californiadreamin52 339 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 What a crock of shit RST self implodes and Murray and the media is somehow to blame. What the fuck are you talking about? Where did I imply that? I believe the inference on your post # 29 to be Perhaps the RST can evolve from this, if they continue to fight mhedia imbalance then I may remain a member. As far as the Murray issue goes, he has won. We will continue to accept his downsizing of our great club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimenez 1 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 What a crock of shit RST self implodes and Murray and the media is somehow to blame. What the fuck are you talking about? Where did I imply that? I believe the inference on your post # 29 to be Perhaps the RST can evolve from this, if they continue to fight mhedia imbalance then I may remain a member. As far as the Murray issue goes, he has won. We will continue to accept his downsizing of our great club. And that insinuates Murray or the mhedia are to blame for the split in the RST how exactly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saudibear 0 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 A couple of years ago I joined the trust liking what I had seen from websites such as this. The more I looked into the work they were doing the more impressed I became so decided to take out a lifetime membership. Lesson learned. Although I would not have resigned my membership immediately, after this my confidence in the RST has been shaken. Living overseas, I will not be able to attend the SGM to make a first hand impression of the way things are going. I will be dependent on these boards and phone calls to friends to see how things pan out. Please keep updating us long distance fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
californiadreamin52 339 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 What a crock of shit RST self implodes and Murray and the media is somehow to blame. What the fuck are you talking about? Where did I imply that? I believe the inference on your post # 29 to be Perhaps the RST can evolve from this, if they continue to fight mhedia imbalance then I may remain a member. As far as the Murray issue goes, he has won. We will continue to accept his downsizing of our great club. And that insinuates Murray or the mhedia are to blame for the split in the RST how exactly? If that`s not the case why mention Murray and the media in the internal affairs of RST unless your trying to deflect or apportion blame for the current debacle that is the RST Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimenez 1 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 If that`s not the case why mention Murray and the media in the internal affairs of RST unless your trying to deflect or apportion blame for the current debacle that is the RST Are you for real? I'm saying that due to the split the aims of the Trust regarding Murray have been damaged. But that I may remain a member if they continue to defend us against the mhedia. How is that not clear? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbr 364 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 anyone back from the trust 's meeting . the position on ff is one of everything's brilliant and the future great , the fact that a group of 8 managed to dirupt the RST to the core seems to have been lost by some Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab 73 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Looks to me like a lot of work by some talented and decent people is going to be thrown away by this 'militant' group. The good work hasn't been thrown away if it has made the RST stronger as a result. I find it interesting tbh that your first few posts are to arguably defend the situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimenez 1 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 anyone back from the trust 's meeting . the position on ff is one of everything's brilliant and the future great , the fact that a group of 8 managed to dirupt the RST to the core seems to have been lost by some If Blue is the colour attended I'm sure he'll give everyone a fairly accurate account of what went on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimenez 1 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Looks to me like a lot of work by some talented and decent people is going to be thrown away by this 'militant' group. The good work hasn't been thrown away if it has made the RST stronger as a result. I find it interesting tbh that your first few posts are to arguably defend the situation. As opposed to some of the new posters that have only come on to slate it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab 73 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Looks to me like a lot of work by some talented and decent people is going to be thrown away by this 'militant' group. The good work hasn't been thrown away if it has made the RST stronger as a result. I find it interesting tbh that your first few posts are to arguably defend the situation. As opposed to some of the new posters that have only come on to slate it? 2 for the price of 1 as my Granny used to say! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 505 Posted July 6, 2008 Author Share Posted July 6, 2008 anyone back from the trust 's meeting . the position on ff is one of everything's brilliant and the future great , the fact that a group of 8 managed to dirupt the RST to the core seems to have been lost by some Of course they'll say everything is fine. 8 new board members were elected at the meeting (most or all of whom will be FF posters) so the Trust can 'move forward' in the controlled manner the coup leaders wanted. Whether or not the rest of the membership who didn't attend (only 42 - including 11 board members, the 8 new elected ones and their proposers/seconders making up the bulk of the attendance) are happy with that direction remains to be seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab 73 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 8 new board members were elected at the meeting (most or all of whom will be FF posters) so the Trust can 'move forward' in the controlled manner the coup leaders wanted. After you saying that, do you see the RST becoming 'FF led' than Rangers fan led? I dare you say were always hesitant to speak ill of FF before this even if those was only a hint. While I'm not saying the the former aren't Rangers, I hope you understand what I mean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 505 Posted July 6, 2008 Author Share Posted July 6, 2008 Frankie, can I ask if you and the other members who have resigned have any ambition to get back involved in supporters groups? It seems to me that one of the biggest losses from all of this would be if the expertise and proven track record of you and your fellow former board members were to be lost to the wider Rangers support? I'm not advocating an immediate return to the RST or a newly formed group but only hoping your passion and ability are not lost. Who knows what the future will hold but at this moment in time I'll personally be taking a break from supporters representation to channel my energies into other projects. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotBear 144 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 8 new board members were elected at the meeting (most or all of whom will be FF posters Not surprising unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TannochsideBear 355 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 I was one of the 42 at the meeting, and can I say how very disappointed I was with the decision of the 7 former board members not to turn up to say their piece. The meeting went along very obvious lines as a result. Frankie, I have since heard that you were keen to go, but as you would have been on your own, you decided not to be a lamb to the slaughter, and I suppose that must have been a hard decision for you and one I have some sympathy with. But the fact remains that we have a statement released from the 7 who resigned, an entirely different story from the remaining board, some of whom were there to answer questions, and the membership as a whole being the losers as without the actual debate of the issues at hand, nothing can be resolved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadaready 9,437 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 So what is the board now? A bunch of friends with control over the RST? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TannochsideBear 355 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 As far as I can tell the board of the RST comprises of 20 rangers supporters with various talents and specialist interests. 14 have been proposed, seconded and voted onto the board by a show of hands at a RST meeting, and 6 of whom have been co-opted onto the board. There were actually 9 members up for election today and only 5 of them turned up! The one who lost out in the voting process was the one member who was proposed by the ex-chairman and seconded by the ex-vice-chairman. He did not get one vote in favour of his application. Of the other 8, they were all either proposed or seconded by a remaining board member and got voted onto the board easily, even the ones who didn't turn up or send in their CV. They were vouched for by their proposers and that was apparantly good enough to get on to the board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paintbox 0 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Looks to me like a lot of work by some talented and decent people is going to be thrown away by this 'militant' group. The good work hasn't been thrown away if it has made the RST stronger as a result. I find it interesting tbh that your first few posts are to arguably defend the situation. Arguably defend? This thread is currently the most interesting one at the top of the board so it grabbed my attention. I'm not defending it or slating it because I think both extremes are pointless. What's happened has happened and instead of moaning about it or taking the "everything's ****ed" approach, I would rather look forward. I don't know if I'll renew my membership yet and I'll wait to see what direction the RST chooses to take before that. Also, I don't believe that FF and the RST can be run by the same people if the RST has any hope of working with David Murray and, in that respect, the new set up worries me. What I won't do, though, is say that it's the end and we should all give up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab 73 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Fair enough, sorry if I irked you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paintbox 0 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Fair enough, sorry if I irked you. Irked me, nah. And I love a good argument anyway! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paintbox 0 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 There were actually 9 members up for election today and only 5 of them turned up! Were there reasons given for only five turning up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab 73 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Fair enough, sorry if I irked you. Irked me, nah. And I love a good argument anyway! You'll fit in well here, then! In a good way though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TannochsideBear 355 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Were there reasons given for only five turning up? A couple were believed to be on holiday, one was hungover from yesterday, and no reason offered for the one they were not wanting to be elected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paintbox 0 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 one was hungover from yesterday I'm reluctant to criticise people that do get up off their backside to help run an organisation or a fans group, but not turning up to an election for that is incredibly poor. The RST could do without that kind of thing after the last few weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab 73 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Were there reasons given for only five turning up? A couple were believed to be on holiday, one was hungover from yesterday, and no reason offered for the one they were not wanting to be elected. Dedication eh? Or just typical Scotland! Or both! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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