of future that means they are guilty of breaching the rule as they haven't discloses knowledge of wrong doing I am just sort of looking for a decent view here rather than the absolute disgrace that it would be if the governing body of Scottish football have taken a rule out that is aimed to protect innocent children from the monsters that celtic football club employed to run their boys club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,148 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 27 minutes ago, Howsitgoing said: Possibly, what’s certain is that if the paragraph acknowledging the Scottish act was still in their rule book(section 9) then they would find it very hard to not take legal action against that dirty bastards. It wouldn’t surprise me if they have removed it. I don’t know if there are any previous rules but that is only for 1995 and beyond Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,148 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 13 minutes ago, magic8ball said: iv been having a wee think to myself about their sponsors .main ones magners are Irish. fritzel will have an influence here .ROI is corrupt as fuck and he is one of their richest men .if he doesn't have direct influence one of his fellow rich buddies will .dafabet I'm sure has fritzel as a major shareholder too now it doesn't mean that fritzel could pull strings to keep things going but he could instead pull the plugs with his ties to the club .which would be damaging in itself . as for UEFA they might not have jurisdiction but it's their tournaments and would be able to stop clubs participating .they have their own sponsors to look after and dozens of other clubs a lot more important than savco A good point about the uefa sponsors ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,148 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 You just wonder about the timing of regans departure and these cases coming up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bad Robot said: You just wonder about the timing of regans departure and these cases coming up heard from a good source he resigned at an sfa board meeting .anybody's guess what the meeting was about. it's probably the manager scenario but could be anything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsitgoing 4,281 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, Bad Robot said: I don’t know if there are any previous rules but that is only for 1995 and beyond There was previous rules and from 1995 till today there is still non-convicted paedophiles because it was decided to not report them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 11 minutes ago, Straight-Edge-Loyal said: I am just sort of looking for a decent view here rather than the absolute disgrace that it would be if the governing body of Scottish football have taken a rule out that is aimed to protect innocent children from the monsters that celtic football club employed to run their boys club. there can be no decent reason to remove a rule that's designed to protect children Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,686 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Just now, magic8ball said: there can be no decent reason to remove a rule that's designed to protect children The current cases are the only thing I can think off would provide a slight reason I am no lawyer by any stretch but I am trying to give the SPFL the benefit of the doubt surely they wouldn't be that corrupt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronniemca 479 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 5 hours ago, magic8ball said: good idea .problem is we don't have the same appetite for destruction they have .for me the best punishment for them,if they were to receive one would be a ban from European football for a few years . this would cause havoc and the most damage with just the one blow loss of revenue ,loss of sponsorship, the squad would need culled and they would find themselves in the state they were in the early 90s .fighting for 4th or 5th ,crowds would dwindle again then the bheast would slowly die The tarriers will never get banned from European football.i was told yesterday that mr liewell has been spending a lot of his time in Geneva recently .He is wheeling and dealing with the top people in the game positioning his clubin the event ofchanges in the structure of European football.loathe the guy but can't deny he is brilliant at his job Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Just now, Straight-Edge-Loyal said: The current cases are the only thing I can think off would provide a slight reason I am no lawyer by any stretch but I am trying to give the SPFL the benefit of the doubt surely they wouldn't be that corrupt. I assume you have tongue firmly planted in cheek .lieswell has strong influence here and he is employed to make money for shareholders at savco .anything is possible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,686 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Just now, magic8ball said: I assume you have tongue firmly planted in cheek .lieswell has strong influence here and he is employed to make money for shareholders at savco .anything is possible But that surely doesn't apply to breaking the law to benefit a club who commited child rape. I wouldn't be shocked if that is exactly why for the record I just hope it isn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VentyFour 690 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Straight-Edge-Loyal said: But that surely doesn't apply to breaking the law to benefit a club who commited child rape. I wouldn't be shocked if that is exactly why for the record I just hope it isn't. They do have previous of breaking the law...AND the raping of children has been hidden for decades, so what makes anybody think they're going to change now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,148 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 16 minutes ago, Straight-Edge-Loyal said: The current cases are the only thing I can think off would provide a slight reason I am no lawyer by any stretch but I am trying to give the SPFL the benefit of the doubt surely they wouldn't be that corrupt. The 1995 quote is from legislation so there would be no issue with it being on or not. It’s probably moved to a different section. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,686 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 13 minutes ago, VentyFour said: They do have previous of breaking the law...AND the raping of children has been hidden for decades, so what makes anybody think they're going to change now. Yes but that was the club not the SFA or SPFL though that broke the law and hid it surely the governing body wouldn't help them get away with the crimes they commited. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricksen92 460 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 I see poor we broon is a marked man because big bad levin has said every player needs protected against him. Shame hope he gets booked every game. fu###n we scrote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VentyFour 690 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Straight-Edge-Loyal said: Yes but that was the club not the SFA or SPFL though that broke the law and hid it surely the governing body wouldn't help them get away with the crimes they commited. I was talking about the Sfa/spfl, they have previous of breaking the law, just look at the 5 way agreement. The child abuse is common knowledge in this country, for something never to be done is a crime and shows a cover up in my eyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,686 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, VentyFour said: I was talking about the Sfa/spfl, they have previous of breaking the law, just look at the 5 way agreement. The child abuse is common knowledge in this country, for something never to be done is a crime and shows a cover up in my eyes. Yeah that is true. If they have any wrong doing in this case they should have the book thrown at them fully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 hour ago, ricksen92 said: I see poor we broon is a marked man because big bad levin has said every player needs protected against him. Shame hope he gets booked every game. fu###n we scrote this will cancel out Leviens comments and normal service will resume .8 fouls before a warning another 2 before yellow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricksen92 460 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 27 minutes ago, magic8ball said: this will cancel out Leviens comments and normal service will resume .8 fouls before a warning another 2 before yellow Then nothing for e few games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1872 20,699 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Only way celtic fc will get sanctioned for 40 years of harbouring paedophiles and abusing children will be if it's an outside organisation investigating them. Most of the media in this country are complicit in the cover up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsitgoing 4,281 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 4 hours ago, Bad Robot said: The 1995 quote is from legislation so there would be no issue with it being on or not. It’s probably moved to a different section. http://scottishschoolsfa.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/SSFAChildWellbeing-Aug2017.pdf It doesn’t appear to be re-applied. The previous quote was a legalisation but the important part was that it recognised that under their own rules that they may pursue legal matters if a team was found guilty of the sick acts. This new legislation removes all responsibility for them to pursue any civil cases for breaking the rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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