Jamie0202 12,220 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Assuming we win the third division (lets not be arrogant because we've won hee haw yet), how many titles will we sing about in the song? It's a question we're going to have to answer because we can't have half the support singing 54 and the other half singing 55.I'll start the voting. I vote for 55 for the reason that the players will have earned it over a full season and it wouldn't sit right with me discrediting a league which welcomed us in with open arms. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 It should be recognised as no matter what league you play in, winning it is an achievement BUT I think in these terms it should remain as 54 top flight titles with an asterix to acknowledge these potential lower league titles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 it would be disrespectful to the players, the manager and the SFL to ignore this title Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EatDolphins 5,355 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 A league title is a league title no matter what league it is. We will have worked hard for it and to deny it's import would be to rubbish the efforts of our team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky_ 893 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 54. its an astonishing world record because its 54 top-flight titles. Let's not dilute it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal Bear 72 363 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I think it should be 54 as in 54 Scottish League Championships. It may be a few years but 55 will be the greatest of all when it comes. Hopefully by then the SPL will be gone and the top tier will be the Premier Division of the SFL minus a couple of those clubs from the North East - who at best will be playing amateur football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottie 1971 6 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Think we should keep it at 54 only reason being its not the top division , imo it would be a red neck to sing 55 and before a get ripped a new erse ,,, cmon tae fuck elgin , annan , east stirling no exactly hard to win a leauge way that mince in it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Think we should keep it at 54 only reason being its not the top division , imo it would be a red neck to sing 55 and before a get ripped a new erse ,,, cmon tae fuck elgin , annan , east stirling no exactly hard to win a leauge way that mince in itAlthough I agree it should remain as 54....this kind of disrespectful attitude is all wrong...you can only beat what's in front of you and for some if these guys it may be the first professional trophy they have won. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 i dont understand why people think we should simply forget the lower league titles. im not embarrassed about where we are, i will be proud when we win the 3rd division title. everyone can sing '54 titles and 3 SFL titles' if they want, i will be singing 57the people saying we shouldn't recognise these titles will also probably say that they will follow Rangers everywhere. so why don't you want to remember these successes? are we that 'big' that we only celebrate top flight titles? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal Bear 72 363 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 i dont understand why people think we should simply forget the lower league titles. im not embarrassed about where we are, i will be proud when we win the 3rd division title. everyone can sing '54 titles and 3 SFL titles' if they want, i will be singing 57Definitely not forgotten. They will take their place on our honours list along with all the other trophies. However, our world record is due to our 54 Scottish League Championships, which is champions of Scotland and therefore top-tier. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montana100 335 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 If we win any league we play in. Then in my book it counts ad a title. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tam watp 77 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 We can debate this all day but it depends on what rangers say if its 54 or 55 everyone will follow Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalfollower 1,543 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Should remain as 54 titles still going strong. No dis respect to sfl 3 but winning that doesnt make it a title, we'll be 3rd division winners not Scotland's champions. Having said all that everyone's entitled to sing what they wish Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM1872 3,706 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 It's a tricky one. The song is based on the record 54 top flight titles, and it is an official World Record. I don't know if we could honestly sing 55. Some will, and their entitled to but I think officially it would need to be recognised as "55 titles" for the song to be changed.Winning the third division doesn't really count as being Champions of Scotland. Don't get me wrong, it will be a magnificent achievement for many of these younger guys, and McCoist to have guided them to it. For many of the senior players though it will merely be one step forward in the long journey and as much as they'll enjoy it their focus will firmly be on getting back to the top flight and collecting Scottish Title number 55 for themselves and the Club.1 SFL title, we'll still carry on . And on the topic of SFL competitions, next year we MUST collect the Challenge Cup. Looking back it's ridiculous we didn't reach the final this year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 If you can not celebrate winning any title, you should follow another sport. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky_ 893 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 If you can not celebrate winning any title, you should follow another sport.ofcourse we'll celebrate but this isn't a "title" in the context of the song.in the context fo the song is how many times we have been champions of this country.if it was just "titles" then i think 115 would be more apt as thats how many major honours (leagues, cups, leagues cups + european cups) we have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Fifty Five i don't see why titles rent counted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Its a tricky one, in a way winning SFL3 will be a big moment after everything we've come through this year and should be reconsised but of course its not as big as winning top league, you can only beat whats put in front of you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKGER 138 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I'd be sooo embarrassed if we sang 55 titles Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKGER 138 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 United fans don't gloat about winning 21 titles despite winning the championship (equivalent ) twice, they celebrate 19. We'd be a laughing stock if we claimed 55 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 i dont understand why people think we should simply forget the lower league titles. im not embarrassed about where we are, i will be proud when we win the 3rd division title. everyone can sing '54 titles and 3 SFL titles' if they want, i will be singing 57the people saying we shouldn't recognise these titles will also probably say that they will follow Rangers everywhere. so why don't you want to remember these successes? are we that 'big' that we only celebrate top flight titles?No one is saying we aren't going to recognise them. I will be very proud to add these to the collection. This is the only chane we will ever get to win these trophies, and once we have, we'll be the only team in scotland to win every division. Hopefully get a challenge cup along the way to complete the full set. But these are just divisions, they aren't league titles, so we cant add them to the 54. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 A league title is a league title no matter what league it is. We will have worked hard for it and to deny it's import would be to rubbish the efforts of our team.No one will deny these are important. See my post above this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-RFC 308 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I'd be embarrassed to hear that.Lower league titles aren't an achievement for this club, merely a necessity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazbo84 698 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 54. its an astonishing world record because its 54 top-flight titles. Let's not dilute it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernLights 2,526 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 54. It's top-flight titles and, while I'd consider Division 1 due to the fact that we've said we're not going back to the SPL, I think counting Division 3 is a bit silly, despite how great it will feel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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